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BenjaminBirdie
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faridmon said:
Because he said it as a reason he didn't like their reviews. As if it were a bad thing to have a mind of one's own. Hence, the laffz.
Bayonetta is far from perfect, however it was the jump in character action games it was claimed to be, GoW and Ninja Gaiden might have improved on the DMC formula, but Bayonetta destroyed them both. It was the biggest advance in the genre since DMC basically invented it. It's an extraordinary game.I Push Fat Kids said:
All their ten scores, with the exception of Halo 3 I completely agree with. Edge gets endless shit, but they outclass every other gaming press publication I've come across.
BenjaminBirdie
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sillymonkey321 said:
What does five years have to do with anything? I seriously, SERIOUSLY, doubt that the games development schedule was mapped out for precisely five years, which is the only way anyone would have any cause to expect "greatness" because it took that long. More than likely, things had to be scrapped and adjusted. I seem to recall Alan Wake being promoted years ago, so I doubt in 2005, Remedy honchos had 5/18/10's dancing around in their pupils.
:lol (Sorry, but that image really made me laugh. I am hilarious.)
I seriously think that a 7 (and a 8 even) from an Edge just means it is a good game.
It means if you are not a hater of the genre in which the reviewed game is in, you will have tons of fun with it, chances are.
Anything above means a close-to-perfection formula in gameplay, or a serious balance between the content, the the presentation, and the formula, or a nice fresh change to the genre the game is in, or something like that.
That is why people who think their favorites are "downgraded" (see: Heavy Rain, KZ2, MGS4, Alan Wake) are simply wrong, and cant accept the fact that not everything which looks incredibly good and has a good story has the staying power and the hidden/obvious perfection - if they review it as a whole.
Same goes with Halo 3, but in the opposite way: there is a reason why the game has been more successful and had more staying power (check XBLA toplists, since 2007) than any of its "killers" ever since.
Edge points usually seem to me like something which never need an auto-correction a few years later.
It means if you are not a hater of the genre in which the reviewed game is in, you will have tons of fun with it, chances are.
Anything above means a close-to-perfection formula in gameplay, or a serious balance between the content, the the presentation, and the formula, or a nice fresh change to the genre the game is in, or something like that.
That is why people who think their favorites are "downgraded" (see: Heavy Rain, KZ2, MGS4, Alan Wake) are simply wrong, and cant accept the fact that not everything which looks incredibly good and has a good story has the staying power and the hidden/obvious perfection - if they review it as a whole.
Same goes with Halo 3, but in the opposite way: there is a reason why the game has been more successful and had more staying power (check XBLA toplists, since 2007) than any of its "killers" ever since.
Edge points usually seem to me like something which never need an auto-correction a few years later.
StuBurns said:
The combat is unquestionably great but:
- Motorcyle level
- Rocket level
- Turret shooting
- Game length/pacing. There were tons of pointless and overly long encounters that stretched the game on for way too long. Even with the sublime combat I found myself wanting a lot of the sequences to be over with.
- Honestly, was there ever a single shred of doubt in anyone's mind that Mario Galaxy 2 was going to be spectacular?
If there's one thing in gaming this year that I considered a safe bet, that was it.
- The impending Lost Planet 2 failure just reconfirms my initial reaction to their newest wave of announcements. Their real failure was not their disappointing efforts to edge in on the crowded third person shooter market, it was farming out Dead Rising 2 in favor of trying to do so.
Flat out, they bet on the wrong horse. This is not their strength. What a shame.
If there's one thing in gaming this year that I considered a safe bet, that was it.
- The impending Lost Planet 2 failure just reconfirms my initial reaction to their newest wave of announcements. Their real failure was not their disappointing efforts to edge in on the crowded third person shooter market, it was farming out Dead Rising 2 in favor of trying to do so.
Flat out, they bet on the wrong horse. This is not their strength. What a shame.
elrechazado
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That's just your opinion, it's almost like you have a mind of your own.Gouken said:
Mama Robotnik
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Gouken said:
This isn't the cutting explanatory statement I was hoping for.
I fully agree, however none of those things stopped me thinking of it as a game fully worthy of a ten. The same goes for GTA4 (which I know GAF hates), it is a deeply flawed piece of software, however everything it is beyond those flaws, is still enough to warrant the ten it got, for me at least.I Push Fat Kids said:
To me a game could be utterly broken, and still be the best game I've ever played. Rez is probably the best game I've played, however it's still massively far from perfect, it has a lot of major issues, but none of them detract from it's mastery.
Game reviewing, for me at least, should just be a writer attempting to articulate, and communicate their feelings for a game. Should BioShock get massive shit for not having multiplayer, having fairly piss poor pacing in the latter half and a distinct air of pretension? Maybe. But it is still an utterly remarkable achievement.
