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[ruvikx]

Had to google image her when she was younger

Man shes pretty..

Alot of average joe here would be happy to get her

What a missed opportunity...

She's a Fucked in the head nutjob. That's the sad part.

Hollywood is a meat grinder filled with drugs, psychos, lunatics & aspiring narcissistic self-absorbed losers who'll do anything to gain some notoriety, hence why they're so predisposed towards adopting these sorts of highly publicized positions, no matter which era.

She's a she, by the way. She doesn't have the male chromosome to call herself one. Sorry, real life isn't a Hollywood script where you pretend to be whatever the fuck you want.

 

[teezzy]

You just have to put on a cap and you become a guy now.

Elliot still looks like a teenage girl with a female voice.

You'd be shocked how easily duped people are. Donald Trump put on a red trucker hat and suddenly people accepted him as one of the "common men".

 

[FunkMiller]

You guys are still scared of the Christian boogeyman? I said show me something that makes your case that it's harmful, you're just reading me outdated media narrative from 20 years ago. I know what Christian doctrine states, and I know there are a lot of Christians, but I'm not seeing much in the way of gays being verbally or physically assaulted, in fact I'm seeing more and more Christians every year accept gays and welcome them into the Church. Where are all your visible effects of homophobia? Even any prominent stories involving it?

Ok, if you’re seriously suggesting Evangelical Christianity isn’t anti gay, then no point continuing this conversation.... other than to say that if you tell people that they’re committing a sin just for being who they are... that’s homophobic. But I’ve had this ‘discussion’ with plenty of people who take your position, and it never ends well, and is a waste of my time.

 

[Classicrockfan]

Will he go the chaz bono way?

 

[Nymphae]

Ok, if you’re seriously suggesting Evangelical Christianity isn’t anti gay

Didn't say that at all, serious question are you retarded? I specifically stated that I know what Christian doctrine states. It is decidedly anti-gay. I'm asking for something other than parroting narrative, like a recent news story involving homophobic activity or something along those lines. You're claiming the spectre of Christian homophobes is actively harming the culture, and I want to know materially how. I'm quite familiar with the r/atheist mindset and I'm tired of the narratives that don't stand up to scrutiny. Yes hardcore Christians hate gays, and I see no evidence that this is a significant source of hardship for anyone anymore.

 

[Serge85]

SO BRAVE!!!!

 

[TrainedRage]

I mean let’s be real, we all knew this.

 

[#Phonepunk#]

The much larger issue being that she lives in a country containing a lot of homophobic religious people, and it’s easier for her to say she’s now a dude than it is for her to be proud and happy about being gay, because that’s actually likely to receive more abuse.

Lol what country is that? U think America has a lot of homophobia? Dude wake the fuck up gays can get married in all 50 states and have been able to for a decade at this point.

80% of trans murders occur south of the border in brown countries but don’t let facts get in the way of your bigoted feeling.

Also lol u think coming out as trans is more accepted than lesbians? What planet are you from?

 

[highrider]

Her career tanked, this is a Hail Mary.

 

[Winter's End]

If it makes him happy then more power to him.
Just kinda stupid question but shouldn't his pronouns be hi/him? Why the "they"?.



It's Netflix, they'll probably gladly make the character trans now She already went from straight to lesbian or at least bi in season 2

I also wouldn't say his career is over. Things as they are, there's probably going to be an increased demand for trans characters in movies/tv shows in the future.

Nah his career is pretty much over if he decides to transition or wants to play only male roles from now on or do you see anyone from this tiny list regularly or even just know them at all:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Transgender_and_transsexual_male_actors

There is a reason why there are so few trans actors famous or not i'm not a fan of it either but i don't think he can change that .

 

[captainnapalm]

If you actually read that message of his on Twitter, it's totally unhinged. He's all happiness and love and these are my pronouns and prepositions and then suddenly it's like fuck my enemies! You have blood on your hands! He literally just joined the club but he's already pissed off about everything. It's just a ping pong ball of SJW nuttiness. Hard to see this ending well.

 

[JokerMM]

help me out here folks, do these transgenders grow dicks with hormones and shit?
i don't wanna google it

 

[BlackOlivesMatter]

This is all a set up for the eventual Just One Of The Guys remake

 

[DeaDPo0L84]

I don't like this new world where mental disorders are celebrated and if you disagree with them even in the tiniest bit you are shamed and get cancelled.

I have no issue with how she chooses to be represented but don't expect me to ignore basic biology, you're a female, plain and simple.

 

[highrider]

help me out here folks, do these transgenders grow ducks with hormones and shit?
i don't wanna google it

 

[PK Gaming]

I mean this without a sense of irony, but, good for him.

 

[quickwhips]

Everyone wants to be a man until they get punched in the face.

 

[Aggelos]

Oscar-Nominated ‘Umbrella Academy’ Star Elliot Page Announces He Is Transgender

 

[Weiji]

Is this her way of telling her girlfriend she wants to be top?

