E3 2015 | Nintendo Digital Event
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joshmitchell
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Paper mario anyone??
why on earth would they taint the sacred paper mario by putting him in a mario & luigi alphadream game?????
I like the mario & luigi games, but paper mario does not fit in and seems incredibly lazy. Paper jam looks exactly like dream team.
why on earth would they taint the sacred paper mario by putting him in a mario & luigi alphadream game?????
I like the mario & luigi games, but paper mario does not fit in and seems incredibly lazy. Paper jam looks exactly like dream team.
Pokemaniac
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I think it's safe to say that Nintendo's moved on to next gen internally, with Reggie basically admitting on screen that all the cool announcements are coming next year.
I think their showing was pretty underwhelming overall, but I'll probably end up enjoying a bunch of the games shown. Metroid Prime Federation Force in particular is giving me flashbacks to my reaction to Tropical Freeze, where I had a really negative kneejerk reaction to the announcement, but quickly came around to it after I had some time to think.
Nintendo really shouldn't have spread out their announcements so much, though. If stuff like Nindies@Home, Earthbound Beginnings, the Smash DLC, and even the eShop sales had actually been in the Digital Event, it likely would have been received better.
I think their showing was pretty underwhelming overall, but I'll probably end up enjoying a bunch of the games shown. Metroid Prime Federation Force in particular is giving me flashbacks to my reaction to Tropical Freeze, where I had a really negative kneejerk reaction to the announcement, but quickly came around to it after I had some time to think.
Nintendo really shouldn't have spread out their announcements so much, though. If stuff like Nindies@Home, Earthbound Beginnings, the Smash DLC, and even the eShop sales had actually been in the Digital Event, it likely would have been received better.
They are actually made by the Jim Henson company as two of the non Nintendo puppets were from a TV show in the UK made by the same company called 'That Puppet Game Show'
Extremely well done!
I came home from work today, ate a piece of my bang bar, and am watching the Nintendo Digital Event/going through this thread.
This shit is hilariously bad while super stoned. I can't imagine what most of not high gaf was thinking (and I'm just at the Star Fox puppets).
email this directly to @trintran
I could avatar quote you to convey my reaction but honestly the Star Fox puppets were the peak. It was a downhill mudslide in to a latrine full of liquid shit after that.
Empyrean Heaven
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AcademicSaucer
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The Star Fox puppets were honestly the best part. You're going to be laughing and crying at some of the later shit.
PhilipDoesMatter
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They missed Super Mario Galaxy 3 for WiiU. If it had it, the conference would be the best of all.
megabytecr
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Yeah that was disappointing but looking back I think it was also because of the pacing and including developer sections.
Now about that Metroid game, I think the hate comes from having no Retro Studios info on new game (Metroid, DKC or whatever). I am not including this as a negative.
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Yoshi, Mario Maker, Xenoblade and Starfox Zero are solid releases IMO
3DS has a lot going (Hyrule Warriors, New Zelda, New FE, New Mario RPG)
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Too much 3DS and no Wii U love.
They added a lot of Developer sections (leave that for later)
They should have added more for Wii U (indie reel, Fatal Frame and Devil's Third)
Xenoblade X date is disappointing
In the Direct Starfox looked bad graphically (looking at the treehouse footage in 60fps the game does look a lot better)
Just one surprise, Mario Tennis Ultra Smash (unfortunately does nothing for me)
No info on Zelda Wii U was a mistake
I agree with you, save everything for the direct, specially if you have so little, and avoid the Dev segments in the direct, show them later, like last year.
Some small changes and this would have been a 6 or 7 out of 10, and not 4/10.
Now about that Metroid game, I think the hate comes from having no Retro Studios info on new game (Metroid, DKC or whatever). I am not including this as a negative.
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Yoshi, Mario Maker, Xenoblade and Starfox Zero are solid releases IMO
3DS has a lot going (Hyrule Warriors, New Zelda, New FE, New Mario RPG)
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Too much 3DS and no Wii U love.
They added a lot of Developer sections (leave that for later)
They should have added more for Wii U (indie reel, Fatal Frame and Devil's Third)
Xenoblade X date is disappointing
In the Direct Starfox looked bad graphically (looking at the treehouse footage in 60fps the game does look a lot better)
Just one surprise, Mario Tennis Ultra Smash (unfortunately does nothing for me)
No info on Zelda Wii U was a mistake
I agree with you, save everything for the direct, specially if you have so little, and avoid the Dev segments in the direct, show them later, like last year.
Some small changes and this would have been a 6 or 7 out of 10, and not 4/10.
SatoAilDarko
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I'm really curious what the mood is going to be at the Best Buy Mario Maker demo tommorow? I wonder if people will say anything to the the Nintendo rep there? I'm just going to politely ask if he's heard anything about Devil's Third.
Also what happened to the seven button offer they had for preordering two select Nintendo games? It was there Saturday but has disappeared. The Canadian page says to check back tommorow for the list.
I was really hoping for Devil's Third having a release. I was going to order that and Xenoblade Chronicles X. Now I'll probably substitute Animal Crossing. Ironic for multiple reasons.
What can I say. It looks pretty neat.
Also what happened to the seven button offer they had for preordering two select Nintendo games? It was there Saturday but has disappeared. The Canadian page says to check back tommorow for the list.
I was really hoping for Devil's Third having a release. I was going to order that and Xenoblade Chronicles X. Now I'll probably substitute Animal Crossing. Ironic for multiple reasons.
What can I say. It looks pretty neat.
Feel_The_Pain
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Gold.
Poimandres
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On the Sony conference:
On the Nintendo direct:
Now, I understand that's your opinon and totally valid... but are you really surprised most people don't agree with your assessment here? If both of those conferences were "solid 7/10" for you, then you're simply out of touch with most people. Which is fine. I like plenty of things that a lot of people hate.
On the Nintendo direct:
Now, I understand that's your opinon and totally valid... but are you really surprised most people don't agree with your assessment here? If both of those conferences were "solid 7/10" for you, then you're simply out of touch with most people. Which is fine. I like plenty of things that a lot of people hate.
ProtomanNeo
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I just got in the house, does anyone know if what Retro is working on is there in any capacity?
SaintMadeOfPlaster
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...Did you not see the Fire Emblem/SMT crossover game? It's so otaku it's painful.
Trojita
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Fantastic
This is great
Labrynian Rebel
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That Smash Direct, Roy & Ryu, Mother 1 announcement, Itoi's heart to heart message, Nintendo World Championships, and making Super Mario Maker turn from a "meh" game to a "must buy" in one sitting... that all made me happy and proud to be a Nintendo fan.
...I'm going to pretend that day was Nintendo's E3 showings and that this day didn't happen.
If Zelda U gets pushed to the NX... Nintendo you do NOT release a console without a main Zelda title, you don't do that. All well the Wii U has a great line-up of games, especially once Mario Maker and Xenoblade X join it. Sad Nintendo seems to really be dropping the support.
...I'm going to pretend that day was Nintendo's E3 showings and that this day didn't happen.
If Zelda U gets pushed to the NX... Nintendo you do NOT release a console without a main Zelda title, you don't do that. All well the Wii U has a great line-up of games, especially once Mario Maker and Xenoblade X join it. Sad Nintendo seems to really be dropping the support.
AcademicSaucer
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Choppasmith
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This was the best thing about the digital event.
So funny lol.
Yeah. I love the delayed reaction from Iwata!
Speaking of which, I was curious about the segment. I thought I recognized Bill Baretta's voice, but I thought maybe they're not actual Henson puppets but rather a decent facsimile like Crank Yankers or Avenue Q or something.
Did a Google search, apparently it a WAS by the Jim Henson company and directed by Brian Henson
http://www.toughpigs.com/henson-nintendo/
Not sure if worth a new thread but I thought it was worth posting.
FullmetalPain
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This was probably the worst conference ever honestly :/
TanookiTom
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I think people are focusing way to much on Nintendo having delivered a bad conference. What its far more important (and worries me far more tbh) is the fact that the outlook for the WiiU suddenly looks much, much worse.
I don't even mean sales wise, because I think it was already clear by now that nothing is gonna change significantly in that regard since most of the blockbusters have been out.
But I just can't remember a time or system where there was so little to
look forward to, and thats just in the systems third year...
It was obvious that the WiiU is not gonna have a very long life span, but I at least expected something after the 3rd year of the system. Now all we have left are some B-tier games for early 2016 and Zelda WiiU, which I am more and more convinced is gonna get the TP treatment or skip the system entirely (maybe also because of technical issues?).
And even while the 3DS is getting a lot more announcements than I had been expecting (seems like Nintendo is really trying to stretch its lifespan - but looking at the sales numbers, largely in vain?) I think they're just overdoing it with milking franchises this generation. The 3DS will have had FIVE games from the Zelda universe: OOT 3D, LBTW, MM3D, HW3D and now the Tri Force Heroes. Plus the third Paper Mario for the system. Did anybody really ask for this? And then the Metroid game which looks like it shouldn't even remotely carry that name...
Iwata tweeting about taking the reaction serious seems off too. How could they not have anticipated these reactions from fans?
