Enjoy laughing at the UK over the Online Safety Act?

Some of you are missing the forest from the trees here, Americans, that bill that's about to be submitted will bring this shit to you! Do something now!
I'm glad you're spreading the word on this BS. But what can I even do, as an American citizen? Write a strongly-worded letter?
 
Back in September last year, Australia announced a ban on social media for kids and the main sentiment in that thread was that it was a good idea and that social media was trash.
Now everyone is pro social media for kids - what changed?
 
Some of you are missing the forest from the trees here, Americans, that bill that's about to be submitted will bring this shit to you! Do something now!
This bill was submitted to the Congress multiple times before and has died each time. I stated that Americans won't stand for this and got a bunch of LOL emojis but Europeans are the ones living under a pervasive authoritarian censorship regime

We Americans can take care of our own shit, thanks. You guys should probably look to your affairs though. The EU has stated they will implement similar to the UK regime in 12 months

 
the UK is completely deranged. they're more concerned with online trolls than girls being raped.

it really is insane how their government has become so twisted that somehow they've achieved censorship for its native citizens while giving maximum freedom to freeloading foreigners.
 
Back in September last year, Australia announced a ban on social media for kids and the main sentiment in that thread was that it was a good idea and that social media was trash.
Now everyone is pro social media for kids - what changed?
Not even social media but straight porn. It just depends on whether it's liberties that specific group likes or dislikes. I'm sure a lot here use porn but a majority would be completely fine with an outright tiktok ban for example. They wouldn't give a shit about protecting the rights/freedoms of those other individuals as long as it's something they don't do.
 
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Not even social media but straight porn. It just depends on whether it's liberties that specific group likes or dislikes. I'm sure a lot here use porn but a majority would be completely fine with an outright tiktok ban for example. They wouldn't give a shit about protecting the rights/freedoms of those other individuals as long as it's something they don't do.
I'm perfectly fine for verification for porn websites - again, probably close to 100% of men watch porn, how is this fucking news suddenly? "Oh, no, I cannot stand the fact they might out me as a porn user"?

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Really a strange hill to die on. And before any "struggling millionaire" commends "it's a slippery slope" - no, it's not if you don't have the IQ of a donkey. Let me make it easy for you:

Porn website
Regular website

Porn website
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Don't see labour lasting at all to 2028. SNP in Scotland Is on target to get a supermajority on Indie. Wales Is either going PC or ReformUK, If PC win that puts all Devo nations as having pro Indie parties. Yet the morons on /r/Scotland claimed once Kier was In everything will be fixed, All this within less than a year.
 
Tell me why they shouldn't kick ILLEGAL migrants out. Fully deserved action.

In UK you can't even criticize the government...
I'm not talking about illegal migrants buddy:



Fucking guy even talks about kicking Rosie O'donnell and Elon Musk out just because he doesn't like what they're saying about his administration.

Ironically the illegal ones are more safe because they're not on the system.
 
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That's not the only thing I enjoy laughing at the UK over.
You may have heard about "balconing": (often drunk) tourists who jump from the balcony of the hotel to the swimming pool.

In the Balearic Islands (Ibiza, Mallorca...) have a league where they give points to countries when a tourist from there gets hurt or dead by doing so. Guess who's almost every year a distant winner.
 
Or install a vpn browser?
And point your VPN endpoint where, exactly? If the UK and US both go down this road, most other countries on the planet are likely to follow suit. This sets a precedent that makes it "the norm". A VPN might be the solution today, but eventually enough countries will fall into lockstep with this that the industry itself starts struggling.

From a distribution standpoint, what happens to the porn industry when you remove the anonymity that the internet has provided for decades?
 
You may have heard about "balconing": (often drunk) tourists who jump from the balcony of the hotel to the swimming pool.

In the Balearic Islands (Ibiza, Mallorca...) have a league where they give points to countries when a tourist from there gets hurt or dead by doing so. Guess who's almost every year a distant winner.
oi mate hold me pint
 
You may have heard about "balconing": (often drunk) tourists who jump from the balcony of the hotel to the swimming pool.

