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Embracer Group enters into an agreement to acquire Eidos, Crystal Dynamics, and Square Enix Montréal amongst other assets
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Mech_Warrior
Banned
Embracer bought Saber Interactive for $500M last year. SE is run by absolute clowns.
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Well a quick google of Squra Enix's earning will show there aren't in a financial bind. But, that wasn't really my point. I believe this deal was ran by Microsoft and they passed on it based on Crystal Dynamics/Edios financials.
This was a way better get than that Bungie studio, Bungie has really only made 1 game, and they slightly evolved the formula and called it Destiny, I don't see much potential there.
Crystal Dynamics and Edios have made incredible games over the years.
Lets hope there are more good Tomb Raiders and some freshness added to the Hitman formula.
Now MS just needs to buy Embracer Group.
Crystal Dynamics and Edios have made incredible games over the years.
Lets hope there are more good Tomb Raiders and some freshness added to the Hitman formula.
Now MS just needs to buy Embracer Group.
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//DEVIL//
Member
I don’t get this
100million for MS to have tomb raider exclusive for 1 year
300 million to acquire all the studio and the IP.
Who the fuck was running at MS for this shit ass deal ? That’s a ripoff!
Also what the fuck Sony was doing not to acquire the IP tomb raider ? If there is an IP that they should have got it’s that IP. The studio is also very talented so what the fuck . Sony is dumb as a motherfucker sometimes man ...
Not like MS any better. Jesus
100million for MS to have tomb raider exclusive for 1 year
300 million to acquire all the studio and the IP.
Who the fuck was running at MS for this shit ass deal ? That’s a ripoff!
Also what the fuck Sony was doing not to acquire the IP tomb raider ? If there is an IP that they should have got it’s that IP. The studio is also very talented so what the fuck . Sony is dumb as a motherfucker sometimes man ...
Not like MS any better. Jesus
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OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Why?This was a way better get than that Bungie studio, Bungie has really only made 1 game, and they slightly evolved the formula and called it Destiny, I don't see much potential there.
Crystal Dynamics and Edios have made incredible games over the years.
Lets hope there are more good Tomb Raiders and some freshness added to the Hitman formula.
Now MS just needs to buy Embracer Group.
Yoboman
Member
Hitman isn't part of this saleThis was a way better get than that Bungie studio, Bungie has really only made 1 game, and they slightly evolved the formula and called it Destiny, I don't see much potential there.
Crystal Dynamics and Edios have made incredible games over the years.
Lets hope there are more good Tomb Raiders and some freshness added to the Hitman formula.
Now MS just needs to buy Embracer Group.
Pagusas
Elden Member
Xbox boss Phil Spencer makes case for Tomb Raider exclusivity deal
It dominated last week's Gamescom and sparked thousands of comments on the internet.
www.eurogamer.net
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Mech_Warrior
Banned
SE is keeping Life is Strange, Outriders and Just Cause.
You think those games will now sell more copies lol
You think those games will now sell more copies lol
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tommib
Banned
Tomb Raider became an Uncharted clone. Sony has enough of those already - apart from owning the real thing.
Buggy Loop
Member
OMG hallelujah for Eidos montreal
I wished it for them, monkey paw finger curled apparently
On character that SE would use that money on fucking NFTs
SE going a speed run to catch up to Konami in gaming irrelevance.
I wished it for them, monkey paw finger curled apparently
On character that SE would use that money on fucking NFTs
SE going a speed run to catch up to Konami in gaming irrelevance.
Why not.
I dunno, they're into buying big things. Maybe those companies weren't in the right package for them before, who knows.
I just want more Deus Ex.
Neofire
Member
In that case I'm glad their hands are tied then lol.
JMarcell
Member
Nope, no annoucement was made, all I can find on Google was speculation/rumors.
Mibu no ookami
Banned
God of War 2018 outsold pretty much all of the God of War games combined.
