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[Illucio]

The party of Lincoln you guys.

Well I mean Lincoln cheated his way into office....

He made it so army troops could vote, but when they went to vote their commanding officer would be standing in front of the line saying you can vote for a pig or Lincoln. And then would announce who they voted for. If the troops didn't vote Lincoln they were put into the front lines and were most likely to die.

 

[Ekai]

?????????

Is this even a question?!? Yes as a core tenant of democracy having as many citizens vote as possible is the goal.

Given USC-fan seems to support the fascism that is Trump, they're probably perfectly alright with minorities not having a voice in the system.

 

[zethren]

November 8th should be a national holiday. Period.
Early voting should be made readily accessible for all registered Americans. Period.

when people always vote against you. Why would you make it easier for people to vote against you?

How about you adjust your platform and party to appeal to a larger variety of Americans, if you're aware enough that enough voters don't like what you stand for? I thought they were all about the market deciding the value of a good/service? If the market is showing that the Republicans are less and less attractive as a leadership party, should they not then have to adjust their platform or die out completely?

Instead they manipulate voting and do all they can to prevent other people from using their voice. It is patently wrong.

edit: Also seems the debate on having voting open on sunday was because worker would miss church.

Bullshit.

They are volunteers. Nobody is forcing them to work on Sunday.

 

[jmood88]

Yeah and water's wet. Not surprised because the less people that vote means Republicans have a better chance of winning.

No one is asking you to be surprised. We already knew what republicans had done and what their plans were, we are just now seeing what the exact discussions were.

 

[gutter_trash]

the electoral process should be removed from States and given to an independent non-partisan body

the idea of having partisan Governors having the power to fuck shit up is insane

 

[DrArchon]

But guys! There's so much voter fraud happening! We have to crack down on voter fraud! If people have a harder time voting, then logically they'd have an even harder time voting twice! And the dead people would have a harder time voting too! It makes perfect sense really.

 

[LegendofJoe]

November 8th should be a national holiday. Period.
Early voting should be made readily accessible for all registered Americans. Period.



How about you adjust your platform and party to appeal to a larger variety of Americans, if you're aware enough that enough voters don't like what you stand for? I thought they were all about the market deciding the value of a good/service? If the market is showing that the Republicans are less and less attractive as a leadership party, should they not then have to adjust their platform or die out completely?

Instead they manipulate voting and do all they can to prevent other people from using their voice. It is patently wrong.



Bullshit.

They are volunteers. Nobody is forcing them to work on Sunday.

The best solution I've heard is to make Veterans Day pull double duty and hold the election then. Campaign on making it a true celebration of the sacrifices made by our soldiers by performing our duty as citizens of this country.

 

[zethren]

That doesn't really help hourly workers.

Even in the shittiest retail job I worked, we still were given the day off and paid on July 4th and Christmas Day for a day's work. Make November 8th a paid national holiday for all employed Americans.

If they choose to use that day to vote or not, that's their right.

 

[IamDodongo]

Really hoping we can oust NC's backwards-ass government.

I voted yesterday

 

[Dai101]

how about trying to be inclusive with minorities for a change?

 

[jett]

I can't understand how a democracy can allow a major party to lobby or even regulate to have FEWER people being able to vote.

That's the most anti democratic shit ever.

Get it together america.

It'll get it together when the dems and the repubs stop being the two ruling parties of the nation.

So never.

 

[mclem]

The party of Lincoln you guys.

I'm somewhat surprised that isn't turned around as "No, the party of Nixon". It's got the same cadence, works as a soundbite, and highlights the Southern Strategy aspect of the modern party, which Lincoln would absolutely have no truck with.

 

[Breads]

Guilford's plan also included one restriction that particularly angered Democrats. In the first week of early voting in 2012, residents could vote at 16 sites. This year, that has been reduced to one.

Would be 0 if they had their way.

Well... more of their way than they already have.

Fuck.

 

[badcrumble]

Shaking my head at every awful well-meaning liberal who donated to help the North Carolina state GOP rebuild their headquarters. Don't support those people. They're monsters.

 

[SeanTSC]

Yet another reason we should nationally switch to OR/WA/CO's system of mail-in ballots only. It costs the states less to run, it's easier, and it increases voter participation - especially in minorities (and the left). You get your ballots weeks early and have plenty of time to fill them out and send them in or drop them off at designated places and you get a hefty voters guide detailing everything out for your specific county.

Unfortunately, that's why the GoP doesn't want it and lobbies hard against it, despite it saving the government money (fucking hypocrits).

 

[Vicetrailia]

Yet another reason we should nationally switch to OR/WA/CO's system of mail-in ballots only. It costs the states less to run, it's easier, and it increases voter participation - especially in minorities (and the left). You get your ballots weeks early and have plenty of time to fill them out and send them in or drop them off at designated places and you get a hefty voters guide detailing everything out for your specific county.

