EDGE 215 review scores

That desire to experiment is this astonishing game’s most dangerous achievement. As the adventures soars onwards, its various spaces become increasingly warped, and the final levels switch the emphasis from perfecting the 3D platformer to deconstructing it. Mario is rubbing up against the limits of the form as much as the edge of the universe here, and you’ll see worlds where ledges hang sparse in the air, and where ghosts plucked from the entire sweep of videogame history emerge in half-familiar clumpings of cubes or a nimble arrangement of switches.

Marvel at the pieces, but appreciate the whole. This isn’t a game that redefines the genre: this is one that rolls it up and locks it away. We’ve come so far, from stepping on mushrooms to drop-kicking meteors into the heart of the sun; Galaxy 2 offers a new understanding of where we’ve been, a new sense of wonder at where we’ll go next.
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I got goosebumps.
 
Regulus Tera said:
Hey, haven't played SMG2 yet. I cannot answer that.

Though my heart is big enough to love them both.
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Well EDGE seems to think it's at least 20% better. :P

<3
 
Andrex said:
Well EDGE seems to think it's at least 20% better. :P

<3
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EDGE is at least 1/9 wrong. :P
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Also, is it me or is SMG2 slowly becoming the Uncharted 2 of the Wii? Meaning the game everyone points out as holy grail of their system of choice.
 
God I hope so. Then we might actually get some quality GIFs of the damn thing instead of screencapped ones like with SMG1...
 
Regulus Tera said:
EDGE is at least 1/9 wrong. :P
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Also, is it me or is SMG2 slowly becoming the Uncharted 2 of the Wii? Meaning the game everyone points out as holy grail of their system of choice.
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Hopefully the fans behind SMG2 act a little more tactfully to criticism of that game.
 
Vinterbird said:
The "sucky review bullshit" is very common and I really don't get why media needs to highlight it in special cases like GTA4, when it happens to a lot of AAA games that release. But I guess it's a good story, and cannon fodder for the "GTA4 overrated" crowd.
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What? so it's quite common for reviewers to have to actually go to a developer's office to review a game with PR standing behind them? B/c I was always under the assumption that review copies just get mailed to the press and they play through them without any outside influences..
 
Gully State said:
What? so it's quite common for reviewers to have to actually go to a developer's office to review a game with PR standing behind them? B/c I was always under the assumption that review copies just get mailed to the press and they play through them without any outside influences..
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There is of course a lot of games that are just sent. But it's not insanely unsual to be invited to review events. I was actually very surprised that Alan Wake wasn't such a event, since MS likes to do it with their big games.
 
Glad to see that Nintendo seems to have matched, or even surpassed, the bar they set with Galaxy. Nintendo's been pretty astounding with their 1st party offerings this gen. Can't wait!
 
Regulus Tera said:
EDGE is at least 1/9 wrong. :P
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Also, is it me or is SMG2 slowly becoming the Uncharted 2 of the Wii? Meaning the game everyone points out as holy grail of their system of choice.
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That would be the first SMG. This is holy grail pt2.
 
darkwings said:
wowo galaxy 2!

alan awake could be a disappointment after all these years in development
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It's a good game don't worry. It has fair share of problems but what game doesn't ? I think the biggest problem of Wake is the repeative gameplay but still I enjoyed the ride the whole time. Seven from Edge is fair score and still a good score imo.
 
Modnation not make the mag even though it's reviewed on their website?

Some decent scores there for stuff. Slightly disappointed in 3D Heroes getting a 6, but hey it's just some randoms opinion. Good to see Split/Second getting good reviews coming in. Demo was hella good.
 
The way Edge reviews games, a 10 always makes me feel that they're full of shit (or money).

It's like, "hey we have this really strict review paradigm, but here's this hugely marketed game of money hats everywhere and we're completely uncritical of it and love it unconditionally!"
 
jakonovski said:
The way Edge reviews games, a 10 always makes me feel that they're full of shit (or money).

It's like, "hey we have this really strict review paradigm, but here's this hugely marketed game of money hats everywhere and we're completely uncritical of it and love it unconditionally!"
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I feel the same way. All these great games getting 7s and 8s, then all of the sudden a super-hyped game gets a 10 when it feels like if it weren't for the hype, it could have easily been in with the 7s and 8s.
 
jakonovski said:
The way Edge reviews games, a 10 always makes me feel that they're full of shit (or money).

It's like, "hey we have this really strict review paradigm, but here's this hugely marketed game of money hats everywhere and we're completely uncritical of it and love it unconditionally!"
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Edge had a shift a few years ago. The whole 10 is revolutionary thing got shitcanned because the golden age of 3D being new to the medium is over. It's unfair to expect the same of Gran Turismo, Mario 64 et al of today's games. So they adjusted to make 10 more achievable.