I don't even mean sales wise, because I think it was already clear by now that nothing is gonna change significantly in that regard since most of the blockbusters have been out.
But I just can't remember a time or system where there was so little to
nothing to
It was obvious that the WiiU is not gonna have a very long life span, but I at least expected something after the 3rd year of the system. Now all we have left are some B-tier games for early 2016 and Zelda WiiU, which I am more and more convinced is gonna get the TP treatment or skip the system entirely (maybe also because of technical issues?).
And even while the 3DS is getting a lot more announcements than I had been expecting (seems like Nintendo is really trying to stretch its lifespan - but looking at the sales numbers, largely in vain?) I think they're just overdoing it with milking franchises this generation. The 3DS will have had FIVE games from the Zelda universe: OOT 3D, LBTW, MM3D, HW3D and now the Tri Force Heroes. Plus the third Paper Mario for the system. Did anybody really ask for this? And then the Metroid game which looks like it shouldn't even remotely carry that name...
Iwata tweeting about taking the reaction serious seems off too. How could they not have anticipated these reactions from fans?
Gaiaknight
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Damn, that's a disappointment
well they did say in advance that zelda wii u wouldnt be at e3 months ago.
Mockingbird
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My thoughts:
LOVED the opening with the puppets and how they were transforming into Star Fox characters. Then Star Fox 0 was shown and though the graphics are whatever, the gameplay looks good and I'm really happy they are back with the original cast! None of that post Dinosaur Planet bs that started the downward spiral of the series.
Everything from there was downhill.
Only good points after that was a solid Xenoblade Chronicles X trailer and release date (though too far away), Mario Tennis was a nice surprise, new Mario RPG title is a nice surprise, and that's it.
Hyrule Warriors would've been a good surprise if it didn't leak before-hand and while Shin Megami x Fire Emblem looks good graphically, the premise is just way out there in deep otaku land.
LOVED the opening with the puppets and how they were transforming into Star Fox characters. Then Star Fox 0 was shown and though the graphics are whatever, the gameplay looks good and I'm really happy they are back with the original cast! None of that post Dinosaur Planet bs that started the downward spiral of the series.
Everything from there was downhill.
Only good points after that was a solid Xenoblade Chronicles X trailer and release date (though too far away), Mario Tennis was a nice surprise, new Mario RPG title is a nice surprise, and that's it.
Hyrule Warriors would've been a good surprise if it didn't leak before-hand and while Shin Megami x Fire Emblem looks good graphically, the premise is just way out there in deep otaku land.
Puppets were great but really, developers having fun doesn't work so well when the rest of the event is devoid of any interesting content.
Great post, spot on. This event was badly received because of miscommunication, bad scheduling and pacing of both the video and reveals. If they crammed everything they revealed in June thus far it would have been much better, not really mind-blowing, but still pretty competent.
Great post, spot on. This event was badly received because of miscommunication, bad scheduling and pacing of both the video and reveals. If they crammed everything they revealed in June thus far it would have been much better, not really mind-blowing, but still pretty competent.
Chezzymann
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Even after this conference I'm still excited for the Wii U's future. Some good looking games coming out this year: Yoshi's Wooly World, Super Mario Maker, and Star Fox. Not really interested in Mario tennis though unless it has online.
Also, we have to remember Nintendo could just announce some new Wii U games next month in a direct. They've done that before.
Also, we have to remember Nintendo could just announce some new Wii U games next month in a direct. They've done that before.
Last year's was great.
doniewhalberg
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Well, I have to say, I thought E3 was pretty incredible this year, and honestly I feel Nintendo did a nice job contributing to that awesome themselves. Sure it didn't have a megaton, and it was without Zelda Wii U, or the predicted Metroid or Animal Crossing entries people expected, but focusing on what was there and not what wasn't, I really want to play some of those games. 3DS having such a presence was a real suprise for me, but not a bad one: Triforce heroes, Happy Home Designer and Pokemon Super Mystery Dungeon will keep my household's' 3DS' in use this Fall, and I can't wait to ghet my hands on Federation Force. Not traditional Metroid of course but what it is looks great.
Star Fox, Mario Maker, Xenoblade & Amiibo Festival will give us plenty to play on Wii U as well. Bowser & DK will have me and my kid playing Skylanders through together this year too, I kind of thought Skylanders would be replaced by Lgo Dimensions in the house this year but I guess it's both. Nintendo honestly managed to make me excited for the fall and early next year without showing any more of their cards for beyond that. Between me, my partner and my boy, there is plenty coming for us all, on all formats, Nintendo and all the others. Good time to be a gamer.