StuBurns said:
I can appreciate that and I'm with you on GTA4, I think the core of it is unparalleled. Also, I'm in the same camp that I think games should be judged as a whole as opposed to being broken down by graphics/control/etc. (I'd give Silent Hill: Shattered Memories a 10 for instance) That said, I think the problems in Bayonetta tainted my overall enjoyment and it would've affected my own score.
EDGE seems to give 10's based on shining examples of core gameplay (Halo, Mario, Bayonetta) and I can agree with that principle. I don't necessarily think Bayonetta is a 10 but I can accept EDGE awarding it as such.
Castle Doctrine
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V_Arnold said:
Come on now. So the people who actually did like KZ2, MSG4, and Heavy Rain didn't realize those games that weren't as good as they thought because Edge says so? No.
Rustymonke
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This was the only one I really couldn't quite understand. I thought was horribly designed in places, especially in the level design (although, yes, the core combat was astounding).I Push Fat Kids said:
Yea, that's how I see it too. Although it does surprise me people prefer the American Office, they seem to have a mind of their own or something.StuBurns said:
Btw, who is in your avatar, it looks like Ben from Lost.
Yeah, it is Joanna Newsom
Fimbulvetr
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V_Arnold said:
Like?
ThatObviousUser
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I Push Fat Kids said:
With this said, can we get a list of games that have gotten a 10 from EDGE?
I AM JOHN!
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Are we being trolled?
Gouken, I would like you to explain to me your ideal review.
Gouken, I would like you to explain to me your ideal review.
EmCeeGramr
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Maaaaaaaybe English isn't Gouken's first language, and "mind of their own" is some kind of idiom that's been mangled? Maybe?
That's all I've got. Or in some bizarre way he thinks the phrase "got a mind of its own" means "random."
That's all I've got. Or in some bizarre way he thinks the phrase "got a mind of its own" means "random."
I Push Fat Kids said:
Out of all the EDGE 10s, Bayonetta's is the only one I fully agree with. While I'm happy with all the scores they give and can see why the other games got 10, Bayonetta for me is the perfect game and the score it got entirely justified.
Perfect doesn't mean it doesn't have faults. But the faults it has are almost perfect in themselves as it almost seems as though they are revering in their own 'game-ness', nodding and winking at the player in referencing video game history and design. The rocket level for instance is less of a reference to After Burner and more a direct re-imagining of it. It may feel clunky and out of place but that's because it's supposed to. You're playing an old arcade game, and the designers make sure you know and understand that. Yet at the same time they provide ways for you to skip the archaic features if you want, furiously pressing the roll / dodge button means you can't actually be hit. You are in effect, invincible, if you really desire to stop believing in the nostalgia that's presented and just want to get on with the game proper.
It's a game that was built with the entirety of video game history in mind and that comes with its good and bad points. But they are all on purpose and they are all as polished and beautifully presented as anything out there. Some may find it hard to swallow - stylistically it could be compared to an Austin Powers movie with its self referential comedy - but those who can share in its joke reap all the rewards on offer, and there are hundreds.
I Push Fat Kids said:
We are certainly on the same page here.
ThatObviousUser
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AniHawk said:
Now that's the most respectable "10s List" I've seen in a loooooooooooooong time.
Fimbulvetr
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Mar said:
Actually the rocket level is from Space Harrier. A nearly perfect imitation of that game's first stage in fact.
Edit: The missiles are from After Burner though.
Like others say, the EDGE reviews can rub people up the wrong way some times. Usually if its a game they have been hyped to all fuck with. Sometimes they are overly harsh on a good game, or generous for a generic game, but thats the same with all reviewers: hit and miss. You just have higher expectations from Edge reviews in general because of their reputation.
That said, I think a couple of games should have gotten 10s, and a couple should have not gotten 10. From what I have played of each, Oddworld Stranger and RE4 (both 9s) came very close to getting 10 according to the reviews of each. I think Halo 3 and GTA4 are probably the weaker of the 10s in terms of both their impact within their respective series and the wider gaming market.
That said, I think a couple of games should have gotten 10s, and a couple should have not gotten 10. From what I have played of each, Oddworld Stranger and RE4 (both 9s) came very close to getting 10 according to the reviews of each. I think Halo 3 and GTA4 are probably the weaker of the 10s in terms of both their impact within their respective series and the wider gaming market.
Micromegas
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Lost Planet 2 - one of my most anticipated titles of '10. I am dissapoint.
ShockingAlberto
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At least it's not Million Dollar Baby.Mar said:
