Early reactions to Alien: Covenant are in
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TheJollyCorner
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Ridley Scott. The director.
Good shit
wesleyshark
Banned
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...michael-fassbender-david-walter-a7720371.html
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertai...nant-not-faint-heart-review-article-1.3142709
I'm definitely going to enjoy this film.
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertai...nant-not-faint-heart-review-article-1.3142709
I'm definitely going to enjoy this film.
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
Sweet, still excite.
Yeah, guessing it's going to be dark and tense as fuck, but the story is going to have issues. I'm fine with that.
It doesn't solve the issue of Alien 3 being a mind-numbing bore.
Lights and Waves
Member
I can't wait for this! Grace's review sounded great.
wesleyshark
Banned
It's an excruciating wait. I'm playing Alien Isolation right now to soothe my patience lol.
Robot Pants
Member
Sorry but I refuse to believe this movie will be any good.
Allonym
There should be more tampons in gaming
Yea that dailynews quote is exactly what I wanted from the film, something that marries Alien and Aliens and explains concepts and story threads from those and Prometheus. Even if I feel like the answers aren't satisfactory at least I'll have them.
Critics not lining up with my already made up viewpoint is what you should have wrote but thanks for telling internet
Bobby Roberts
Banned
It could be. I hope it is. I'll find out Wednesday.
The consensus I'm getting from these reviews (and review excerpts) is that it's not as stupid as Prometheus, and has much less on its mind than that movie did, and so the simplification of the story pays off in its improved execution. Plus there's new monsters and they kill people real good.
This seems to be what most reviews, good or bad, have in common.
Also, as the board's resident Alien 3 apologist: The Special Edition does improve the film, and make it more coherent and a little better paced. It doesn't "fix" the film because what broke the film isn't a thing you can fix by throwing more footage at it.
Now, the fact that the film being broken from frame one and never getting a real shot to fix itself, just ending in death - the fact that thematically fits with the story Fincher is trying to bring to life is pretty cool. But it was never intended. And it doesn't work to the film's benefit, overall.
Alien 3's extended cut improves the movie. But it never makes the movie good. It's still just okay at best.
But it does provide Ripley a resonant sendoff, it gives Charles Dance a good character to sink his teeth into, it lets Roc get big and dirty, and Elliot Goldenthal's score is one of the best in that decade.
That's something.
But it's not better than Aliens.
DoctorFling
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The tempered response is a breath of fresh air honestly. I'm looking forward to this, have my ticket booked since they rereleased Alien the other week.
Killer Queen
Banned
Never watched aliens 3 but i agree.
LordOfLore
Banned
Will you make the spoiler thread when it's released?
Fancy Clown
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Alien 3 has characters that actually feel like human beings wrote them, and develops its themes in a way that is both coherent, and respectful of its characters and audience. And even with its horribly composited alien puppet and nigh-incomprehensible editing it somehow manages to have more tension than Prometheus.
Sorry playah, ya didn't set any record straight.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I don't think so? There's a thread here somehwere that has people basically signing up for that sorta shit. Kinda like the clipboard at the Y that you sign so 30 people don't hit the gym at the same time to play a game of 5 on 5.
So someone's probably already signed up for that and has photoshop files and magazine-esque layouts ready to go.
I do like, and think it should continue, the trend of making "Review Threads" the place where people who haven't seen the thing can talk about their anticipations, hopes, dreams, and whatever else makes poofing sounds out of their assholes, and "Official Threads" are just no-holds-barred full-on discussions of the film for people who have seen it.
It was so backwards the other way. "Oh, the OFFICIAL THREAD is where nobody can speak freely, everything's redacted like a Hoover document from the 60s, and half the people in there haven't even seen the fucking thing. But the SPOILER THREAD... be careful. Don't go in there. You might meet people who know what they're talking about..."
Nah. Aliens 3 was a snooze-fest. Prometheus was non-sensical babble but at least it was compelling non-sense.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
How was it compelling
What did it compel you to feel?
What did it compel you to feel?
x Dredgen Yor x
Member
can i read some spoilers for the whole movie please? I've heard some pretty outlandish claims about the plot and if any of them are true I have no interest in seeing the movie.
wesleyshark
Banned
Prometheus was great. There wasn't any reason this wasn't bound to be, also.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
But some people disagree with your premise there, and so their apprehension was based on that.