In the Balearic Islands (Ibiza, Mallorca...) have a league where they give points to countries when a tourist from there gets hurt or dead by doing so. Guess who's almost every year a distant winner.

There's even a website keeping score of balconing deaths.


 
I'm not talking about illegal migrants buddy:



Fucking guy even talks about kicking Rosie O'donnell and Elon Musk out just because he doesn't like what they're saying about his administration.

Ironically the illegal ones are more safe because they're not on the system.
Well, when you hand out green cards and visas like candy, don't be surprised when someone comes along with enhanced scrutiny. A moderate approach is best, but then we'd have nothing to argue about :messenger_winking:

As an online community, these rules and regulations can affect us here and make site operation more cumbersome. The easiest solution would be to ban UK users and not even bother, but that also contradicts core American values. Not sure what the solution is, other than to push back as hard as possible
 
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And point your VPN endpoint where, exactly? If the UK and US both go down this road, most other countries on the planet are likely to follow suit. This sets a precedent that makes it "the norm". A VPN might be the solution today, but eventually enough countries will fall into lockstep with this that the industry itself starts struggling.

From a distribution standpoint, what happens to the porn industry when you remove the anonymity that the internet has provided for decades?
Do you think the UK government will win the next election?? the replacement is going to roll back everything they did. So for the time being, download Opera or something
 
Well, when you hand out green cards and visas like candy, don't be surprised when someone comes along with enhanced scrutiny. A moderate approach is best, but then we'd have nothing to argue about :messenger_winking:

As an online community, these rules and regulations can affect us here and make site operation more cumbersome. The easiest solution would be to ban UK users and not even bother, but that also contradicts core American values. Not sure what the solution is, other than to push back as hard as possible
Except he's now selling them like candy if you're rich enough rather than those who legally seek asylum from fear of death or oppression, or even those who have a family/kids with an American and a legal green card.
 
Or install a vpn browser?

IDK if you hear anything beyond your country spectrum, but here in Brazil, when the supreme court banned brazilians of using Twitter, they also put a fine of 15k if anyone would use VPN to bypass this Twitter ban.

Even most of the lawyers said this was absurd.
 
The next government is not going to be Conservative, they are being out poled by the Lib Dems

It's four years away. It's impossbile to predict especially this time around. I'm still not convinced reform is going to manage a majority until nige gets a grip on his incompetent MPs and councillors. A conservative come back hinges entirely on Kemi's replacement.
 
It worked well for almost half a century.
Are you so sure? I mean, this legislation is coming as children's safety act. This may just be a disguise… but maybe it's not. Go and read Jonathan Haidt's book and see what is happening with today's kids.

I mean, we can go ahead and pretend like screaming "parents should do their job!" for a couple more decades will eventually do it but that won't change anything, and you know it. And it's not just parents not caring, it's about kids being smart despite the parental checks.

Something like this was inevitable. It is either that or a further decline in kids mental health.

Will it suck for us grown ups? Yeah, sure. But it think internet regulation will be a big pro for the kids and I'm willing to take the hit for that.
 
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Are you so sure? I mean, this legislation is coming as children's safety act. This may just be a disguise… but maybe it's not. Go and read Jonathan Haidt's book and see what is happening with today's kids.

I mean, we can go ahead and pretend like screaming "parents should do their job!" for a couple more decades will eventually do it but that won't change anything, and you know it. And it's not just parents not caring, it's about kids being smart despite the parental checks.

Something like this was inevitable. It is either that or a further decline in kids mental health.

Will it suck for us grown ups? Yeah, sure. But it think internet regulation will be a big pro for the kids and I'm willing to take the hit for that.

Of course I'm sure this is not to protect children. Whenever a government wants to implement an unpopular measure, that goes against the rights of it's people, they will always use the excuse that it's to protect the children.
But it is not. It's to control what people say on the internet. It's to curb dissent.
The UK government allowed the systematic rape of 3000 children for over a decade. It's plainly obvious these people don't care about children and never did.
 
