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Elon Musk vs Asmongold as Elon is caught lying about his PoE2 account
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captainnapalm
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Don't forget Neuralink. And he also co-founded OpenAI - which ushered in the Large Language Model AI revolution with ChatGPT. It's insane really.
I get why people don't want to defend him - but the amount of falsehoods perpetuating about Musk online at the moment probably outweigh Trump. This meme that he's basically just a guy with money is really strong - but it just happens to be bogus.
Where the problem with Musk comes in he's definitely somewhat autistic, had an absolutely brutal childhood being bullied, and had a super tough father who pushed him hard but provided no emotional support. Not hard to see where some of his problems come from.
But for me he's easily a net positive for society - even setting aside all his companies, which all do good things - he's also the only major figure who speaks out against wokeness and the damage it's doing to western civilization. And his decision to buy Twitter was hugely important because it released the stranglehold of censorship that was beginning to emerge between governments and Silicon Valley. Zuckerberg just recently announced he was ditching fake "fact-checkers" on all his social media platforms in favour of Community Notes - so no more top-down government-enforced censorship on Facebook and Instagram. That doesn't happen without Musk either. And he had to take massive heat for that.
Lukaku's First Touch
Member
Correct, he just got the money and his engineers do all the heavy lifting while he's busy talking bullshit on the internet.
The artful mincer
Member
Being the richest man in the world and being the best business man in world aren't the same thing. A bunch of people on here seem unaware of how elons amassed his wealth so here's the cliff notes.
The vast majority of Elons wealth is in Tesla shares. He has about 20% of tesla shares. Tesla is nearly always in the top 10 most valuable companies in the world.
companiesmarketcap.com
However while tesla has become a very successful company they are seriously overvalued. In revenue they barely make the top 50.
companiesmarketcap.com
In profit they barely make the top 150
companiesmarketcap.com
If Elon Musk is good at one thing its self promotion and hype. Tesla valuation is based on pure Hype and BS. E.g. FSD, 40k Cybertruck, Floating Roadster, 20 million cars a year by 2030 etc etc.
If it was based on actual business metrics it's valuation would be 10 times smaller
The vast majority of Elons wealth is in Tesla shares. He has about 20% of tesla shares. Tesla is nearly always in the top 10 most valuable companies in the world.
Companies ranked by Market Cap - CompaniesMarketCap.com
Ranking the world's top companies by market cap, market value, revenue and many more metrics
companiesmarketcap.com
However while tesla has become a very successful company they are seriously overvalued. In revenue they barely make the top 50.
Companies ranked by revenue - CompaniesMarketCap.com
Ranking of the world's top publicly traded stock companies by revenue (TTM)
companiesmarketcap.com
In profit they barely make the top 150
Companies ranked by earnings - page 2
Ranking of the world's top publicly traded stock companies by earnings (TTM)
companiesmarketcap.com
If Elon Musk is good at one thing its self promotion and hype. Tesla valuation is based on pure Hype and BS. E.g. FSD, 40k Cybertruck, Floating Roadster, 20 million cars a year by 2030 etc etc.
If it was based on actual business metrics it's valuation would be 10 times smaller
GigaBowser
The bear of bad news
dont care bout no assmongold and this crud game Elon wants to kill woke me must support him
nowhat
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MMaRsu
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Dick Jones
Banned
Elon went to a pedophile's home after Epstein was convicted. Why are we giving this type of person oxygen? Anyone dismissing it, would you go to a convicted pedophile's home?
www.newsweek.com
Fact Check: Did Elon Musk visit Jeffrey Epstein after release from prison?
Musk is said to have met the disgraced financier after Epstein served time for a child prostitution charge.
www.newsweek.com
GigaBowser
The bear of bad news
purple forum ln tears about musk ahah
Unknown Soldier
Member
Zathalus
Member
He does not. I think it’s a persona or act of some sort. Plenty of tools exist that can enhance your grammar or spelling if it’s really that bad.
proandrad
Member
This is so embarrassing. Shouldn't he be getting ready to run a country he just bought? He cares too much about gamer cred.
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Forsete
Member
How much did it cost him?