Unfortunately, that's why the GoP doesn't want it and lobbies hard against it, despite it saving the government money (fucking hypocrits).

At no direct costs to mail it in right?

We won't have online voting not because of security, but because of Republicans.

NC doesn't even have online voter registration submittal (you still have to print and mail it in if you do the online templates).

Republicans stay useless.

 

[Haunted]

America pls

The party that cries about rigging and stealing do it themselves and their supporters are too entrenched to see the obvious double standard on display.

Shameful.

 

[Matty77]

I'm not sure what surprises me the least?

That america's shitbag party is trying to suppress black voters, or that it's NC that's already been in the news for this not just for this sort of thing, but a lot of it is.

Are they the bottom of the deplorable bucket?

 

[Vicetrailia]

America pls

The party that cries about rigging and stealing do it themselves and their supporters are too entrenched to see the obvious double standard on display.

Shameful.

It's like this for everything that Republicans do. Everything.

 

[Ithil]

Time and time again, consistently, they aim to lower the amount of voting that happens. How democratic.

 

[Socreges]

America pls

The party that cries about rigging and stealing do it themselves and their supporters are too entrenched to see the obvious double standard on display.

Shameful.

The way that people receive their information, left and right included, doesn't help. Contradictory information is filtered out because people find it unpleasant so eg Republicans will never hear about things like this.

 

[ShadowkillXNA]

America pls

The party that cries about rigging and stealing do it themselves and their supporters are too entrenched to see the obvious double standard on display.

Shameful.

They see the double standard. They just dont care, because their side winning is the only thing that matters to them.

 

[HK-47]

early voting numbers are hugely down compared to 2008 and 2012 i believe. right now the polling is about even which is far worse than expected for democrats.

That not what I've been seeing in PoliGAF.

 

[zelas]

Just 7,916 people voted in the first week of early voting in Guilford this year, compared to 60,732 in 2012, according to state elections board records.

Democrats let this happen. Why dont people fucking understand that midterms matter? How can your President of choice do anything while you let these assholes run wild?

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

See, this is what a rigged system looks like.

 

[Man Called Aerodynamics]

There's no defending Republicans anymore. If you vote Republican, I just assume you're a horrible person and likely a bigot. You get no benefit of the doubt.

This. They're obviously, nakedly doing whatever they can to disenfranchise minorities. No matter what candidates you prefer, this is sickening and it absolutely has no place in our democracy.

 

[kaching]

when people always vote against you. Why would you make it easier for people to vote against you?

Yeah, wouldn't want to actually do anything that'd make people want to vote for you in the first place...just suppress the vote and ignore the part about being a "public servant".

 

[NeOak]

That not what I've been seeing in PoliGAF.

Doesn't he mean for NC?

 

[SparkleMotion]

Fry from Futurama "I'm shocked. Shocked!...well, not that shocked" gif

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

Doesn't he mean for NC?

Yeah, it was down because of 1 early voting location being open, which isn't the case anymore.

 

[Gordon Shumway]

A republican in Alabama just said that making voting harder to do is what MLK, Rosa Parks, and others would have wanted

I don't even believe you. I do, but I don't..

 

[DragonSworne]

A party that relies on one demographic of the population and also relies on limiting voting seems like a party that is destined to crumble.

 

[AndyD]

I can't understand how a democracy can allow a major party to lobby or even regulate to have FEWER people being able to vote.

That's the most anti democratic shit ever.

Get it together america.

It's because elections are run by states/counties, so they are at the whim of the local elected officials.

 

[Fragamemnon]

early voting numbers are hugely down compared to 2008 and 2012 i believe. right now the polling is about even which is far worse than expected for democrats.

Trump is getting rocked in the cities, which are (exception of Guilford, and that'll catch up by the time early voting ends) not going to vote for Trump. The big NC cities aren't going to look like the blue-purple mixes this time around-they are going to look more like what we've seen in the last eight years in Northern Virginia.

I mean, I could go canvassing here in Durham county this weekend but we'd all be trying to find the ten people who haven't voted yet.

 

[Ithil]

when people always vote against you. Why would you make it easier for people to vote against you?

Maybe they always vote against you because you keep doing shit like this to keep them suppressed.

 

[zelas]

This disenfranchising has certainly had an effect.

Old North State Politics via Asma Khalid of NPR:

Of these 2.3 million accepted ballots, 94 percent are coming from in-person ballots.

