Enjoy laughing at the UK over the Online Safety Act?

Most of this could be avoided if you had better parenting. limit devices, limit internet usage, put on internet Net Nanny kind of blockers, dont let the kids push around the parents bringing their tablet or phone to the dinner table etc.... It wont be 100%. But it would help a lot.

And pushing it on the companies to be responsible is like Coke and Pepsi pushing stores to not to sell pop to kids under 18.

Problem is lousy parents who dont give a shit and also kids (when they are old enough to know what's going on in life) being dumbasses too going overboard. Just have some control people.

It's like everyone blaming cereal companies for kids eating bad cereal. 8 year old Billyboy isn't the one buying Froot Loops during grocery shopping. It's dumbass mom and dad. They probably want to eat it too making it money see monkey do like moronic parents. Dont blame the cereal companies or stores selling it. Nothing wrong with a sugary treat here and there. But look in the mirror who the culprit really is.
 
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StreetsofBeige said:
Most of this could be avoided if you had better parenting. limit devices, limit internet usage, put on internet Net Nanny kind of blockers, dont let the kids push around the parents bringing their tablet or phone to the dinner table etc.... It wont be 100%. But it would help a lot.

And pushing it on the companies to be responsible is like Coke and Pepsi pushing stores to not to sell pop to kids under 18.

Problem is lousy parents who dont give a shit and also kids (when they are old enough to know what's going on in life) being dumbasses too going overboard.

It's like everyone blaming cereal companies for kids eating bad cereal. 8 year old Billyboy isn't the one buying Froot Loops during grocery shopping. It's dumbass mom and dad. They probably want to eat it too.
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It's crazy. You dont even need to be a parent to realize what basic guidelines should be done to get through life or parent a kid.

When I see how some of my nephews and nieces act being on the cells all the time (it used to be tablets, but they dont care about those anymore), even I'd see them doing this and gets to a point at dinner I ask them to put it away and they do. My bro and sister in laws would always say.... "Well, it's easy for you guys because they listen to you when you visit. It's different when it's just us. They dont listen".

Sounds totally reasonable. I get it that us uncles and aunts get it easy when we visit.

But then how does that explain you guys setting up a Roblox account with money preloaded and your credit card on file, which one time one of the kids went ape shit buying stuff and you freaked out and called Roblox to refund it? (As a hilarious note, it must happen so often when my bro told us the story Roblox refunded it no questions asked).

Then I asked why did you have the credit card on file? And they're like.... "Well, we didn't think he'd do it". Then I said are you going to take off your credit card info? Guess what the answer was? You'd think the logical answer would be yes right? Nope. Left it on and assumed the debacle would be enough to prevent a second happening.

Dumbest thing I ever heard. So far it's true. I havent heard a second instance. But maybe it happens again? Why act like a dumbass parent being loosey goosey? It's not he plays Roblox or anything. Begging for a second event.

That's stupid parenting for ya.
 
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My state already has a law where porn sites are required to verify age with identification. Even browser based VPNs bypass it... ...so I have been told.
 
StreetsofBeige said:
Most of this could be avoided if you had better parenting. limit devices, limit internet usage, put on internet Net Nanny kind of blockers, dont let the kids push around the parents bringing their tablet or phone to the dinner table etc.... It wont be 100%. But it would help a lot.

And pushing it on the companies to be responsible is like Coke and Pepsi pushing stores to not to sell pop to kids under 18.

Problem is lousy parents who dont give a shit and also kids (when they are old enough to know what's going on in life) being dumbasses too going overboard. Just have some control people.

It's like everyone blaming cereal companies for kids eating bad cereal. 8 year old Billyboy isn't the one buying Froot Loops during grocery shopping. It's dumbass mom and dad. They probably want to eat it too making it money see monkey do like moronic parents. Dont blame the cereal companies or stores selling it. Nothing wrong with a sugary treat here and there. But look in the mirror who the culprit really is.
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Its got nothing to do with safety of kids. Its here to remove freedom speech and jail political dissidents.
 
StreetsofBeige said:
Most of this could be avoided if you had better parenting. limit devices, limit internet usage, put on internet Net Nanny kind of blockers, dont let the kids push around the parents bringing their tablet or phone to the dinner table etc.... It wont be 100%. But it would help a lot.

And pushing it on the companies to be responsible is like Coke and Pepsi pushing stores to not to sell pop to kids under 18.

Problem is lousy parents who dont give a shit and also kids (when they are old enough to know what's going on in life) being dumbasses too going overboard. Just have some control people.

It's like everyone blaming cereal companies for kids eating bad cereal. 8 year old Billyboy isn't the one buying Froot Loops during grocery shopping. It's dumbass mom and dad. They probably want to eat it too making it money see monkey do like moronic parents. Dont blame the cereal companies or stores selling it. Nothing wrong with a sugary treat here and there. But look in the mirror who the culprit really is.
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Parents aren't as stupid as you think. These bills are always introduced in the guise of protecting children but are typically used to control online speech and content, mostly by politicians who will quickly frame disagreement as hate and harassment.
 