Right place, right time, right execution
Rebooting Tomb Raider, which has had multiple reboots and multiple more entries than God of War ever did... harder sell
Killer8
Member
I'm glad Deus Ex can finally spread its wings. Here's hoping Mankind Divided can finally get the true sequel it deserves.
Square Enix is an embarrassingly irrelevant company now. They've lost Eidos, their latest games are mediocre if not outright terrible, and they do poor remastering work trying to preserve the times when they were actually good. Best they have left is mainline Final Fantasy games and Dragon Quest (which they are taking in a risky new direction with XII).
Square Enix is an embarrassingly irrelevant company now. They've lost Eidos, their latest games are mediocre if not outright terrible, and they do poor remastering work trying to preserve the times when they were actually good. Best they have left is mainline Final Fantasy games and Dragon Quest (which they are taking in a risky new direction with XII).
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Why not Sony then? What would be the difference?Why not.
I dunno, they're into buying big things. Maybe those companies weren't in the right package for them before, who knows.
I just want more Deus Ex.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Is this what you are hoping to happen?This was a way better get than that Bungie studio, Bungie has really only made 1 game, and they slightly evolved the formula and called it Destiny, I don't see much potential there.
Crystal Dynamics and Edios have made incredible games over the years.
Lets hope there are more good Tomb Raiders and some freshness added to the Hitman formula.
Now MS just needs to buy Embracer Group.
No particular reason at all.
Holy Fuck, that would be a crime almost.
GotG was one of the best games of last year.
If not a true sequel I hope more devs steal their entire combat system.
remember_spinal
Banned
This was a way better get than that Bungie studio, Bungie has really only made 1 game, and they slightly evolved the formula and called it Destiny, I don't see much potential there.
Crystal Dynamics and Edios have made incredible games over the years.
Lets hope there are more good Tomb Raiders and some freshness added to the Hitman formula.
Now MS just needs to buy Embracer Group.
If anything thats more of an indictment to how incompetent those 3 big studios are.
Just bungie alone with one IP generates 10x’s more revenue (annually) than all of them combined, even with famous IP
Vaelka
Member
Wat, FFXIV is one of the biggest MMO's on the market and has only been growing with the two recent expansions that have been received incredibly well and so have the FF remakes.
They should just focus on Japanese games imo, their Western studios were tired as fuck and just either put out trash and/ or the most generic AAA titles imaginable.
Square Enix is also a huge company that does a lot of other stuff than just video games, they publish a lot of non-video game content.
GamesDontSuck
Member
Great news. Hopefully we get another deus ex game.
But it goes to show you that this gaming generation is all about absorbing.
But it goes to show you that this gaming generation is all about absorbing.
Jimmy_liv
Member
This is true but I'd also argue that this would have been a better buy than Activision
Mech_Warrior
Banned
There was speculation that there is some hidden debt that might have made a few interested parties concerned.
I wouldn't be surprised because SE appears as though they are restructuring.
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AtomicStarving
Member
Can't believe Sony missed the opportunity to do a crossover between Lara Croft and Nathan Drake. Not to mention the amazing Deus Ex series.
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Metalman96
Member
I so badly want Legacy of Kain to come back.
EDMIX
Writes a lot, says very little
lol I was just going to say this.
A parent company buying such IPs doesn't mean that company itself can't be bought.
A company bought Bioware and Pandemic, that company was then bought by EA. If anything I'd argue such a deal might make it easier for Sony or MS to buy em in the future or something.
So like everyone else, I do wonder why so many passed up on them. Maybe the cost of operating all those teams or not many relevant IP or something. I personally love many of the IP we are talking about folks, but many of them are dead as fuck at this point, as in....what the fuck has been even put out lately to believe this would be in the billions or something? Tomb Raider and maybe Deus Ex are the biggest IP here and I think worth the 300 million, the rest is icing on top
yazenov
Member
This was a way better get than that Bungie studio, Bungie has really only made 1 game, and they slightly evolved the formula and called it Destiny, I don't see much potential there.
