Hudo
Gold Member
If you're referring to the whole Habeck thing, the police had a search warrant for the guy before he called him an idiot.
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Elon Musk vs Asmongold as Elon is caught lying about his PoE2 account
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chilichote
Member
Nope^^
MMaRsu
Member
There is some real gusto behind that "gesture".
Maybe this was his way of getting people off his back about faking the gaming cred.
Stretched hand? To me, as a Dutch man, having seen plenty of morons make this gesture, it seems like the salute.
Not saying he is in fact a nazi, but it just dumb to make this gesture, regardless of what's behind it.
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nemiroff
Gold Member
Not.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Elon’s a piece of shit scumbag no doubt. The problem is he’s the wealthiest person on the planet and controls freedom of speech, narratives, etc on a very large social media platform that he owns. Just like Zuckerbot.
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SmokedMeat
Gamer™
He always escapes because he has the money to fight and delay. He also has the power from taking over the entire Republican Party, which has allowed him to set the loyalists only dinner table to his liking.
You’re making the case as though there’s a single justice system for everyone.
SaucyJack
Member
ManaByte is correct, the audio of one of the initially viral clips is edited to misrepresent the context. Elon says “my heart goes out to you” in the real footage as he performs the…awkward gesture.
The ADL doesn’t see it intended as a Nazi salute.
Exactly. It’s quite clear from the original footage that this is not a nazi salute.
When I saw the headline on a couple of sites I just thought notto disu shitto agen. The world does not need four more years of this crap.
ManaByte
Gold Member
I discovered this morning it's probably the best idea to maintain sanity to not even look at Reddit for the next four years.
Guilty_AI
Gold Member
I'm literally saying the justice and lawmaking systems are as much tools of power as money and everything else. This includes subverting them for personal and political interests in case that wasn't clear enough.
And no, money isn't the only thing that controls it. Especially when you take things outside of the US.
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Tams
Member
You can.
I think I'll trust DW on this:
Germany: Greens' Habeck presses charges over online insult – DW – 11/15/2024
Deputy Chancellor Robert Habeck has pressed charges against a man who posted a picture of him with a derogatory caption online. Investigators also accuse the suspect of publishing Nazi images and slogans.
www.dw.com
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Aion002
Member
Fun fact:
There's no record of such salute ever existing during the Roman Empire... Jacques-Louis David a french artist made the painting The Oath of the Horatii (1784) and that's the origin of the salute as we know.
Another fact:
Grandchildren of nazi enthusiasts, that also has ties with the AfD (basically a new nazi party) does a similar salute used by the nazis...
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Aces High
Member
In Germany, there are three stages for insulting:
§ 185 StGB: This is for insults of regular people.
§ 188 StGB: This is a harsher law for insults of politicians.
§ 90 StGB: This is a very harsh law for insults of the German President (not chancellor).
You can already go to jail for § 185, but fines are more common.
§ 185 StGB: This is for insults of regular people.
§ 188 StGB: This is a harsher law for insults of politicians.
§ 90 StGB: This is a very harsh law for insults of the German President (not chancellor).
You can already go to jail for § 185, but fines are more common.
pudel
Member
Which is basically against the constitution which says "everyone is equal before the law".
Hudo
Gold Member
Well, I was talking about if you call a random dude an idiot.You can.
I think I'll trust DW on this:
Germany: Greens' Habeck presses charges over online insult – DW – 11/15/2024
Deputy Chancellor Robert Habeck has pressed charges against a man who posted a picture of him with a derogatory caption online. Investigators also accuse the suspect of publishing Nazi images and slogans.
Aces High
Member
Calling AfD a Nazi party is not correct in my opinion.
As a German who has to elect a new government in February, I'm studying the election programs of the different parties very carefully. I've read the entire 85 page programm of the AfD for the 2025 elections. Every single page. And there's not a single line in there that allows the conclusion that AfD is a Nazi party.
I recommed you check the following parts of the program:
Page 61, line 2256: "Take a firm stand against violence and extremism. The AfD acknowledges the anti-totalitarian founding consensus of the Federal Republic of Germany. A militant democracy must defend itself against its enemies—regardless of their origins. This applies to right-wing extremism as well as left-wing extremism and religious extremism, which is mostly Islamist in nature."
Page 63, line 2324: "Jewish life in Germany is primarily threatened by anti-Jewish and anti-Israeli Muslims. Attacks on Jews and anti-Semitic insults must be consistently prosecuted under criminal law. The Al-Quds Day events in Berlin, where demonstrators call for the destruction of Israel, must be permanently banned."