She put on a hat and is gonna wear boy’s clothing for comfort. Why does anyone else need to be involved in that, other then to force them to play make believe in your fantasy world? God these people are insufferable. JUST WEAR THE PANTS, YOU DON’T NEED PERMISSION OR VALIDATION.

 

[thefool]

I thought she was sick or something for a long time. Been looking rough. Wish him the best.

 

[Riven326]

Good for him. Doesn't affect me at all, but if it makes him feel better and more comfortable about his life then that's a good thing as far I as I can tell.

Him? It's her. What the fuck happened to liberals? They used to be all about science. That includes chromosomes.

 

[DESTROYA]

help me out here folks, do these transgenders grow dicks with hormones and shit?
i don't wanna google it

You can’t just grow a dick you have to make one from the parts you have.

But at this point

 

[LightofRohan]

Also should read her statement and see how self absorbed it is



Blah Blah my privilage, Blah Blah Black and latinx are being killed 40 of them there are FORTY OF THEM. Its all those evil white males faults (wait a minute I am a white male now).

Waitt a second. We are responsible for trans people killing themselves? It wouldn't be because of the very complicated and difficult path of self discovery and thinking that altering your pronouns is a step towards self acceptance and appreciation, but then finding out it's not actually how you define yourself to others and now you are in a trickier spot and STILL unhappy/self-loathing??? Nahh, it's because straight white people say, "Hey man" when you are actually a practicing female.

That's just the shit I have issues with, I get you want to define yourself however you want to, its your prerogative. I'll call you whatever you feel like you want to be called, I think life can be more interesting. But when there is this outward blame for an individuals well-being thrust on others, it is super disconcerting, mental health is a tricky thing you have no right to attribute its personal challenges to groups of people. You are the only one that can help yourself, stop seeking others for validation and purpose. And stop being shocked when some don't follow along with how you WANT to be defined, that is the nature of humanity and you choose to let it bother you or not.

 

[Classicrockfan]

 

[Elcid]

I mean whatever, doesn’t affect me. You do you.

 

[Kimahri]

I hope she'll be happier than what she must have been, but sorry i just can't call her he. I just can't. I can’t even formulate it in my mouth because I don't believe it. You could ask me to say the world is flat, that our lives are run by greek gods.

I just don't believe in it. And I've tried to read up and get educated, but I can't move past that born male, always male. Born female, always female.

How you feel doesn't matter. You're born with what you're born with.

It's insane that I feel almost like I'm breaking a law for saying this. I have no ill will towards these people. I wish them the best, but I can't come around on this.

 

[Calcium]

I'm old and tired. Very tired.

 

[cryptoadam]

Waitt a second. We are responsible for trans people killing themselves? It wouldn't be because of the very complicated and difficult path of self discovery and thinking that altering your pronouns is a step towards self acceptance and appreciation, but then finding out it's not actually how you define yourself to others and now you are in a trickier spot and STILL unhappy/self-loathing??? Nahh, it's because straight white people say, "Hey man" when you are actually a practicing female.

I have a feeling its alot of loser dudes who think if they become girls they will get tons of sex either from gay dudes or gay women, but then find out that no one really wants them anyways.

Also other thing I read is that most trans people are actually killed by other minorities, and that a lot of these trans deaths aren't really related to them being trans or bigotry.

Real talk this is a mental disorder and we should treat it as such. Just like someone saying they hear voices in their head we don't all of a sudden say oh ok those voices are real and everyone else in the world has to pretend we hear the voices too and that a real person is trapped inside a schizo's head. People with the actual condition gender dysphoria should get the help they need and everyone else should be told that your born a certain sex and just because you like a certain sex or certain colors doesn't mean you are the opposite sex.

 

[HellforLeather]

She just put on a hat

Honestly, I couldnt care less. If that what makes her/him happy then whatever.

 

[J-Roderton]

Ugh. Aight.

 

[PumpkinPie]

Will he go the chaz bono way?

What, fat?

 

[TTOOLL]

She was a woman and now he's a man. Suck it, non-binaries!!!

 

[cryptoadam]

Well his marriage just exposes either the BS about trans, or the BS around being gay.

Elliot is married to a women

So if we follow translogic and say that Elliot is really a man, that means that either his wife is not gay anymore and is attracted to men.

Or

This trans people are really man/women is bollocks and you can't just poof become the opposite sex.

So which is it. Gay people are attracted to the opposite sex so a transman/women is really the opposite sex, or trans are really real man/women and gay peoples attraction can change on a whim and you can go from being gay liking the same sex to being straight likeing the opposite sex?

His wife better be getting a divorce and shacking up with a big breasted women or I call Bullshit on the whole goddamn thing.

 

[diffusionx]

I have a feeling its alot of loser dudes who think if they become girls they will get tons of sex either from gay dudes or gay women, but then find out that no one really wants them anyways.