Pegasus Actual
Gold Member
Pair this with her complaining that he wasn't letting her see their kids and god damn, gotta respect the way Elon plays hardball
this is false. Goblin Inc aka AceOfSpades was the first druid to clear tier 25, and Elon just copied it -- correction, he had his booster copy the build
This post has big reddit energy.It's a said state of affairs when I cannot even go to a website dedicated to gaming and not read about this jerk off or one of the companies that he took over. And, just so everyone has it, here is the photo he had removed from the internet.
It's possible to dislike both of these things at once.
Hudo
Gold Member
I actually thought of MySpace when I saw it.
“Four hours of supervised visitation with Lil X if you tell everyone I’m the best Diablo player in the world”Pair this with her complaining that he wasn't letting her see their kids and god damn, gotta respect the way Elon plays hardball
LegendOfKage
Member
Elon Musk has now deleted his tweets about Asmongold. The content creator Upper Echelon did an extensive video on the topic as well.
realcool
Member
Mr Moose
Gold Member
Their YouTube/Twitter account says Italy.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
I think most of us could see this coming. I like Elon. I even have a Tesla, but it's been obvious that he's clearly bought Twitter to control speech and dominate the conversation.
Not sure why or how so many people have followed him when it comes to anything not engineering related. The dude is a social justice whore and a rage baiter.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
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NoLootBoxDev
Member
Some time ago when I went to Twitter (I won't call it X), the first shit I saw was posts of Elon, with all the junk and disinformation he spits, I blocked the POS, and many of those crazy people who try to sanitize the crazy people.
There is nothing Elon created, everything was purchased, and he sells it like he was the man behind everything, nothing more than a conman-child.
There is nothing Elon created, everything was purchased, and he sells it like he was the man behind everything, nothing more than a conman-child.
BattleScar
Member
I remember getting a bunch of people on this forum coping when people questioned Elon's gaming credentials, because "Erm achktually, he has a very high IQ and he can multitask, play games to top 10 level, 'run' 3 billion dollar companies and tweet all day every day at the same time".
At the end of the day, he's just a man who made some wise investments, who started believing his own "IRL Tony Stark" hype and is presently making a fool of himself, while attempting to make the US an oligarchy under his thumb.
Sycophants everywhere with this guy. Honestly can't wait for the curtain to finally fall on this farce.
At the end of the day, he's just a man who made some wise investments, who started believing his own "IRL Tony Stark" hype and is presently making a fool of himself, while attempting to make the US an oligarchy under his thumb.
Sycophants everywhere with this guy. Honestly can't wait for the curtain to finally fall on this farce.
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Pegasus Actual
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Thanks Grok!
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DJTaurus
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Elon went to a pedophile's home after Epstein was convicted. Why are we giving this type of person oxygen? Anyone dismissing it, would you go to a convicted pedophile's home?
Fact Check: Did Elon Musk visit Jeffrey Epstein after release from prison?
Musk is said to have met the disgraced financier after Epstein served time for a child prostitution charge.
For gods shake whoever went to Epsteins / diddys parties and houses is not a pedo.
Elon went to a pedophile's home after Epstein was convicted. Why are we giving this type of person oxygen? Anyone dismissing it, would you go to a convicted pedophile's home?
Fact Check: Did Elon Musk visit Jeffrey Epstein after release from prison?
Musk is said to have met the disgraced financier after Epstein served time for a child prostitution charge.
Epstein said his best friend was Donald Trump yet there are plenty of people here who don't care about that either. I dislike woke stuff like many here do but I will never understand championing Musk and Trump.
Dick Jones
Banned
Who here hasn't turned up to a pedos home after his conviction for a private matter? /s
Aces High
Member
People see Musk as a front man of a counter elite.
We're in the endgame of dept-driven capitalism. The West is changing. Musk is elite. But just like Trump, he was not part of the establishment in control. So Musk started to challenge the status quo.
People liked that for different reasons. Some just want to be anti-establishment. It's just what they always do. Others support counter movements strategically because they want to avert dangerous concentrations of power. Like with gaming business: Sony in challenger mode (PS4) is cool for gamers. Sony in dominator role (PS5) sucks. Valve is always in challenger mode. That's why people love them even when they fuck things up big like loot box gambling for minors.