So yeah, there would be understandable reasons for people to have some skepticism/wariness as to the overall quality of the film.
I do think it's interesting that the project started with Michael Green & Jack Paglen, and now they only have story by credit. John Logan and Dante Harper are the credited writers.
Considering how changed the Prometheus script was and Spaihts still got a written by credit, I wonder just how much of Covenant got shifted in the pre-production/production phases that Green got bumped back to "Story by."
Is this releasing in 3D? I'm not seeing any reference to it on the marketing materials, and the local theater has advance tickets on sale, but again no mention of 3D.
I ask because Prometheus was actually really good in 3D, and Scott had said he'd be shooting everything in 3D from that point on... Did he change his mind?
I ask because Prometheus was actually really good in 3D, and Scott had said he'd be shooting everything in 3D from that point on... Did he change his mind?
starchild excalibur
Member
Currently at 66 with 13 reviews on Metacritic. Not amazing, but pretty solid given the series track record post-Aliens.
I'm not hyped for this despite loving Alien and actually enjoying Prometheus - stupid character logic and all - more than many of my friends, but I'll still catch Covenant. I'm expecting "Alien Lite," and will be pleasantly surprised if it's better than that.
wesleyshark
Banned
Come to think of it I haven't seen any mention of 3D either
Sapiens
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Bro, but did you watch the assembly cut, bro?
Possumowner
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These reviews are encouraging to me,I expected lots of grumbling and moaning,but no, pretty positive so far
Alien 3 holds a special place for me because it was the first Alien film I saw in theaters. And it is pretty visually striking. Yes, it's a pity it went through such hell during development, but the end result isn't (IMO) the complete train-wreck that everyone seems to think it is.
Makes me wonder how much of the film's negative reaction is actually a result of knowing what happened during development.
Makes me wonder how much of the film's negative reaction is actually a result of knowing what happened during development.
Sapiens
Member
It was the most 1997 film to ever 1997.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
It gets mentioned all the time.
Usually at the bottom end
Although a lot of people test their cleverness with the whole "what movies after Aliens? Those never happened! Get it, ha ha, because I'm super-disappointed in the quality of a movie so it's easier for me and my gentle psyche to simply make a show of pretending they never happened, as a soothing salve for the unhealed scar on my heart."
That happens every now and again.
But usually it gets mentioned.
I don't think a lot of that got out to the mainstream until after the film was released, really. Most of the negative reaction upon release was centered on Hicks & Newt getting mopped in the opening credits and being replaced with a prison full of assholes.
(there was also a weird bit of backlash to Ripley fucking the doctor. I definitely remember that)
wesleyshark
Banned
It's in my ranking.
But it's in last place.
There are parts of it that are okay, and actors I typically enjoy in other things, but overall it just didn't click for me. Not to mention how hyper 90s it is.
Edit:
Yes!
This is actually the 1st time I read someone saying that movie was good.
Normally it's hated on.
I felt it had too much of a comedy slant to it, almost like they were making fun of the series in some places like a parody, but it wasn't all bad. It had some great moments like the clone room. That was some creepy weird shit right there. And for me personally, I liked the hybrid human-alien monstrosity. Scariest thing in that movie.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I dunno... Chasing Amy came out in 1997.
So did Romy & Michelle and Grosse Pointe Blank.
for some reason I thought Prometheus was on netflix, but it isn't.
Luckily (maybe?) its on Channel 4 in the UK tonight at 22:30 after Captain America, so I'm going to record it and watch it. Good timing (likely the channel probably got a 'freebie' showing to help promote the new movie)
Luckily (maybe?) its on Channel 4 in the UK tonight at 22:30 after Captain America, so I'm going to record it and watch it. Good timing (likely the channel probably got a 'freebie' showing to help promote the new movie)
I only remember the doctor who died too damn early and the religious leader, everyone else was forgettable cannon fodder imo.
Major props for having the balls to kill Ripley and end her story, until Resurrection happened and ruined everything.
I still enjoyed A3 though,i would put it a little below Prometheus in my ranking.
Galactic Specter
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Prometheus wasn't a disaster in overall reactions, just divisive.
Alter_Fridge
Member
What about Ressurection?
It's really not that bad and actually makes you feel sorry for the baby Alien being squeezed out the window into space
Insane Metal
Member
79% ?! Color me surprised.
I will watch it anyway, so whatever.
I will watch it anyway, so whatever.