GymWolf
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Lol, no it was when i was very little, like 2 or 3 years old, i stumbled with a glass in my hand and somehow one piece of glass pierced my cheek.
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"Ellen" Under Investigation by WarnerMedia
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nush
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MacReady13
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True. I've heard many comedians who have had friends working on this morons show saying about how much of a bitch she is.
She will belittle the writers in front of everyone else and is extremely rude to staff. I hope she gets what's coming to her, but I know nothing will happen. She will apologize for any perceived wrongdoing and apologize if anyone felt offended. She will not suffer for this at all.
MacReady13
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Ionian
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Yeah that was a pure scumbag move.
DKehoe
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I know it's a popular show so it's good for promoting things but I'm kinda surprised that she was still able to book high profile guests after pulling something like that.
NeoGiffer
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When you watch a sports game with the second most hated president (if your left wing) you are already cancelled
Seriously ..Celebs being a cunt or a bitch is not unheard of but i can guarantee you if stuff like the above picture didnt come to light you would not be hearing a peep
Wimbledon
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Hollywood is toxic in general i'm relatively indifferent to Ellen. But I do think the culture of a business is worth discussion.
Like i remember years back me and my friends we talk about various topics but were just being funny, going at each other, talking shit etc on discord. I have a good Indian impression and i make my friends laugh a lot with that impression, and i was called out by a girl who had joined our discord and said that was racist and she was offended by that. She is Indian and white.
Now she had been in our discord for some time and we kind of get along but she had never spoken up until then but she's also not usually there when we talk about these various topics which can range from (MGTOW, social justice cancer, relationships, gaming, Memes etc). It was also the first time that someone said that I was being offensive or being racist i apologized to her, but it sucked that i had to explain the intent of what i was doing.
She had called us out a few times and it got to the point where one of my best friends confronted her about her PC policing. She had called each of us out on these jokes. We have a lot of dark humor, and because of this we rarely see her now if at all.
But my point is though most businesses do have a workplace culture that has been cultivated. I wonder sometimes if most of these situations are people being offended by the jokes, the dark humor, the overall workplace culture that they clearly don't vibe with. People who probably don't understand the context or intent of something, and take these situations the wrong way.
Like i remember years back me and my friends we talk about various topics but were just being funny, going at each other, talking shit etc on discord. I have a good Indian impression and i make my friends laugh a lot with that impression, and i was called out by a girl who had joined our discord and said that was racist and she was offended by that. She is Indian and white.
Now she had been in our discord for some time and we kind of get along but she had never spoken up until then but she's also not usually there when we talk about these various topics which can range from (MGTOW, social justice cancer, relationships, gaming, Memes etc). It was also the first time that someone said that I was being offensive or being racist i apologized to her, but it sucked that i had to explain the intent of what i was doing.
She had called us out a few times and it got to the point where one of my best friends confronted her about her PC policing. She had called each of us out on these jokes. We have a lot of dark humor, and because of this we rarely see her now if at all.
But my point is though most businesses do have a workplace culture that has been cultivated. I wonder sometimes if most of these situations are people being offended by the jokes, the dark humor, the overall workplace culture that they clearly don't vibe with. People who probably don't understand the context or intent of something, and take these situations the wrong way.
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Javthusiast
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All rich people in high positions are toxic fucks. I mean how do you thing they got there.
nush
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I had great times working (In the UK) with those new rapidly growing businesses where you were young, had money and the layers of management and corporate culture had yet to grow. It was that mix of us becoming adults and independent but also having a relaxed work atmosphere with bants, edgy humor and Jackass before the TV show existed. The joke was the ever escalating over the top offensive comments and danger you could make BUT you all knew that was the joke and if it crossed the line into showing you were actually that person it became very different. Shit gets real and you grow out of it, but damn did that give you some amazing real stories.
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buizel
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showernota
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I only knew about this from a facebook share that talked about Oprah magazine going online only and T.hanks being a Greek citizen now. 
Hopefully she gets whats coming if this turns out to be true.
Hopefully she gets whats coming if this turns out to be true.
Reptars Revenge
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Good thing Disney already removed her ride At Epcot haha. Soon to be Guardians of the galaxy
Men_in_Boxes
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Adam Carolla has been saying for years that the staffers on her show fear Ellen. Funny to see this blow up now.
MrFunSocks
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I really don't understand why people were trying to "cancel" Ellen for simply being friends with Bush, or for her lesbian prison joke. You can be friends with people that you disagree with on many things. You can also make jokes about things, and tbh I thought the joke was pretty hilarious. Just that far left "woke" crowd doing their thing.
HoodWinked
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WarnerMedia is doing this to cover for any possible lawsuits, but also its kind of absurd that there would be grounds to sue her for being a cunt.
ya shes probably a bitch but if it were so toxic why stick around, it couldn't have been that terrible otherwise.
ya shes probably a bitch but if it were so toxic why stick around, it couldn't have been that terrible otherwise.