Page 67, line 2444: "Fundamental right to freedom of expression – no censorship in public debate."
Page 67, line 2463: "Guarantee the separation of powers."
Page 69, line 2550: "Ensure protection of whistleblowers."
I don't know, man. Doesn't sound very Nazi to me.
There's a part about remigration. But in contrast to what mainstream media says, the program clearly distinguishes between work migration from inside the EU, work migration from outside EU, and asylum seeking.
Remigration only applies to asylum seekers if they do criminal acts or refuse to integrate (don't learn language, don't work).
Work migration should be supported:
Page 58, line 2117: "Encouraging the immigration of qualified professionals"
Maybe read the program first and listen less to mainstream media outlets.
Aion002
Member
"If there's a Nazi at the table and 10 other people sitting there talking to him, then you got a table with 11 Nazis."
Aces High
Member
With this reasoning, CDU (Merkel's party) was a Nazi party for decades. It is very well documented how it became a save haven for NSDAP members.
"If there's a Nazi at the table and 10 other people sitting there talking to him, then you got a table with 11 Nazis."
Nancy Faeser (SPD), German Federal Minister of the Interior, wrote an article for Antifa shortly before taking office.
Robert Habeck (Greens), German Vice Chancellor and Federal Minister of Economic Affairs, wrote the foreword for the German version of The Activist Manifesto by Portnoy and Young, which is "an update" of the Communist Manifesto by Marx and Engels.
Claudia Roth (Greens), German Federal Minister of Culture and Media, supported Antifa demos.
Please pardon my whataboutism, but I think it's not okay to apply double standards based on personal views. Germany has a Nazi past. But Germany also has a communist past. The GDR was a communist state under soviet control. They had to build a wall to stop people fleeing towards the US-controlled West Germany. I know that many young people and students have a strong opinion on this one, but left wing extremism is no joke. Watch the videos. They had barbed wire and shot people in the back because they wanted to escape the communist hellhole.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
People REALLY think that had anything to do with being a Nazi?
I say this thread needs to get back on topic or just shut it down
I say this thread needs to get back on topic or just shut it down
Tams
Member
"If there's a Nazi at the table and 10 other people sitting there talking to him, then you got a table with 11 Nazis."
Replace 'Nazi' in that, and you'll see how utterly stupid that quote is.
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
He didn’t need to hold his fingers together like that… but hey the aclu are the experts. I’ll trust their judgement.
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ChorizoPicozo
Member
Twitter exploded last night. but i couldn't see the entire video, just clips.
It's seems Elon was acting like over enthusiastic autistic dork boy
It's seems Elon was acting like over enthusiastic autistic dork boy
His booster is probably an AI that plays the game. He forgot to turn it off.
Aion002
Member
My views are: Nazism is an atrocity and whoever defends that or sugar coats it is a horrible evil person, while communism is a broken attractive idea that was and is used to control the population and remove the individuality of human beings.
Communism attracts idealists that lack the capacity to understand how flawed the system is and how evil those in power were/are.
Anyway, I don’t think the Afd program should be used as way to say if they are or arent nazis enthusiasts, their actions are what really matters. After all, for example, on paper communism also seems nice, while the reality is far from it.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
For sure an odd creature and maybe he is just so happy that we might plant a flag on Mars he might get trip to return home
Guardian Monkey
Member
Elon Musk admits account-boosting on PoE2 and Diablo 4 but says deal with it: 'What would I be apologizing for?'
Used his IRL loot button.
As regards account boosting, Musk says "It's impossible to beat the players in Asia if you don't, as they do!" OK. Asked whether he intended to take credit for having a high level hardcore character in PoE2 Musk says "No. Never claimed that. The top accounts in Diablo or PoE require multiple people playing the account to win a leveling race."
well there it is.
Lunarorbit
Member
The goal post moving is so sad to see on this site. His account was active when he was on TV during the inauguration. He's a cheater.
If Hakoom can be badgered into retiring from PSN this hack should have his account banned. He uses it has part of his street cred
If Hakoom can be badgered into retiring from PSN this hack should have his account banned. He uses it has part of his street cred
pudel
Member
He is basically accusing all top players in D4 and POE of cheating. I mean...yeah, why not!
pudel
Member
I cant speak for D4, but in POE lots of top players are streaming....its very hard to cheat as everyone and his mother keeps an eye on the ladder. And if you get caught for account sharing...you get banned.