Deal with it.
Big Ass Ramp said:
I feel the same way. All these great games getting 7s and 8s, then all of the sudden a super-hyped game gets a 10 when it feels like if it weren't for the hype, it could have easily been in with the 7s and 8s.
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You best start your own magazine and award scores the way you think then.
 
jakonovski said:
The way Edge reviews games, a 10 always makes me feel that they're full of shit (or money).

It's like, "hey we have this really strict review paradigm, but here's this hugely marketed game of money hats everywhere and we're completely uncritical of it and love it unconditionally!"
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Or maybe SMG 2 is just as fantastic as SMG was.
 
DennisK4 said:
Or maybe SMG 2 is just as fantastic as SMG was.
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Could be, just as it could be that many of the games they pan are being panned for effect. Point being, the whole publication feels like a huge troll.
 
jakonovski said:
Could be, just as it could be that many of the games they pan are being panned for effect. Point being, the whole publication feels like a huge troll.
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Or maybe u one of them sensitive people who take videogame reviews as personal insults.
 
jakonovski said:
No, I'm just commenting on a magazine. Some things you like, some you don't.
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Your constructive criticism; "the whole publication feels like a huge troll" already speaks for itself.
 
GF bought an PAL Wii so was gonna wait for the pal galaxy 2. Now i will be getting the japanese version for my wii. dont wanna wait to jun 11th. Def gotta pick up sin and punishment 2. have been putting it off for other stuff.
 
Tears For Fears said:
LOL, people still take this magazine seriously. It's the IGN of print.
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Oh I see. It's nice to meet you too.

AniHawk said:
Hopefully the fans behind SMG2 act a little more tactfully to criticism of that game.
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How can you criricise a perfect game!

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Could be, just as it could be that many of the games they pan are being panned for effect. Point being, the whole publication feels like a huge troll.
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So because one publication uses bigger scale than the usual 7-10 (with scores below 7 being reserved for only the worst games) it feels like a troll, right?
 
zoukka said:
Your constructive criticism; "the whole publication feels like a huge troll" already speaks for itself.
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You are indeed free to like what you like. But it would benefit your understanding of things if you also read the preceding posts I made. But that's it from me on this, I'm finally going to finish watching this week's Deadly Premonition Endurance Run.
 
Looking forward to SMG2 even more.
But what I think is really great and surprising is that What Did I Do To Deserve This, My Lord!? 2 (FKA Badman!, ..) got a review and good rating. A game like that can't get enough exposure.
I love the first one and I'm waiting for this sequel to arrive from the States.
 
CassSept said:
How can you criricise a perfect game!
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A 10 does not mean that the game is perfect...

We’re talking about ones opinion here. Of course, this one opinion is biased just like everyone else’s opinion is. This opinion usually is not better or worth more than anyone else’s. It’s just heard/read by a lot more people and has most likely more influence on the reader’s view because it’s one of the first optinions they read about this game.

I’m not entirely sure what the score 10 from EDGE means. The only thing I know is that the reviewer (probably) had a lot of fun playing this game. Is it a perfect game? Obviously not. Even if the reviewer says that "Super Mario Galaxy 2" is a perfect game there might be something that you don't like about it. And I’m sure there will be something about this game that I won’t like.

The phrase “perfect game” bugs me to no end, because no one can tell me what a perfect game is!
 
Snap, I was joking. There is no perfect game, and there never will, everybody sane knows that. Just like there is no perfect movie etc. Maybe I should've added a few more exclamation marks to make it more obvious :)

I know people have opinions, but you should pop in SMG2 thread where a single person saying that SMG is not perfect is starting a heated argument and the person in question is called a troll. While SMG is imo close to perfection, it's obvious that many people are overreacting and the same is gonna happen to SMG2, especially if it's an even better game (and all signs are pointing to this).
 
jakonovski said:
Could be, just as it could be that many of the games they pan are being panned for effect. Point being, the whole publication feels like a huge troll.
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See, EDGE is as shitty as Famitsu, yes. Any sane person knows and admits that.

But you really doubt that SMG2 is 10-worthy? It´s a lucky shot of EDGE, yeah, but there´s no room for doubt that SMG2 builds upon SMG1, so...
 
jakonovski said:
The way Edge reviews games, a 10 always makes me feel that they're full of shit (or money).

It's like, "hey we have this really strict review paradigm, but here's this hugely marketed game of money hats everywhere and we're completely uncritical of it and love it unconditionally!"
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Yes, becaus they throw tens around like its candy. One whole 10 last year! A relative niche game published by Sega. Must be the money hats!