Of the party registration break down on the total accepted ballots, registered Democrats are 43 percent of the accepted absentee ballots, with 32 percent from registered Republicans and 25 percent from registered unaffiliated voters:

Overall, the total accepted in-person absentee ballots are running 15 percent ahead, continuing to build up. Registered Democrats are now only one percent behind their 2012 total numbers from the same day in 2012, while registered Republicans are 20 percent ahead of their numbers and registered unaffiliated voters are 46 percent ahead, continuing to increase their percentages.

The daily party registration break down for the last week of early voting is:

In terms of the racial composition of accepted in-person ballots, whites continue to dominate:

The racial composition by parties reveals stark differences among the different voting groups using in-person ballots:

If you compare the 2012 daily cumulative numbers to this year's in terms of race, you see the advantage being developed by white voters this year in the accepted in-person absentee balloting:

...

And the percentage changes from 2012's same day totals to this year's same day totals by race:

TLR:

Currently, white voters are 24 percent ahead of their 2012 same-day cumulative totals, while black voters are down 11 percent and all other races combined are up 52 percent. Black voters are making steady headway in eating into their deficit compared to 2012, but with three days to go, the question will be can they make up more ground, or does the Clinton campaign shift its ground game strategy to getting more black voters to show up on Election Day, something that in 2012 black voters did not do necessarily.

Lots more data on his site.

 

[rokkerkory]

the only way to win is to cheat

 

[PlayALLtheGames]

I can't understand how a democracy can allow a major party to lobby or even regulate to have FEWER people being able to vote.

That's the most anti democratic shit ever.

Get it together america.

It's not America, it's Republicans. The right-wingers in this country are a fucking disease.

 

[Foffy]

Is it fair to say that per the emails, acting "in the best interest of the Republican Party" is, in fact, acting against the interests of the country?

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

Is it fair to say that per the emails, acting "in the best interest of the Republican Party" is, in fact, acting against the interests of the country?

Yes, of course, they're out there trying to silence the voice of the people.

 

[gruenel]

North Carolina Is Engaging in “Insane” Jim Crow–Style Voter Suppression, Says Federal Judge

U.S. District Judge Loretta Biggs slammed an ongoing North Carolinian voter purge during a dramatic Wednesday hearing, telling county attorneys that she was “horrified” by the “insane” process by which voters could be removed from the rolls without their knowledge. “It almost looks like a cattle call, the way people are being purged,” Biggs said. “This sounds like something that was put together in 1901,” when the state used Jim Crow laws to prevent black citizens from casting a ballot.

Biggs called a hearing after the NAACP sued several North Carolina counties for purging nearly 6,700 voters—most of them black Democrats—from the rolls. These purges were legal under a state law that permits any person to revoke any other person’s voting rights. The process is simple: An individual gathers mail that was returned as undeliverable, then challenges the voter registration of residents at those addresses. If those voters do not appear at a county board of elections or return a notarized form, their voting rights are nullified.

Absolutely infuriating.

 

[Not]

"Create logistical difficulties" like letting black people vote

I'm starting to hate these people almost as much as I hate, say, honor-killers. The gap is narrowing much like the actual election results.

A party that relies on one demographic of the population and also relies on limiting voting seems like a party that is destined to crumble.

Not soon enough.

 

[Thequietone]

Hillary needs to run ads about this in black cities to get black people to come out and vote. I hear the turnout among African Americans has been low this year.

That's actually because the Republicans were stalling the implementation of polling places to be opened in African American neighborhoods in North Carolina. Now that they finally opened polling places the numbers are on track with 2012 numbers.

 

[ezrarh]

Goes to show, it's a continuous struggle for equal rights. Very rarely in history have those in power ever willingly and easily let go of their advantages. Really hate to consider another political party in our democracy the enemy but it might be the right word.

 

[Log4Girlz]

The party of Lincoln you guys.

 

[Angelus Errare]

There has to be legal consequences for this behavior.

It probably would be if apathetic America were actually vocal about the issue instead of being fine because it doesn't happen to them.

 

[Alucard725]

Republicans are absolute filth. They have no interest in governing. Sure wish Obama hadn't wasted so much time and energy trying to work with them.

 

[Link]

North Carolina Is Engaging in “Insane” Jim Crow–Style Voter Suppression, Says Federal Judge



Absolutely infuriating.

I'll just repeat myself from another thread:

The biggest issue is that Republicans know all these court orders, hearings, etc. take a lot of time. By the time their legislation is reversed, they've already taken advantage of it.

Rinse, repeat.

 

[JHoNNy1OoO]

I'll just repeat myself from another thread:

The biggest issue is that Republicans know all these court orders, hearings, etc. take a lot of time. By the time their legislation is reversed, they've already taken advantage of it.

Rinse, repeat.

Which is why there should be serious jail time when you are caught fucking with votes. It's disgusting.