Sry this is highly political but that's bullshit. You currently don't get closer of being a Nazi party. The afd led by right extremists with many, many similarities to the npd party back then. History repeats while humans get more and more dump.
chilichote
Member
That's Reality:You can.
I think I'll trust DW on this:
Germany: Greens' Habeck presses charges over online insult – DW – 11/15/2024
Deputy Chancellor Robert Habeck has pressed charges against a man who posted a picture of him with a derogatory caption online. Investigators also accuse the suspect of publishing Nazi images and slogans.
"Schwachkopf"-Beleidigung : Durchsuchung war bereits vor Anzeige von Robert Habeck geplant
Ein Mann soll Robert Habeck im Netz als "Schwachkopf" beleidigt haben. Dass die Polizei dann die Wohnung des Verdächtigen durchsuchte, führte bei einigen zu Verwunderung.
www.zeit.de
Robert Habeck: Razzia bei Rentner war vor Strafantrag geplant
Ein Mann soll Wirtschaftsminister Habeck im Internet beleidigt haben. Dass daraufhin die Polizei eine Hausdurchsuchung bei ihm durchführte, sorgte für Aufregung. Jetzt liefert die Staatsanwaltschaft Erklärungen.
www.spiegel.de
The house search had absolutely nothing to do with the insult. But yes, in principle everyone has the right to take legal action against insults. But no one will go to prison for it.
chilichote
Member
Listen to Weidel, Krah and especially Höcke.
But what is even more interesting is that the AfD has adopted the "remigration" concept from a well-known Nazi from Austria, with whom the party met last year. Pretending that they are not Nazis trivializes their intentions.
AfD embraces mass deportation of migrants as German election nears
During a party conference Alice Weidel publicly endorsed the mass "return" or deportation of people with a migrant background.
www.bbc.com
gunslikewhoa
Member
Aces High
Member
Yeah, there are new information on that case:That's Reality:
"Schwachkopf"-Beleidigung : Durchsuchung war bereits vor Anzeige von Robert Habeck geplant
Ein Mann soll Robert Habeck im Netz als "Schwachkopf" beleidigt haben. Dass die Polizei dann die Wohnung des Verdächtigen durchsuchte, führte bei einigen zu Verwunderung.
Robert Habeck: Razzia bei Rentner war vor Strafantrag geplant
Ein Mann soll Wirtschaftsminister Habeck im Internet beleidigt haben. Dass daraufhin die Polizei eine Hausdurchsuchung bei ihm durchführte, sorgte für Aufregung. Jetzt liefert die Staatsanwaltschaft Erklärungen.
The house search had absolutely nothing to do with the insult. But yes, in principle everyone has the right to take legal action against insults. But no one will go to prison for it.
Falschaussage im Fall „Schwachkopf“?: Rentner verklagt Grünen-Chef Banaszak
Ein Rentner bezeichnet Habeck als „Schwachkopf“ – es folgt eine Hausdurchsuchung. Grünen-Chef Banaszak sagt später, dies sei nicht der einzige Grund gewesen. Eine Falschaussage?
www.tagesspiegel.de
This is from 4 hours ago.
Looks like Habeck's Green party lied about the case.
The public prosecutor only refers to § 185 and § 188, which is insult.
Aces High
Member
As I said in my comment earlier:Listen to Weidel, Krah and especially Höcke.
But what is even more interesting is that the AfD has adopted the "remigration" concept from a well-known Nazi from Austria, with whom the party met last year. Pretending that they are not Nazis trivializes their intentions.
AfD embraces mass deportation of migrants as German election nears
During a party conference Alice Weidel publicly endorsed the mass "return" or deportation of people with a migrant background.
In contrast to what mainstream media claims, AFD distinguishes very clearly between work migration from EU countries, work migration from non-EU countries, and asylum seekers in their election program.
And I'm baffled about your comment because you reacted to my comment with a laughing emoji. But now I think you didn't even read it.
AFD's concept of remigration only applies to asylum seekers whoare illegal in Germany , who are involved in criminal acts, or who refuse to integrate within a given time frame (don't learn language, don't work).
AFD writes in their program that work migration should be supported, especially in the STEM fields.
Page 58, line 2117: "Encouraging the immigration of qualified professionals"
The BBC article you just linked doesn't even quote the AFD election program 2025 that got publisher during the party's event. Instead it lists statements from a guy who neither is a member of the AFD, nor was he at the event.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Not in PoE. There are ways to verify gameplay.