Musky_Cheese
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Didn’t all this stuff start coming out just after she sat next to George W and wouldn’t apologize for it?
Slings and Arrows
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Eiknarf
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HahahaaBe kind to one another
Fuck that!!
#Phonepunk#
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u got to wonder how Rich Evan's childhood photograph ended up on the show
was an employee in the graphics department an RLM fan?
moose fatcat
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Living in LA and working in media, I have heard so many acquaintances/friends talk about working for Ellen and hating it. Since at least 2013 or 2014 I started hearing those rumors, around the same time I started meeting writer/media types. The cohost of My Favorite Murderer used to be the head writer at Ellen and has talked about how brutal it was there, on record I think.
It's not the same thing as Weinstein or Cosby but it's similar in the way it's covered up. The infuriating thing is it always takes 20+ victims willing to speak up before anyone is willing to listen. And in the case of Ellen, now that people finally are listening -- she and the producers either knew the place was toxic bc the turnover rate was ridiculous, and chose not to care to listen -- she's now saying she might not want to do the show anymore.
Like "yeah eh idk it's really just not worth it if I have to treat my coworkers like they're human beings when they're obviously lesser life forms, cuz I'm the boss and I'm the star, that's me on the poster and me on the TV, I'm VIP and they drink my pee so I don't have to walk to the toilet."
Every corporate boss is abusive and awful. It's what happens when you get power that's virtually unchecked. Even people who can seem nice like Cosby or Ellen can in fact be horrible monsters.
Yet we still don't really process it, and don't really confront how evident it is that we're being manipulated constantly by all media, always.
It's not the same thing as Weinstein or Cosby but it's similar in the way it's covered up. The infuriating thing is it always takes 20+ victims willing to speak up before anyone is willing to listen. And in the case of Ellen, now that people finally are listening -- she and the producers either knew the place was toxic bc the turnover rate was ridiculous, and chose not to care to listen -- she's now saying she might not want to do the show anymore.
Like "yeah eh idk it's really just not worth it if I have to treat my coworkers like they're human beings when they're obviously lesser life forms, cuz I'm the boss and I'm the star, that's me on the poster and me on the TV, I'm VIP and they drink my pee so I don't have to walk to the toilet."
Every corporate boss is abusive and awful. It's what happens when you get power that's virtually unchecked. Even people who can seem nice like Cosby or Ellen can in fact be horrible monsters.
Yet we still don't really process it, and don't really confront how evident it is that we're being manipulated constantly by all media, always.
moose fatcat
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Alright I'm not trying to be contrarian here but just to make a finer point. You can choose to get offended or not, it's not really about you so much as the point you're making.
Ellen is funny, talented and likeable. Bill Cosby, Harvey Weinstein in his way, and so on, and that's part of the problem. We can't say "All monsters have no talent" because then we're still buying into the same trap that equates talent with character. Culturally we have a hard time understanding this but — charisma is not a virtue. It's just a trait.
People who ARE likeable, talented, funny, etc, can also be abusive, toxic, manipulative, shitty. Anyone can be anything because you are defined by your actions, and everyone has the choice in any given situation to act or not act.
Zato
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I understand your point and agree that anyone labelled a "monster" is not immediately devoid of talent etc and that only unlikable people are monsters ........ I certainly did not mean for my post to make anything resembling that point as it was never the point I was trying to make.
In this instance, I have never liked Ellen in a professional sense ....... I didn't find her funny, I certainly didn't see anything that I would find as a likeable personality or anything resembling charisma.
That opinion has been held since the beginning and not only because she is being investigated now.
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Woo-Fu
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Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely. -Lord Acton
brap
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haha yes. she epicly pwns the libtards lol
showernota
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I keep getting surprised by how awful some of these celebs are looking present day. Quarantine hasn't been kind to them
Many different types of pathways to wealth. But a good percentage of them provide a product or service, sometimes creating a unique one, better than anyone else.
BadBurger
Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
But how can this be?! Don't these investigators know that Ellen DeGeneres is a true blue liberal--and a lesbian--and therefore incapable of this behavior?
WarnerMedia Investigating ‘Ellen DeGeneres Show’ for Workplace Misconduct
WarnerMedia has initiated an investigation into alleged workplace misconduct on the set of The Ellen DeGeneres Show, sources confirmed to The Hollywood Reporter.www.hollywoodreporter.com
Toxic behavior and racism? No way, Jose! This is "Ellen" we're talking about here!
I demand these investigators look elsewhere, and leave precious Ellen and her wonderful producers alone! Join me, my NeoGAF brothers and sisters, as we rally behind the wonderful "Ellen."