Unknown Soldier said:
Americans won't stand for this, unlike in Europe we do value freedom as one of our nation's founding virtues
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Sure, that's why age verification of some type is not a thing and pornhub totally didn't ban access in the following states:

Alabama
Arkansas
Florida
Georgia
Idaho
Indiana
Kansas
Kentucky
Mississippi
Montana
Nebraska
North Carolina
Oklahoma
South Carolina
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
Virginia
Wyoming

The only freedom a lot of Americans these days care about is the second amendment.
 
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Americans won't stand for this, unlike in Europe we do value freedom as one of our nation's founding virtues
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You only have the freedoms that are afforded to you by the state.

You aren't even free to cross the road using your own judgement or to walk down the street drinking a beer in a lot of states is my understanding,
 
Banjo64 said:
You only have the freedoms that are afforded to you by the state.

You aren't even free to cross the road using your own judgement or to walk down the street drinking a beer in a lot of states is my understanding,
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Yeah but they can shoot up a high school whenever they want.
 
This is so not meant to protect kids, fuck off.
Enjoy spending way too many resources finding and banning "illegal" sites soon enough. And then continuously scratch behind your ear being stupid enough to not understand how and why this is occuring.
 
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LMAO we're allowed to use air conditioning and we can post on Twitter without being arrested by the police
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I was recently in USA . Everytime I watched a movie at night. All the movies editted out swearing even the word shit. This was post 9pm too.

Was weird. Can't even swear on TV in USA bro. Even those cooking shows with Gordon Ramsay bleep out all the swearing.
 
DKehoe said:
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"These days, you get arrested and thrown in jail if you use air conditioning, don't you?"
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Well in some southern European countries the heating in buildings is managed according to the local council timetables and keeping your apartment warmer than a certain amount during the winter is also punishable by fines.
 
Panajev2001a said:
Well in some southern European countries the heating in buildings is managed according to the local council timetables and keeping your apartment warmer than a certain amount during the winter is also punishable by fines.
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I think that's the thing with this sort of situation. People read something online and then apply it far more broadly than is actually the case.
 
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Should be the Online Surveillance act.

Politicians hate the people they represent. They want to control everything about them and take their money from them.
 
Having some methods to protect minors is reasonable. Implementing it has challenges. I think the UK method of explicit person verification will also discourage many adults from those sites, excepting vpn work arounds.

Having said that, imho, folks of any age arent going to be worse off without pornhub access!
 
Parents: do your fucking job properly and there wouldn't be any need for this. Have conversations with them (particularly boys) that will make you uncomfortable. It will be good for them in the long run.

Stop waiting for Daddy Government to do things for you.
 
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RCX said:
Parents: do your fucking job properly and there wouldn't be any need for this. Have conversations with them (particularly boys) that will make you uncomfortable. It will be good for them in the long run.

Stop waiting for Daddy Government to do things for you.
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What conversations did you find were most effective when you discussed the issue with your children?
 
Paasei said:
This is so not meant to protect kids, fuck off.
Enjoy spending way too many resources finding and banning "illegal" sites soon enough. And then continuously scratch behind your ear being stupid enough to not understand how and why this is occuring.
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I agree, this isn't about protecting kids. The war on drugs has been a cash cow for decades. Same playbook every time: more fines, more court fees, and taxpayers footing the bill for privately run prisons owned by political donors. Think about it, law enforcement had the tools to crush the Mafia, one of the most entrenched criminal networks in U.S. history. Yet somehow they've spent 50 years and billions of dollars and still "can't" shut down drug trafficking that's now just cartels & gangs, run by European niggas, Latin America niggas, and real niggas. It's not that they can't, it's that there's no profit in actually ending it.

The Mafia was taken down because they were centralized, visible, and easy to prosecute under RICO once the government decided they were a liability. Drugs, on the other hand, keep the system fed: endless arrests, court fees, asset seizures, and prison contracts. Back then, cutting off one big network made financial sense. These days the chaos is too profitable to fix. It's way easier to funnel taxpayer money into private pockets than to actually reduce drug trafficking the way they crushed the Mafia into near irrelevance. That racket was bad for business, so they took it apart. This one pays, so it stays.

Hell, even Hollywood took notice, Italian Mafia movies have since changed to cartels, fentanyl and government/state official corruption movies. :messenger_beaming:

Overall, what I'm saying is that corporations have been raking in huge profits from the internet ever since they realized how heavily people use it. Now the government is just looking for its own ways to cash in too.
 
StreetsofBeige said:
Most of this could be avoided if you had better parenting. limit devices, limit internet usage, put on internet Net Nanny kind of blockers, dont let the kids push around the parents bringing their tablet or phone to the dinner table etc.... It wont be 100%. But it would help a lot.