Star Fox, Mario Maker, Xenoblade & Amiibo Festival will give us plenty to play on Wii U as well. Bowser & DK will have me and my kid playing Skylanders through together this year too, I kind of thought Skylanders would be replaced by Lgo Dimensions in the house this year but I guess it's both. Nintendo honestly managed to make me excited for the fall and early next year without showing any more of their cards for beyond that. Between me, my partner and my boy, there is plenty coming for us all, on all formats, Nintendo and all the others. Good time to be a gamer.
Messofanego
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lol this post is now in the news XD
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/iwata-apologises-to-raging-fans-over-poor-e3-showcase/0151373
MarkMclovin
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Thats one of the most saddest quotes ever, Christ on a bike.
March of the Crabs
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This whole thread is just making me cringe. So much whiny entitlement. Huge bummer to read.
Northeastmonk
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They take their franchises and they make these announcements that would make any Nintendo fan mad. You could talk to a person about availability without them having any prior knowledge and they would get upset. I don't know if they should start thinking about firing someone, but the defense for their games is becoming a nightmare. They have 1 or 2 teams working on a game we all want and that's it.
Their defense is coming from this dream that no one outside their circle really seems to enjoy. I played SNES as a kid and I remember why I liked them so much and this is not it.
I think it's just because they're Nintendo that people honestly like what they're doing. The Treehouse and everything. I just think its not going the way it could possibly go. Maybe 1 or 2 franchises are, but it's just not why I liked them. They release games like their marketing team from the 90's made decisions.
I feel bad that everyone bought Amiibos instead of actual video games and it's just nothing I'm proud of. I'm not super excited, but I'll buy Zelda next year. There's a sale there.
Maybe someone does need to get let go from the company or step down. It happens far too often.
The video game championship benefits people who are there. It's a bad omen for some IMO.
Their defense is coming from this dream that no one outside their circle really seems to enjoy. I played SNES as a kid and I remember why I liked them so much and this is not it.
I think it's just because they're Nintendo that people honestly like what they're doing. The Treehouse and everything. I just think its not going the way it could possibly go. Maybe 1 or 2 franchises are, but it's just not why I liked them. They release games like their marketing team from the 90's made decisions.
I feel bad that everyone bought Amiibos instead of actual video games and it's just nothing I'm proud of. I'm not super excited, but I'll buy Zelda next year. There's a sale there.
Maybe someone does need to get let go from the company or step down. It happens far too often.
The video game championship benefits people who are there. It's a bad omen for some IMO.
That news title should really have read 'company reel exposes viewers with emotional issues'
Empyrean Heaven
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http://www.destructoid.com/nintendo...y-unreasonably-high-expectations-294255.phtml
I'm just going to leave this here.
I'm just going to leave this here.
No, Nintendo lost E3 because it failed to exceed any expectations.
I am completely surprised he/she had those high expectations. It was exceedingly unlikely that a Metroid game would be revealed for Wii U. If one was, it would be a 3DS title. Nintendo have shifted resources (which was evident before yesterday) to NX (console or handheld, semantics aside, I call it both).
This is not to say the conference was weak. Although it had a good humorous representation with the puppets, it had poor pacing with too much time spent on Yoshi Wooly World (a game releasing in 2 weeks for Europe and Japan), Skylanders (irrelevant PR interviews), a Super Mario montage video, and a weak selection of titles ( as expected from before E3 if you looked at Nintendo's developer's and the IGN/Gamespot schedule).
Perhaps because I had such low expectations knowing this information, only heightened slightly from the NWC on Sunday, I was not as disappointed. But this is not to say it was weak. It was.
I do agree with the author about the odd treatment of Metroid, against the wishes of what fans have been asking for ( amore traditional 2D Metroid), and odd treatment of Animal Crossing U. The latter, by speculation, was probably cut down from development of a traditional Animal Crossing but then were moved to NX as well. I have to read a bit more about the Metroid game.
Empyrean Heaven
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Oh haha. I need to read more carefully next time. Still, some of my points stand.
Chezzymann
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This image shows how despite the Wii U having a lowsy appearance at this conference it still has a somewhat decent lineup for the rest of the year. Its definitely not "dead" in terms of software yet.
Juke Joint Jezebel
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This image shows how despite the Wii U having a lowsy appearance at this conference it still has a somewhat decent lineup for the rest of the year. Its definitely not "dead" in terms of software yet.
Yoshi's Wooly World, Starfox Zero, Mario Tennis, Super Mario Maker, Project Zero, & Xenoblade Chronicles X. Good amount of games I want to buy! More than XB1 and PS4 this year so far.
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