I'll be honest, never seen her standup or show. At least not that I can remember. I saw her show referenced numerous times though on late night TV / the news. It doesn't surprise me that a person in a position of power was creeping on others with their friends. I feel bad for the victims.
moose fatcat
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For sure. That's why I awkwardly tried my best to try to preface it that I was addressing that point & extrapolating -- not intending to put words in your mouth on you specifically or assume anything about you. Just trying to make the point. It's one thing to be like "yeah i never liked ellen/cosby/xyz" and "ellen/cosby/xyz are talentless bums anyway." It just feels like it's an incomplete thought -- culturally, it's an incomplete thought; it's a sentiment you see around sometimes. So again, sorry to sound rambling, but just trying to make the distinction.
Woody Allen is a better example, because I think most people agree he was/is talented, even if he was never your cup of tea. Or maybe Louis CK, not to bring up a powder keg, just as a comparison in terms of "canceled" comedians (and all of these examples besides Cosby are still working anyway).
I loved Louie, Woody, Cosby, and Ellen. Not equally but there was love there to them, from me, as a viewer. But the things I liked about them are in the past -- I don't need to rewatch "Himself" don't need to quote "Annie Hall" and don't feel the impulse to rewatch "Horace and Pete" or whatever.
It's basically like cutting a toxic friend out of your life, if one is a fan of whichever comedian - Chris D'Elia, Bryan Callen now -- and having to make your own personal moral judgment. But I think it's an easy one -- yeah, the times you had in the past with them were fun, but now things have changed and they have changed for the worse and we realize they were lying the whole time -- you either forgive & forget, or you say, alright well i'm out peace.
Again I hope it is clear I am not putting any of that on you specifically -- just thinking it through for myself I guess
moose fatcat
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The most common way is to already start wealthy. Most comedians who are famous, even blue collar ones or seemingly blue collar ones like Louie, come from well-to-do families. This is true of most actors, directors, writers, producers, and other creatives you've never heard of in high level positions because they had a connection.
Even new money inventors/entrepreneurs ultimately need to rely on the old money for investment.
Yes, unfortunately people who make poor decisions and are failures at life pass that on to their children, and vice versa. Single parenthood, teenage parenthood, deadbeat dads, alchohalism, all prime indicators of poverty and all much more likely to be intergenerational.
The answer isnt to stop people from investing in their kids.
moose fatcat
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The answer is to invest in all kids as if they were our own. Not even money from your pocket or mine. Money from the top used pointlessly could be used to invest in people instead of corporations. Essentially the solution is a mix of libertarianism and communism. Gov't should provide basic resources -- universal income, housing, healthcare -- there ought to be a wealth/salary/income cap where everything above a certain level simply is routed to the bottom. That's all government ought to be about. Directing the tax flow to encourage American ingenuity and prosperity. Wouldn't fix everything, but it would fix a whole hell of a lot. Anyway this is definitely drifting off topic but it's an interesting convo anyway.
Eiknarf
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I’m confused
For years I’ve read that Ellen herself was the one who was toxic and mean (yelling at staff, guests), and even last week I thought people on the show were coming out confirming it! But now it sounds like some articles (and Ellen herself) are saying it’s the staff who are toxic! Ellen is even “apologizing on their behalf”
So which/who is the problem? Is Ellen the problem or the staff?
DunDunDunpachi
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Can't it be both? Ideologues like Ellen are likely to hire the sort of corporate-office screechers that eventually get bored, start conniving, and stab you in the back. They are useful when this energy is directed outward, but eventually they start to see too many devils around and the org begins tearing itself apart.
Schrödinger's cat
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Ellen DeGeneres: Stars back TV host amid 'toxic workplace' claims
Kevin Hart and Katy Perry come to the TV host's defence, but her former DJ recalls "toxicity" on set.
www.bbc.com
Elites flocking to protect the already protected elite.
My take away from this is that:
- Ellen's guests express they encountered no issues.
- Ellen's colleagues are the ones highlighting the behavioural issues.
DunDunDunpachi
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Imagine if churches used those excuses (spoiler alert: one does not need to imagine).Ellen DeGeneres: Stars back TV host amid 'toxic workplace' claims
Kevin Hart and Katy Perry come to the TV host's defence, but her former DJ recalls "toxicity" on set.
Elites flocking to protect the already protected elite.
My take away from this is that:
Once you spot that distinction this puff-piece completely backfires.
- Ellen's guests express they encountered no issues.
- Ellen's colleagues are the ones highlighting the behavioural issues.
So you're saying Father Timothy groped your son?
Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. He needs to be held accountable.
Hmm, well the other parishioners haven't complained about groping, and the Bishop spoke very highly of Father Timothy. Are you sure?
Xenon
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It was definately after it. To me this all started after the pandemic and how she treated her staff. Then it morphed into the classic Hollywood pile on. Personally I'm tired of seeing all the B list celebs chiming in like high schoolers. But I'm sure her willingness to see the "enemy" as people isn't helping her now.
Smiles and Cries
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She always seemed like a nice guy
