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EA officially likes all other handhelds better than PSP
- Thread starter kaching
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Doom_Bringer
Banned
fuck EA and their shitty ports
This is also a good time to take notice of my dashing new tag that will henceforth prevent me from ever participating in an objective conversation here again.
kaching: Halo 2 is an incredible game
GAFfer: Whatever, Sony spinboy. You ain't tricking me that easily. Halo 2 sucks!
kaching: Halo 2 is an incredible game
GAFfer: Whatever, Sony spinboy. You ain't tricking me that easily. Halo 2 sucks!
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Zodiac? No chance that will look better than DS. Zodiac has some crappy 2D graphics chip and uses software rendering. DS is better than that.
Yours is at least slightly funny. Mine is just... there.
TekunoRobby
Tag of Excellence
Though you hate me I still and will always treat your opinion respectfully. Don't sweat it, you have it better off than the poor sods who have "complete idiot" and other nonsense.kaching said:
Edit: Nevermind
TekunoRobby
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MIYAMOTO HATES ME AND ONLY ME.
Remember that guys, when the time comes and someone has to kill the man the duty falls squarly on my shoulders. It's a sad fate but I do it for great justice.
Remember that guys, when the time comes and someone has to kill the man the duty falls squarly on my shoulders. It's a sad fate but I do it for great justice.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Zodiac has kinda wide screen (wider than 4:3), but I don't think it's 16:9
Zodiac is certainly a nicely designed piece of kit, IMO. Slim, feels very sturdy and solid, and the controls are well placed. Here's to hoping that developers just discovering the potential of touchscreen gaming thanks to DS will throw it a bone or two since they're a close match in most respects
JoshuaJSlone
Member
If it's 480x320 then it's 3:2, same as GBA.Marconelly said:
Zodiac has kinda wide screen (wider than 4:3), but I don't think it's 16:9
4:3 = 1.33:1
3:2 = 1.5:1
16:9 = 1.78:1
Kobun Heat
Member
Wider than a Palm.
Kobun Heat
Member
Oh. Well, in any case, this new version is optimized for the Zodiac, and that's one of the ways. Pretty cut and dry.kaching said:
Shogmaster
Member
Mrbob said:
No way it will look better than the DS version, IMO. Software 3D in Tapwave has been very HIDEO thus far. Not going to compete with even the DS Madden, which surprisingly looked good to me.
Expect even blockier players and slower frame rate if done in 3D. Fairly high chance of it being 2D.
Alex Anderson
Member
Yay for half-assed sports games on what is essentially the Shockwave Portable.
Shogmaster
Member
Alex Anderson said:
Shockwave? What the hell are you jibber jabbering about?
Alex Anderson
Member
Games on these crappy handhelds like Zodiac and N-Gage remind me of Shockwave-quality games I can play for free on the internet. With their ugly, quasi-3D visuals and 4 FPS framerates. Also, the man-hours spent developing the games are probably about the same.
Shogmaster
Member
Oh. I can go along with that. 
The Tapwave version probably will have like a 3~4 man team making it, and will be 2D. that's why it's no big deal for EA to do a Tapwave version, while they fucking acted like little bitches about possiblity of doing a DC version, siting BS like "we would have supported DC if it had 3DFX in it".
The Tapwave version probably will have like a 3~4 man team making it, and will be 2D. that's why it's no big deal for EA to do a Tapwave version, while they fucking acted like little bitches about possiblity of doing a DC version, siting BS like "we would have supported DC if it had 3DFX in it".
Shogmaster
Member
Agent X said:
Dude, I can understand your sentiment, but I really don't think any of the Tapwave games (including the two you've mentioned) has better 3D than PSX and N64. Granted, I didn't play either games in extended sessions, but the little I was exposed to wasn't bettering either systems.
Alex Anderson
Member
Nope, I haven't. I shouldn't have made a blanket statement like that (grouping it with N-Gage) without researching the Zodiac. I looked at some screens of games, and some of them look pretty nice. Thanks for setting me straight.
Project Midway
Member
wtf? N-Gage is probably on the same level with DS (or very close atleast) in 3d performance. Check out Ghost Recon or Asphalt GT on N-Gage if you dont believe me.
The DS blows away the N-Gage as far as 3D graphics are concerned. The DS has a real, built-in 3D graphics set that -- as crappy as it is -- does accomplish some things in hardware.
That's not really saying much, though. It's sort of like comparing a good shit to a bad shit. If you want 3D portable games that actually don't look like total poo, you'll need a PSP.
That's not really saying much, though. It's sort of like comparing a good shit to a bad shit. If you want 3D portable games that actually don't look like total poo, you'll need a PSP.
TekunoRobby
Tag of Excellence
You guys are so spoiled.
Project Midway
Member
True, N-gage doesnt have dedicated GPU but its 104Mhz CPU evens out the situation quite alot.snapty00 said:
Shogmaster
Member
Project Midway said:
Fuck no. The 104Mhz ARM9 positively struggles for passable 3D.
The GP32's ARM9 CPU, which is known to be clocked to 133Mhz stably don't really cut it either, and even a 200Mhz ARM9 CPU in the Zodiac pails to the DS as well in doing 3D.
Bottom line, you have to clock really high (Pentium 3 speeds) to pull off "decent" 3D rendering in software.
Project Midway
Member
Well, I guess its debatable whats passable. Ghost Recon on N-Gage looks good with consistent framerate at maybe around 20fps. Sure its not 60fps but its smooth enough for me to be able to enjoy the game on that tiny screen.Shogmaster said:
Good coders can do "wonders" with 104Mhz CPU.
Shogmaster
Member
Project Midway said:
I went to IGN and searched out GR for nGage. Color me impressed! It's definitely passable. However, I never said nGage is not capable of passable 3D. I said nGage's CPU "struggles" for passable 3D, and if GR's engine is doing 15~20FPS, that's struggling in my book.
Project Midway
Member
heh yeah, its struggling sure if we think that way.Shogmaster said:
But its still playable and looks good enough, not to mention it has 8-player wireless death match mode. Colin McRae 2005, Tony Hawk and Asphalt GT are other 3D games on N-gage with "good" 3D.Shogmaster
Member
Project Midway said:heh yeah, its struggling sure if we think that way.
You should have quit while you're ahead.
CM and AGT are screen shots only, and Tony Hawk looks like shit. Project Midway
Member
heh. Gimme a sec, I try to find some movies and post them here. =)Shogmaster said:You should have quit while you're ahead.
edit: CMR2005 video
Shogmaster
Member
Project Midway said:
I guess CM is approaching passable. Sub Sega Rally for Saturn tho, smaller res and all. And the frame rate looks pretty low. Playable? Sure. Passable. Yeah. Struggling? Definitely.