Of course I'm sure this is not to protect children. Whenever a government wants to implement an unpopular measure, that goes against the rights of it's people, they will always use the excuse that it's to protect the children.
But it is not. It's to control what people say on the internet. It's to curb dissent.
The UK government allowed the systematic rape of 3000 children for over a decade. It's plainly obvious these people don't care about children and never did.
Who knows… All I see is mental health declining on a raping scale in the past 10 years and there being no improvement in sight, on the contrary. It's just getting worse.
 
Who knows… All I see is mental health declining on a raping scale in the past 10 years and there being no improvement in sight, on the contrary. It's just getting worse.

And this law will do nothing to improve that, because the problem is not the internet itself, it's social media platforms and their algorithms.
If the UK truly want to protect children, they would ban minors from social media platforms and ban mobile phones in schools.
But once again, this is not about protecting children, that is just the excuse.
 
And this law will do nothing to improve that, because the problem is not the internet itself, it's social media platforms and their algorithms.
If the UK truly want to protect children, they would ban minors from social media platforms and ban mobile phones in schools.
But once again, this is not about protecting children, that is just the excuse.
That'll come as soon as age verification has been implemented - see Australia. You can't just ban things from one day to the next. Not even China does this. You have to ease into it. And this is the first step. It remains to be seen if it will be misused. I hope most countries (and this'll be coming everywhere) won't.
 
That'll come as soon as age verification has been implemented - see Australia. You can't just ban things from one day to the next. Not even China does this. You have to ease into it. And this is the first step. It remains to be seen if it will be misused. I hope most countries (and this'll be coming everywhere) won't.

Of course it's going to be misused.
The UK police is already been doing that with several other laws, to curb criticism.
 
There's even a website keeping score of balconing deaths.


Yes, as I mentioned the 'Balearic Balconing Federation' has a website and twitter account tracking deaths and injuries:
https://www.balcon.ing/
https://x.com/Botquebota

It's a sarcastic thing by somebody not happy with crazy drunk tourists, obviously isn't a real federation. But they do a proper tracking providing news media sources for each case.
 


Um that's not what that means. It means it will "protect" them from sites promoting illegal immigration or people smuggling.
I'm not sure what this Peter Lloyd guy is thinking. Surely he understands that this act isn't trying to prevent people from criticising sexual abuse or fraud so why does he think it's the criticism that will be blocked with that specific bullet point?
 
Serious question… Did you guys really think that interactions in the net will stay anonymous indefinitely?

There are politicians already clamoring for and end to anonymity in order to make the internet "safer".


Here's an example of the Spanish prime minister holding a speech at the WEF meeting in Davos and asking for end of anonimity:

"Sánchez he would propose legislation aimed at ending anonymity for social media users when the EU's leaders meet in Brussels on March 20-21.
His idea is for each username to be a pseudonym that must be registered under a real identity with European authorities, using a "European digital identity wallet."

"This way citizens could use nicknames if they want, but in the case of a crime, public authorities would be able to connect those nicknames to real people and hold them responsible," he said.

Sánchez argued that "no one can send packages without showing an I.D. or buy a hunting weapon without giving their name, and yet we are allowing people to roam freely on social networks without linking their profiles to a real identity. This paves the way for misinformation, hate speech and cyber harassment because it is facilitating the use of bots and it is allowing people to act without being held accountable for their actions."

The proposal, however, clashes with longstanding demands of digital rights groups, which say that protection of online anonymity is important to protect freedom of speech and removing it could have a chilling effect. Such groups say anonymity is a cornerstone of online communications and a critical tool to challenge authority and express controversial opinions. "


Well, the EU is busy working on digital IDs. The forthcoming EU age verification app will of course be linked to a digital ID. When the EU has already forced all European internet users to use a digital ID and an official EU verification app, it will make it much easier to add more "functionality" to the system ...
 
Ah, I just love living in the UK. Where everyone is a Nazi except for people who hate Jews.Where we are forced to pay tax to watch a nuance read the news. Where thousands of children have been abused and every year children vanish from UK schools to marry their uncle in Pakistan but don't worry. No Porn.
 
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