NotSmartEnough
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T Flight 4 arrived this afternoon. I got as far as plugging it in and opening the config menu, then the wife and kids got home and that was that.
Going to give it a try now.
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Elite Dangerous: Horizons |OT| Just scratching the surface
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T Flight 4 arrived this afternoon. I got as far as plugging it in and opening the config menu, then the wife and kids got home and that was that.
Going to give it a try now.
NotSmartEnough
Member
I'm liking the PS4 T Flight HOTAS. Just did a couple of training missions to get the hang of it.
Having a physical throttle control makes a big difference as you've got a genuine reference, rather than just R1/L1.
As expected, a full size flight stick gives more subtle control than the DS4 thumb stick, but a noticeable improvement was having yaw mapped to the twist axis of the stick. It feels more natural and intuitive.
The default config (which I haven't changed so far) has the lateral thrusters mapped to the rudder control rocker on the throttle lever, with the altitude thrusters on the R2/L2 buttons next to it.
It's nice not to have to toggle flight modes when docking, just feels more integrated.
Struggling a bit with menus as I haven't got used to the positioning of the symbol buttons yet. The d-pad functions are mapped to the little 4-way Hat switch on the flight stick.
I noticed that the default config seems to have left L3 spare, which is just to the right of where your right thumb rests. Sure I'll find a good use for it.
I was concerned about the size of the HOTAS, as it's a big unit and quite weighty, but so far I've been using it on my lap with both halves linked together with no problems.
When I checked the compatibility list it did mention that Eve Valkyrie also supports it, so I might give that a try sometime, too.
Having a physical throttle control makes a big difference as you've got a genuine reference, rather than just R1/L1.
As expected, a full size flight stick gives more subtle control than the DS4 thumb stick, but a noticeable improvement was having yaw mapped to the twist axis of the stick. It feels more natural and intuitive.
The default config (which I haven't changed so far) has the lateral thrusters mapped to the rudder control rocker on the throttle lever, with the altitude thrusters on the R2/L2 buttons next to it.
It's nice not to have to toggle flight modes when docking, just feels more integrated.
Struggling a bit with menus as I haven't got used to the positioning of the symbol buttons yet. The d-pad functions are mapped to the little 4-way Hat switch on the flight stick.
I noticed that the default config seems to have left L3 spare, which is just to the right of where your right thumb rests. Sure I'll find a good use for it.
I was concerned about the size of the HOTAS, as it's a big unit and quite weighty, but so far I've been using it on my lap with both halves linked together with no problems.
When I checked the compatibility list it did mention that Eve Valkyrie also supports it, so I might give that a try sometime, too.
NotSmartEnough
Member
Not sure, sorry. I think the 4 is a revised version of the X. I read something about the 4 having a smaller dead zone, but apart from that and the positioning of the four buttons on the side of the throttle lever they seem to be the same.
It's probably more a matter of firmware than hardware.
TheMilkGuy
Member
Thanks for your impressions!
I will try the game first with the Dualshock to see if it will click with me.
I will try the game first with the Dualshock to see if it will click with me.
To these two posts:
(I feel like this will get a lot of mileage in this thread.)
With that last gif of everyone crashing into the surface, what exactly was happening?
Why did they need a Neutron star on the other side? Did they know it would work like that?
i think the hotas x is ps3 not ps4 compatible, and vice versafor the 4. been looking into it as well
Anton Sugar
Member
The supercharged FSD boost only last a single jump. This means there are certain locations you can jump *to* but not jump back from.
A number of explorers/groups have been doing these "suicide" missions to see what else is out there on the rim of the galaxy.
Gusy
Member
hmmm.. just tried a few training missions on base PS4. It didn't feel 60ish smooth to me. It felt more around the vicinity of 40-50 fps. Maybe there's a frame pacing issue or something..
Or maybe let's wait for the Digital Foundry verdict. Just don't expect rock solid 60fps gameplay on base PS4
Or maybe let's wait for the Digital Foundry verdict. Just don't expect rock solid 60fps gameplay on base PS4
Anton Sugar
Member
It's far from rock solid on X1 so that doesn't surprise me. Generally a fairly consistent 60 fps out in supercruise and general space, but combat zones, planets, space stations, etc. drop down for sure.
Curious what the Pro performance will look like.
Curious what the Pro performance will look like.
same here, it isn't a smooth 60
btw are there planets with life? even just vegetation, all I see are rocks lol after NMS, it feels lifeless
ValeYard
Member
Thanks for this. I went crazy yesterday and ordered a Hotas 4 too. I would've gone Hotas X if it was supported, so Hotas 4 seems to be the only option. On Frontier's forums I read that rudder peddles aren't supported, in case anyone's wondering.
Can't wait to be more immersed in spaaaace tonight with my Hotas.
Michael Armbrust
Member
Essentially all the landable planets are lifeless. There are some alien plant like things but they're incredibly rare.
Frontier has been adding more detail and variety to the planet surfaces but progress is slow. I wouldn't expect lush planets for years if ever.
Yeah. One is suppose to be for the PS3 and other for the PS4. Both work on PC though. I had the Hotas 4 for a few days. Nice unit but big. Far bigger then I was expecting and just didn't have the room for it.
It used to be that atmospheric planets were just a matter of time and recently it's sounding more like an "if" than a "when". Maybe that's just poor communication but it's not a great sign.
Oh, don't worry. You haven't gone fully crazy before you start building this kind of stuff and are eyeing East European made high end joysticks, although you already have a perfectly fine one and dream of a three monitor setup:
I'm currently building this partial desk based "Sim pit", as the HOTAS and pedals sliding around and the chair being pushed back never felt quite right. It's also eventually supposed to hold the G27 I have lying around unused due to the lack of appropriate place to mount it.
Elite has long lost its magic for me. Problem being that the most fun I had was learning the basic mechanics and PvE. From there on, it was all about grinding X of Y and googling how to do Z, as to not waste days on it. Which is not to say I won't be back to check out any additions, but in the meantime I'm looking for more serious sims to use all the flight setup.
Edit:
*drool* said:
Oh right, so the crash wasn't directly caused by the jump. They just had nowhere else to go.
... o7
I'm still glad I picked up NMS (on the cheap) for when I want "alien planet survival game".
I don't play any other survival games, and it's got some good stuff going for it now like base building, etc.
But ED has taken over for now with its incredible flight controls and near-real world physics.
I just love the way everything feels and responds, too. The sound design/implementation is impeccable.
Combat? Viper Mk3. Trading? Adder or Hauler. Allrounder? Save up a bit and go for the Cobra Mk3. But you might want to go for a Viper or the traders in between, as outfitting a Cobra is quite a bit more expensive and getting there with a Sidewinder is more of a pita. The Eagle is more of a sidestep than anything.
Edit: Essentially every ship after the sidewinder is a good ship, as all of them open up far more of the game to you.
Moose Biscuits
It would be extreamly painful...
I have a PS3 HOTAS X so I'll try it tonight when the game arrives.
For what it's worth I'm able to use it on War Thunder on PS4, but since that also uses mouse and keyboard no idea if it carries across.
somme
Member
As am NMS fan I personally feel both it and Elite sit quite nicely next to each other. Obviously, Elite is the more hardcore sim but sometimes I don't want to wait ten minutes before reaching my destination.
I've only been playing Elite for a few days (bought it for PS4), but I can imagine I'll sink just as much time into it as I have NMS (several hundred hours).
As a space lover in general, it doesn't have to be either or.
I've noticed a few issues on the PS4Pro, but nothing game breaking. There have been a few times I've come out of supercruise and nothing has happened, but I was guessing that was more down to my awful Internet connection than anything else.
Away for a wedding this weekend so can't play until Monday, it's gonna be a long weekend...
I've only been playing Elite for a few days (bought it for PS4), but I can imagine I'll sink just as much time into it as I have NMS (several hundred hours).
As a space lover in general, it doesn't have to be either or.
I've noticed a few issues on the PS4Pro, but nothing game breaking. There have been a few times I've come out of supercruise and nothing has happened, but I was guessing that was more down to my awful Internet connection than anything else.
Away for a wedding this weekend so can't play until Monday, it's gonna be a long weekend...
NotSmartEnough
Member
I've also had some problems on Pro. Nothing to start with but then I started getting delays going in and out of supercruise, sometimes ending in an error message and being dumped back into the main menu.
Last night I tried solo game instead and it seemed a lot more stable. Maybe the servers are struggling as more PS4 players cone online?
I feel your pain about waiting until Monday; just come out of the channel tunnel en route to Disneyland Paris. Won't be back until late Sunday and then straight back to work on Monday morning. No game time for days!
somme
Member
I was wondering if this was the case too. A couple of times I've been chucked to the main menu only to be told, "can't connect to Frontier servers."
I was fine with that, I had Necromancer Diablo DLC to play too.
Life can be very cruel to us gamers. Haha.
Retro Edge
Member
Got it. Only paid 39,99 cause the German department store Müller has 20% off on all games. Great!
Peroroncino
Member
New personal best in CQC TDM. 
18:0 with 3 assists - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38NQPgGftII
I basically stuffed my entire team into a backpack and carried them the whole match since 25 kills is basically the winning threshold and the opposing team was actually pretty decent at killing my teammates. But man it felt pretty good staring at that score after the match. This mode really needs more love and better integration into the main mode, e.g. searching for a match inside our cockpits like with crew/wing etc.
Hope you'll like it.
18:0 with 3 assists - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38NQPgGftII
I basically stuffed my entire team into a backpack and carried them the whole match since 25 kills is basically the winning threshold and the opposing team was actually pretty decent at killing my teammates. But man it felt pretty good staring at that score after the match. This mode really needs more love and better integration into the main mode, e.g. searching for a match inside our cockpits like with crew/wing etc.
Hope you'll like it.
Retro Edge
Member
Played the training missions to the advanced fight training part so far and I can't beat the second half of that.
Whatever I do, no matter what, I can't get this 2 ships in front of me, they are always behind me no matter if I boost, stop, turn, whatever.
I think I will skip that part, what kind of magic do I need to beat them?
Whatever I do, no matter what, I can't get this 2 ships in front of me, they are always behind me no matter if I boost, stop, turn, whatever.
I think I will skip that part, what kind of magic do I need to beat them?
Played the training missions to the advanced fight training part so far and I can't beat the second half of that.
Whatever I do, no matter what, I can't get this 2 ships in front of me, they are always behind me no matter if I boost, stop, turn, whatever.
I think I will skip that part, what kind of magic do I need to beat them?
Learn how to fly with flight assist off
Peroroncino
Member
Played the training missions to the advanced fight training part so far and I can't beat the second half of that.
Whatever I do, no matter what, I can't get this 2 ships in front of me, they are always behind me no matter if I boost, stop, turn, whatever.
I think I will skip that part, what kind of magic do I need to beat them?
Make sure your speed is in the blue zone [better maneuverability] and focus on having just 1 ship in front of you, you can try and use chaff to fuck up the other one's targeting for a while, buying you enough time to kill the one in front of you.
Learn how to fly with flight assist off
NEVER
Retro Edge
Member
Learn how to fly with flight assist off
It's the trainings mission, you have to beat it without changing settings and being a pro.
I don't even know how to turn it off.
No seriously, what can I do when an opponent is behind me, I can barely get out of it and have the feeling there is nothing I can do.
Thanks for the tips.
It's the trainings mission, you have to beat it without changing settings and being a pro.
I don't even know how to turn it off.
No seriously, what can I do when an opponent is behind me, I can barely get out of it and have the feeling there is nothing I can do.
Thanks for the tips.
From what I remember, it's doable, you just need to manage your speed and turning angle, you could also bait them into flying behind you and hitting the anchors and letting them blow past.
Dropping flight assist off, performing a quick turn, turning it back on again and boosting is a good technique to learn though in all seriousness.
Retro Edge
Member
Lionheart1827
Member
Hey Guys,
I'm trying to find a straight answer on this but does this game have co-op/playing with friends functionality?
My friend and I are thinking of getting this game on PS4 and we're hoping that we can play together somehow?
I'm trying to find a straight answer on this but does this game have co-op/playing with friends functionality?
My friend and I are thinking of getting this game on PS4 and we're hoping that we can play together somehow?
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
Yes, you can form wings with your ships, or in certain ships you can join into a crew.
The Greek Freak
Member
How is the game offline if zi want to avoid pvp entirely?
Lionheart1827
Member
Anton Sugar
Member
There is no Offline--just a Solo mode that is PvE but within the same online, connected world and background simulation.
TONS of players play Solo, though there haven't been any numbers released, to my knowledge. Playing PvP requires a certain amount of patience and willingness to be destroyed at random, but it can be very rewarding and immersive.
you can't switch between them?
You can switch between all modes and not lose any progress.
Full crazy you say?
I play exclusively in VR and the stick and throttle are perfectly placed in relation to where they are in-game.
SuicidalSteve
Member
Played the training missions to the advanced fight training part so far and I can't beat the second half of that.
Whatever I do, no matter what, I can't get this 2 ships in front of me, they are always behind me no matter if I boost, stop, turn, whatever.
I think I will skip that part, what kind of magic do I need to beat them?
What i did was to rotate what power goes where so when i am all out assault i put power to the weapons. If i am getting attacked i put all power to the systems for more defence
It only clicked with me when i forgot pressing the dpad to changes them
The Greek Freak
Member
Solo mode with no offline? What a bummer there goes all of my interest.
Full crazy you say?
I play exclusively in VR and the stick and throttle are perfectly placed in relation to where they are in-game.
What handles are those? I've been wanting something similar to set it up for my X55 Hotas.
Considering how the game works, it couldn't be offline
JackAubrey
Member
Much of the content of the game is on servers. Do you think they'd put the whole galaxy on the disk?
They are actually VESA pole mounts, let me see if I can find a link.
Edit: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OPC4BH2/?tag=neogaf0e-20
I think most of the game is procedurally generated. Markets and missions are definitely server-side though. Also, it's a cheating prevention mechanism so you can't just give yourself enough credits to buy all the high-end ships.
Michael Armbrust
Member
I was 50/50 on if I wanted atmospheric landings or space legs for season 3, but now it feels like it'll be neither. At least 2.3 was great imo. That's given me a lot of confidence on Elite's future even if updates are slower than hoped.