No matter the motivation, in the end the hive mind tends to root for the underdog. Humans are social animals. Our subconscious preference for challengers keeps us save. We don't want to be controlled. Divide and conquer, but from the bottom up. You can see that in so many manifestations: pendulum swings in political views, self-victimization to get influence, etc. That's why deep states are created. The first thing a new government does is to get as much of their followers into official positions as possible so part of the power can be kept even after political changes.
Musk is now in a position where he can change the status quo. His power has grown. And those who supported him are now driven away subconsciously. They want him to kick establishment asses, but they don't want him to become too powerful. And so they look at ridiculous things like his gaming skills as a reason to hate him.
People are stupid often. I am. You are. Musk is as well. That's human. But that doesn't make us bad people. Being pragmatic and free of any ideology is probably the best way to handle life. So instead of looking at Diablo leaderboards, people should ask themselves: is this guy useful for me or not?
Cyberpunkd
Member
Because Americans love to worship rich people.
pudel
Member
Thats not an exclusive american problem. Happens everywhere. Bootlickers to rich people is what flies are to a pile of shit.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
How are billionaires not part of the establishment? Billionaires are a direct result of the establishment and the status quo. Why would they want to challenge the system that made them billionaires?
Guilty_AI
Gold Member
Because money by itself doesn't give you enough power. There's a huge difference between a guy who is rich controlling gigantic international restaurant chains and someone who is rich by dealing with oil.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
A billion dollars buys you quite a lot of influence. Money is power.
Guilty_AI
Gold Member
Money is a form of power but not the be all, end all of it. It doesn't matter how many more yatchs you can buy than a potential opponent if the latter can influence the government to effectively turn your business illegal through new legislation.
LegendOfKage
Member
The whole internet, you say?It's a said state of affairs when I cannot even go to a website dedicated to gaming and not read about this jerk off or one of the companies that he took over. And, just so everyone has it, here is the photo he had removed from the internet.
realcool
Member
So you believe Epstein is not guilty?
Kings Field
Member
I don't have anything bad to say about a man who gave me $300 to sign an online petition. 
BattleScar
Member
The answer to that question is unequivocally, "No".
He doesn't give a shit about any of the "counter culture" bullshit in as far as it enables him to get more power and money for himself. He's grifting people who are overly triggered by "woke". That's it.
Chuck Berry
Gold Member
I believe my girl Grimes
www.forbes.com
Grimes Vouches For Elon Musk's ‘Diablo 4’ Records, Doubts ‘Path Of Exile 2’ Claims
In the latest incredibly goofy turn of Elon Musk being accused of cheating at video games, he’s now being defended by an unlikely source, his ex-girlfriend.
www.forbes.com
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Are you saying that someone with more money has less ability to buy off and influence people in power?
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
It keeps on going
Guilty_AI
Gold Member
How do you think these government backdeals work? That all the rich people get together and bid each other off to see who can give out more pocket money? A media conglomerate that can help with campaigns and cover up potential scandals will obviously have more "buying" power than some restaurant chain, no matter how much richer the latter may be.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
I'm not sure what the whole restaurant chain angle is, but a billion dollars of buying power is the same, no matter where it comes from.
Guilty_AI
Gold Member
A billion dollars of buying power is useless if you're opposing someone who can freeze all of your bank accounts and pin random crimes on you. This idea money is everything that matters for those in power is ridiculously short-sighted.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
I don't think I'm being short sighted here. You're really underestimating just how much power billionaires have. Your argument works for millionaires, but not multi billionaires. You don't think billionaires can influence people in power who could hypothetically freeze bank accounts or pin crimes on you?
This tangent is going way off from what my original question was, BTW.
Guilty_AI
Gold Member
Zhang Yiming is worth 45 billion dollars and he almost got royaly fucked by a bunch of congressman. Tell me again how much a pile of money is everything that matters.
You think there are no non-billionaires who can do that to you? Try catching the bad eye of a judge in a relatively high position, Trump had to literally become the POTUS to escape one, didn't matter how many billions he had.
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