If anything, Edge is one of the few mags that really dares to be critical when it comes to big hyped games. Unless they believe they're really good of course.
 
jakonovski said:
The way Edge reviews games, a 10 always makes me feel that they're full of shit (or money).

It's like, "hey we have this really strict review paradigm, but here's this hugely marketed game of money hats everywhere and we're completely uncritical of it and love it unconditionally!"
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Yep, completely agree.

If there's one company that's willing to money hat the enthusiast press, it's Nintendo with Super Mario Galaxy 2. Damn company does it all the time.



Serious reply: Out of all the games to be skeptical about, SMG 2 seems very low on the ladder. We've never heard any stories of Nintendo exerting pressure on western enthusiast press, mainly because they don't care about western enthusiast press. And it's not as if Galaxy 2 has had the typical big budget game hype process. If anything, for a game of its pedigree it's flown under the radar, relatively.

I'm not saying Edge might not have overrated it or whatever, but being cynical about reviews of Mario Galaxy 2 doesn't make much sense.
 
It is a rather funny juxtaposition to make about Edge, their tens are all stereotypical big buck AAA releases, while they're supposed to be the magazine that dares to be different. I'd feel a whole lot better about their journalistic cojones if they dared to give tens to something less known, maybe even indie.
 
jakonovski said:
It is a rather funny juxtaposition to make about Edge, their tens are all stereotypical big buck AAA releases, while they're supposed to be the magazine that dares to be different. I'd feel a whole lot better about their journalistic cojones if they dared to give tens to something less known, maybe even indie.
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Yes, Bayonetta is very stereotypical. Truly the type of game that appears twenty times every year.

A good game is a good game.
 
jakonovski said:
It is a rather funny juxtaposition to make about Edge, their tens are all stereotypical big buck AAA releases, while they're supposed to be the magazine that dares to be different. I'd feel a whole lot better about their journalistic cojones if they dared to give tens to something less known, maybe even indie.
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Bayonetta got a 10
Alan Wake and Heavy Rain got a 7
Gran Turismo PSP got something terrible

Their approach to AAA seems pretty balanced
 
They won't give a 10 to an indie for the sake of being different. It'd have to deserve it.

The unfortunate truth is that it's more likely the high-end will produce a '10 game'.

However it's not a rule that can't be broken.

If you took 'Sony-as-publisher' out of the equation, MM with LBP was pretty close to that. A new independent studio, small, 20-30 people, likely not a very expensive game to make etc.
 
StuBurns said:
If you mean is it more of a subjective opinion than a product review, I'd say more so than most, but not entirely.

As for British bias, such bullshit, is it so hard to believe that English people might see more appeal to something that is made by British people who have similar tastes and senses of humor etc? There is something very distinctly British about games like LBP, GTA, Fable etc, something that could easily be missed by people outside of the country. Of course this should be reflected in reviews. Is an Englishman likely to react the same way to something like Dances with Wolves as an American? Of course not. People don't highlight an American bias in all American press for everything that is American, because it is not a bias, it is a case of media input and influence on the reviewers life.
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No I wasn't just replying to another user when he said surely they would give RDR a 10.
 
I'm closer to getting a Wii now, gotta see Zelda first. Just checked the review for the first Mario Galaxy on Edge and that got a 10 too, impressive. Or maybe I'll just play them on Nintendo's next console.

Though I'm still deciding whether I should play Mario Sunshine first before the Galaxy games. I started that game a few times and never went past the first star or two. Actually I don't think I ever went that far. Strange for a Nintendo game to be so painfully boring that I never had the will to play it for a few hours.
 
Big Ass Ramp said:
The only game I care about, Red Dead Redemption, isn't in it. :(
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Gully State said:
After reading about how Rockstar handled the GTAIV review (making reviewers play in a room with Rockstar PR watching/commenting), I'm not even going to bother with RDR reviews.
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it's been pretty common for gta since the ps2 era, it's not just related to gta4. it's probably a spread out issue in the whole industry, not just related to rockstar games.
 
That Alan Wake score scares me. I mean, i went from not giving a shit, to seeing the trailers, to being so pumped up, but now this and a few scores scare me. Still i will judge from myself because from the videos and such i have seen it looks amazing.
 
Aspiring said:
That Alan Wake score scares me. I mean, i went from not giving a shit, to seeing the trailers, to being so pumped up, but now this and a few scores scare me. Still i will judge from myself because from the videos and such i have seen it looks amazing.
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Remember that this is Edge. Other sites/publications use only 7-10 scale, and rarely go under that (save for truly godawful games). 7 from Edge means it is a good game, really. If anything, this means that you should still be interested in Alan Wake.
 
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