Crystal Dynamics and Edios have made incredible games over the years.
Lets hope there are more good Tomb Raiders and some freshness added to the Hitman formula.
Now MS just needs to buy Embracer Group.
Its called business and the main focus of it is income. Your company value is based on revenue and profit, not number of games.
Bungie probably made more money from Destiny and its Micro-Transactions than all of the games made by Eidos and Crystal dynamics combined maybe 4 or 5x more, hence the purchase price difference.
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EDMIX
Writes a lot, says very little
This.
I don't know why people put so much fucking personal emotional shit into this.
This is about business, its about a solid return and what makes sense based purely on math. Those games didn't bring in some massive amount over the last years to believe they would be in the billions. The fact that the last Tomb Raider and last Deus Ex sold lessor then other entries doesn't help this entire thing, it shows even within their own series they are selling less.
WTF is going on.
300m for 50 franchises amongst which highest-tier ones?
Is there an incoming video bubble and those corporations know it? This is the only explanation...or maybe S-E is going bankrupt for some reason.
Just the Tomb Raider franchise is worth more than 300m, they basically gave Eidos out for free, wtf is going on at S-E?
300m for 50 franchises amongst which highest-tier ones?
Is there an incoming video bubble and those corporations know it? This is the only explanation...or maybe S-E is going bankrupt for some reason.
Just the Tomb Raider franchise is worth more than 300m, they basically gave Eidos out for free, wtf is going on at S-E?
EDMIX
Writes a lot, says very little
James Sawyer Ford
Member
It does seem quite strange
Tomb Raider can still be a massive franchise with the right reboot again
Stuart360
Member
Maybe Square are in financial trouble?, maybe they just wanted rid of their western business?.
Its funny because i was watching a streamer earlier who was streaming one of the Thief games, and chat was talking about the Thief reboot from a few years ago that had little advertizing and promotional support from Square. Anyway someone in chat said how he had read an article (i know, i know) talking about how badly Square treat and supported their western studios. When you look at what happened with Deus Ex Manking Divided, it makes you wonder if there is truth in that and Square just doesnt want their Western studios anymore or somthing.
Its funny because i was watching a streamer earlier who was streaming one of the Thief games, and chat was talking about the Thief reboot from a few years ago that had little advertizing and promotional support from Square. Anyway someone in chat said how he had read an article (i know, i know) talking about how badly Square treat and supported their western studios. When you look at what happened with Deus Ex Manking Divided, it makes you wonder if there is truth in that and Square just doesnt want their Western studios anymore or somthing.
remember_spinal
Banned
So many people already trying to make peace with Square Enix possibly being bought by Sony is fun to watch. 
At least let it happen first before you decide you hate final fantasy and always have since 9
At least let it happen first before you decide you hate final fantasy and always have since 9
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BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
What everyone is leaving out is that Embracer just embraced all their debt as well
TheUndeadGamer
Member
Actually Shadow sold 8.9 Million copies.
https://tombraider25.square-enix-games.com/en-us/sottr/blog/treasure-hunters/
Craig of War
Banned
EDMIX
Writes a lot, says very little
selling less then the first still shows some decline and I'm not sure how much Square put into those titles either.
TheUndeadGamer
Member
Oh yeah absolutely. I just wanted to put an update on the figure.
AX8
Banned
Thanks for proving my point
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Embracer is gonna launch a sub service or something. They have to be angling for something. Over 100 dev teams? For what? Really strange company.
Papacheeks
Banned
Shadow was 135 million their most expensive tomb raider to make to date. Also 8.9 million with a a lot of those being heavily discounted.
Days gone sold like 8-10 million as well and look where the sequel ?
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Craig of War
Banned
TheUndeadGamer
Member
Yeah it is unfortunate for both games.
AX8
Banned
I'm a troll because I don't agree with you? Lmao there is clearly a reason Square is getting rid of garbageSince you're an obvious troll here is a Troll Meme for you enjoy
sorry you can't see it.