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[Fresh Prince]

The Soul Music animated series is pretty good too, and the DVD should be pretty cheap.

Is that the one where the gardener becomes a rock star and Death's daughter trrys to save him?

 

[AntoneM]

so are they going to teach all types of religious creationism? such as Hinduism, or the hundreds of native American forms of creationism among many others?

 

[Saturnman]

so are they going to teach all types of religious creationism? such as Hinduism, or the hundreds of native American forms of creationism among many others?

No pagan creationism in American classrooms. You silly goof.

 

[Socreges]

That's good, I like that.

 

[pnjtony]

is greater than

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

Teza, you push a false dichotomy. Leaving creationism out of the schools is not rejecting it, it's showing discernment between science and religion. I'm well aware of the philosophical debate as to the supposed faith-based fundamentals of science, they don't really work.

You haven't addressed my earlier request that you examine the nature of your own beliefs, whatever they may be. Until you do, your line of questioning is intellectually dishonest.

 

[jett]

Love that strip. Haha.

 

[DaMan121]

GODDIDIT !...Yeah.. A's for everyone! Seriously wtf will you teach? Creationism / ID is a joke, and defintely doesnt belong in a science class. By all means, it belongs in a phylosophy class though.

 

[Jeffahn]

Leaving the evolution VS creationism debate aside, the fact is that the sole argument for ID is "it's too complex, therefore it must have been designed by a supernatural intelligent being", which runs counter to methodological naturalism, which is one of the most basic pillars of the scientific method.

In other words, even if you ignore the facts that...

- All the most common examples of ID (such as the spermatozoid's flagellum and the human eye) have been falsified.

- 99.9998% of all scientists who got their degree and work in a field related to evolution (i.e. biologists, biochemists, and paleontologists) accept the theory of evolution.

- The almost totality of ID proponents are Christian fundies, and those who aren't are usually making lots of money by selling various books and other merchandise about creationism and ID.

- ID doesn't actually explain anything, all their arguments either attempt to falsify evolution (as opposed to attempting to support ID), or are based on the "argument from ignorance" logical fallacy.


...intelligent design can't be called science, even by the vaguest meaning of the term. It's not "bad science" or "science based on shaky grounds"; by its very definition, ID isn't science at ALL, and has no place in a science classroom.

That's not the worst of it. Creationist/ID conspiracy moguls are now saying that the scientists who believe in evolution are part of a secular/aetheist sect hell-bent on destroying Christianity, and that they are preventing a large number of supposed creationist scientists from 'coming out' in favour of creationism/ID.

All you have to do type "creationism" into Google and there's just tonnes of this stuff.

 

[Chony]

Oy. These people drive me crazy.

Yes, evolution is "just" a theory. On the other hand, creationism is just a story.

And yes, belief in any scientific idea or theory requires faith. Nothing in science can ever be proven absolutely, only disproven. And yet our TVs, stereos, computers, and internet connections continue to work. Funny, that.

You've got it backwards, dude. Math is built on our known world.

Yes, mathmatics is something abstract, but it is fundamently throughout all systems of life. It is a simplification of reality, something we can write down. It is a mirror of our world in the abstract sense. Physics and Chemistry boil down to math. The higher principles in both rely on fundamental math.