Also other thing I read is that most trans people are actually killed by other minorities, and that a lot of these trans deaths aren't really related to them being trans or bigotry.

Real talk this is a mental disorder and we should treat it as such. Just like someone saying they hear voices in their head we don't all of a sudden say oh ok those voices are real and everyone else in the world has to pretend we hear the voices too and that a real person is trapped inside a schizo's head. People with the actual condition gender dysphoria should get the help they need and everyone else should be told that your born a certain sex and just because you like a certain sex or certain colors doesn't mean you are the opposite sex.

The Man Who Would Be Queen - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[O-N-E]

She's been stealing roles from legitimate women all her life.

 

[TTOOLL]

Well his marriage just exposes either the BS about trans, or the BS around being gay.

Elliot is married to a women

So if we follow translogic and say that Elliot is really a man, that means that either his wife is not gay anymore and is attracted to men.

Or

This trans people are really man/women is bollocks and you can't just poof become the opposite sex.

So which is it. Gay people are attracted to the opposite sex so a transman/women is really the opposite sex, or trans are really real man/women and gay peoples attraction can change on a whim and you can go from being gay liking the same sex to being straight likeing the opposite sex?

His wife better be getting a divorce and shacking up with a big breasted women or I call Bullshit on the whole goddamn thing.

 

[J-Roderton]

 

[Flash Junkins]

So if I put on a skirt and call myself missy then everyone must call me Missy?

Bizarre world we are living in, it's almost they are brainwashed to shrink out population one virgin at a time.....christ....

 

[ExpandKong]

Whatever.

I'm in full support of people living their best life, as long as they're not harming others

Just harming themselves, right?

 

[Kreen101]

That woman, 40 years ago, or indeed even 20, or 10 years ago, would have never actually thought she was a man, and would have never had the idea to "come out" as "trans". This is impossible to separate from the cultural and political context.

 

[Calcium]

Well his marriage just exposes either the BS about trans, or the BS around being gay.

Elliot is married to a women

So if we follow translogic and say that Elliot is really a man, that means that either his wife is not gay anymore and is attracted to men.

Or

This trans people are really man/women is bollocks and you can't just poof become the opposite sex.

So which is it. Gay people are attracted to the opposite sex so a transman/women is really the opposite sex, or trans are really real man/women and gay peoples attraction can change on a whim and you can go from being gay liking the same sex to being straight likeing the opposite sex?

His wife better be getting a divorce and shacking up with a big breasted women or I call Bullshit on the whole goddamn thing.

They'll just say they are pansexual now if they stick together.

 

[Riven326]

It's religious in nature. That is why it's so anti-science.

 

[NeoGiffer]

Great guy.

 

[sobaka770]

Good for her.

She did seem to act tomboy-ish roles in her movies so I think it was only a matter of time since she decides to fully transition.

The only thing I don't know is how deadnaming works when you're such a big personality with plenty of movies made?

 

[ExpandKong]

Good for her.

TRIGGERED

She did seem to act tomboy-ish roles in her movies so I think it was only a matter of time since she decides to fully transition.

Oh I guess all tomboys are secretly trans now huh better get them on those hormone blockers it's only a matter of time right

 

[Fbh]

Nah his career is pretty much over if he decides to transition or wants to play only male roles from now on or do you see anyone from this tiny list regularly or even just know them at all:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Transgender_and_transsexual_male_actors

There is a reason why there are so few trans actors famous or not i'm not a fan of it either but i don't think he can change that .

Were any of them nearly as famous as Page before transitioning though?
As things have been until now I do think it would have been a career suicide. But given how woke media has become over the last decade and how the trend doesn't seem to be slowing down, I just think in a couple of years people will be demanding more trans roles in movies/TV

 

[sol_bad]

So ehm what does this even mean for Season 3 of Umbrella Academy is her character now trans as well or do they just cast another actress for her role? Realistically if she goes trough with this her career is probably over anyway since no one will cast her as a very feminine looking guy unless the role specifically asks for it.

They had no problem making her/his character lesbian in season 2. I'm sure they'll have no problem making the character a he instead of a she.

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

Burning my copy of TLoU as we speak.

snoyjack.jpg

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

ALSO

What is the difference between this and a butch lesbi? Fucking modern western culture cancer flesh eating virus!

 

[DragoonKain]

Here's one thing I never got from people who think gender is a "social construct" which I think is obviously and clearly not true, but many argue that.

If gender is truly a "social construct" and what we perceive as masculine and feminine things are only perceived to be that because "society conditioned us to believe that" then why do trans people make any changes to their look or body at all?

For example why would a trans man take their breasts off or a trans woman get their penis removed? Why would a trans man cut their hear short and take testosterone and dress in different clothing?

If the people who say gender is a social construct truly believe it then shouldn't those same people be comfortable walking around looking as they were born? Isn't the fact that people change themselves confirmation that these things are not social constructs and this is how different genders like to dress and how different genders look?