And pushing it on the companies to be responsible is like Coke and Pepsi pushing stores to not to sell pop to kids under 18.

Problem is lousy parents who dont give a shit and also kids (when they are old enough to know what's going on in life) being dumbasses too going overboard. Just have some control people.

It's like everyone blaming cereal companies for kids eating bad cereal. 8 year old Billyboy isn't the one buying Froot Loops during grocery shopping. It's dumbass mom and dad. They probably want to eat it too making it money see monkey do like moronic parents. Dont blame the cereal companies or stores selling it. Nothing wrong with a sugary treat here and there. But look in the mirror who the culprit really is.
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I do agree with your argument of free will, but not entirely with your food example, since these companies are clearly using sugar addiction to trick our monkey brains into buying it. Only takes one generation of addicts to spill into another too. It's like putting a salt lick outside and getting surprised when deer show up. I'm almost 100% certain these companies already did the studies on how to keep us hooked. Before I traveled around Asia outside of the US, I was genuinely oblivious to how sweet things were. Now I can't stand a hershey bar.

But in terms of online content...There's so many tools, options, and legit control parents can exercise, that I feel it's ridiculous to go this far. Hell, even the market itself already solved this problem with electronics designed for children
 
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Mistake said:
I do agree with your argument of free will, but not entirely with your food example, since these companies are clearly using sugar addiction to trick our monkey brains into buying it. Only takes one generation of addicts to spill into another too. It's like putting a salt lick outside and getting surprised when deer show up. I'm almost 100% certain these companies already did the studies on how to keep us hooked. Before I traveled around Asia outside of the US, I was genuinely oblivious to how sweet things were. Now I can't stand a hershey bar.

But in terms of online content...There's so many tools, options, and legit control parents can exercise, that I feel it's ridiculous to go this far
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Fair points.

Gov has to get involved when the populace cant control themselves fucking it up.

It's like pension deductions. Scraping money off people's pay stub to just give some of it back when youre 65 is really just a form of adult babysitting. They could just let people keep the deductions telling people to be good with their money and save up your own retirement account themselves. But they know a lot of people will blow their money and be totally broke. And when you're an old geezer, chances of making money is hard as nobody wants to hire you anymore. The pension process is really no different than a 10 year old getting some birthday money and mom and dad holds it for him because they know he might blow it after school at a store on something dumb. And then the kid has no money left. So mom and dad will piece it out for him later on something better.

Companies are similar and have to babysit too.

Every electrical gadget's manual will say dont submerge in water. They got to do that because some idiot will drop it in while sitting in a bathtub, and they dont want to get sued because the manual didnt say dont do that.
 
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Aesius said:
What conversations did you find were most effective when you discussed the issue with your children?
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I have 2 daughters age 13 and 15. So my approach was from the point of view that they may be meeting some boys whose expectations around sex are, to be frank, fucked up because of porn. We talked, and continue to talk about, having respect for themselves and to not ever feel under pressure to make a guy happy.

Can't say I love having these conversations with them, its initially as cringeworthy as it sounds but I hope it helps them in the future. My point is if you decide to become a parent you've got to do the bad stuff as well as the good and I've always thought that sex-ed should be led by parents.

My folks never had to deal with this sort of stuff and I'm somewhat glad I never had boys as for them its a lot more hazardous. I don't think porn is a harmless thing at all (and yes I looked at it when I was a young lad but it was a lot less accessible back then) but I also don't think its the job of government to help parents skip being responsible for their kids either.
 
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I don't enjoy laughing because I know a lot of european countries and the current EU will push for similar draconian measures.
 
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The fuckers in Congress keep trying to fuck us in the ass regarding the Internet every few years. Eventually it'll probably pass and absolutely ruin the internet.
 
LordCBH said:
The fuckers in Congress keep trying to fuck us in the ass regarding the Internet every few years. Eventually it'll probably pass and absolutely ruin the internet.
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The internet is already shit.

I only come here and porn hub.

Now its just here. At least the kids are safer.
 
clarky said:
The internet is already shit.

I only come here and porn hub.

Now its just here. At least the kids are safer.
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The sad thing is they don't give a shit about kids (if they did then all these politicians would stop fucking kids.). It's just an excuse to make their plans more palatable for the general public. Their true goal is to monitor and track everybody even more than they already do.
 
LordCBH said:
The sad thing is they don't give a shit about kids (if they did then all these politicians would stop fucking kids.). It's just an excuse to make their plans more palatable for the general public. Their true goal is to monitor and track everybody even more than they already do.
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Bollocks init?
 
LOL. You UK people's gov gone batshit crazy. Not surprising when youd read about all the stories the cops arrest people for non-issues, BUT funny how they always allow big left leaning or Islamic mob protests no problem.

You guys got ultra wimpy cops and gov now, when historically the UK would be right up there fighting the fight in world wars to protect the freedom of not just for the country, but as an overarching example of freedom from oppressive forces like Nazi Germany.

Something weird happened where the gov changed big time.

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