CornBurrito
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This hasn't been said in the show. What's your source for this.
Erased (Boku dake ga Inai Machi) animeTV|OT| If I could turn back time, If I could..
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This hasn't been said in the show. What's your source for this.
hosannainexcelsis
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The other children could have gone missing later too. I don't think we know much about their cases.
I'm pretty sure that title is meant not only to relate to Kayo, but also to Satoru himself.
You're going to see that reaction mostly from committed anime fans, whereas the anime is part of a promotional push for the series that's mainly targeted at the mainstream population who don't watch much anime, and those are the sort of people who will be buying the manga.
Its sooo tempting.
But the animation, the voice acting, the direction - its all so good that I'd rather just wait week by week.
The main characters kid voice is fantastic.
CornBurrito
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"so unlike Anime" means what?
Why would it have to be said? I felt he was a boy, but I did confirm it with the wiki.
CornBurrito
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Because Hiromi looks and sounds exactly like a female? Don't even try to bullshit that he's obviously a boy.
Him being a boy is a fairly significant "spoiler". You didn't say "I think" you said "he is a boy". You did so after looking it up on the wiki. You posted manga spoilers.
Admiral Woofington
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You can ask someone who can explain it more, but his delivery (monotone to that degree) is not what Anime viewers are used to unless the character is meant to be a robot or a dandere I guess. Probably doesn't help there's a whole industry and fanbase on VAs down there and here comes this guy who has only done live drama to take the spotlight.
hosannainexcelsis
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The voice actor playing 29 year old Satoru is not an anime voice actor, but a live-action actor. You can hear that he approaches acting in a different way than typical anime acting. You can see the same sort of situation in Mysterious Girlfriend X, where the actress who played the female lead came from a live-action background instead of an anime background. She received similar criticism for her acting.
CornBurrito
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Huh. I guess Japanese not being my native language I couldn't even notice anything odd about his voice acting.
How does that spoil anything though? Little boys have girl voices in anime almost always. Hiromi is actually a unisex name too.
Admiral Woofington
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Shame if the die hard audience can't step back and look at it without a bias. But hey if it's doing well critically and with a different audience then why complain. Recognition is recognition.
Admiral Woofington
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This is info that could be gotten from promotional material/profiles if necessary. The sex of a secondary character where his sex doesn't come into play at all in the show isn't a spoiler if it's information that is already known by the characters. Anime isn't unknown to draw effeminate males.
I see where your issue comes but in this case I don't think his gender was ever meant to be a surprise in the 'oh shit what a reveal'. And the boys don't have a reason to say it out loud. It's an assumption some people made by design alone.
CornBurrito
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Little boys are voiced by females, but you're stretching it if you think anyone would mistake Satoru or Ken'ya as female based on their voices.
Hiromi is deliberately female sounding (even as far as child voices go), and designed to look female. Hiromi is a deliberately unisex name.
The fact that you needed to look the fact up on the wiki should probably tell you that Hiromi's sex was meant to be kept hidden from the audience until after a certain point.
CornBurrito
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No. It is an assumption the creator 100% wanted the audience to make.
hosannainexcelsis
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Spoilers? I assumed Hiromi was a boy; even if he's a bit more feminine in appearance due to his longer hair, he still looks more like a boy to me. Plus it would be odd for him to be the only girl in Satoru's group of friends; friendships in that kind of school environment tend to be gender-segregated.
CornBurrito
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Spoiler in quotes. It isn't a major one. Though I'm telling you that Hiromi was deliberately designed to ensure that many readers/viewers would think he was female initially.
Basileus777
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I already thought Hiromi was a boy too, as hosanna says he hangs out with a group of all male friends. It's not some huge spoiler to flip out about.
Admiral Woofington
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I thought he was an effeminate boy so his revelation that he was one of the victims isn't like groundbreaking. Deliberately confusing the audience with knowledge characters already knew though seems like whatever it was it wouldn't have been a big deal.
I think you saying it's spoilers and going on to explain the intent of the author is a bigger spoiler than his gender. Now I know his gender will be relevant.
Basileus777
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Yep, that was many times more revealing than what the person's gender was.
Not only that, but there's an obvious division of male and female groups in the class. Satoru's interest in Hinazuki is being taken as a "crush". I felt it was obvious, but I just wanted to confirm. Also, yes, it is on the website. It says He's male but has a cute-looking outward appearance and that he's mistaken for female.
No, it was so that I didn't get called out for being wrong. Even if I felt he was a boy, I could have been wrong.
blue_phazon
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This show is phenomenal so far.
I think it may be the aspect ratio, but it feels a lot more cinematic or filmic than other anime shows. It looks really nice.
I think it may be the aspect ratio, but it feels a lot more cinematic or filmic than other anime shows. It looks really nice.
hosannainexcelsis
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That's partially the aspect ratio, but it's also because of the high quality of the art/animation/sound as well as the complex layouts. The production is just refined above the level of what you expect from TV anime.
Admiral Woofington
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I'm waiting for the OP to change to cameras panning up as birds fly by. Something this good can't last forever
killer rin
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Man this show is amazing. They are hitting 3/3 with no sign of letting up.
As for the talk of the
. I still think it would be too obvious of a card to play. The director is putting in all of these tricks involving low light and camera angles to make us come to that conclusion, but I still don't think he is the killer. That said, he does seem a little shady, for example
, so I'm not sure if I believe his story 100%, but I don't think he is the killer.
During the scene with Hinazuki being beaten and tortured by her mother I literally felt sick to my stomach. I just wanted to jump through the screen and beat the ever loving shit out of her parents. That was brutal.
As for the talk of the
Teacher being the killer
why didn't he speak up earlier when the class was ganging up on Hinazuki? If he was truly worried about her, he would have spoken up right away and taken control of the situation with his line
Admiral Woofington
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If the teacher isn't the killer then he's extremely neglectful. I mean she has clear signs of abuse and bruises everywhere. It would take sitting down with her once to find out she has issues. Then take her somewhere safe and let the police know.
If only Onizuka was the teacher. He'd go and beat up the parents himself.
If only Onizuka was the teacher. He'd go and beat up the parents himself.
Very nice episode. The moment at the tree was a great follow up to last week's final scene which also took place near a tree, albeit much smaller. I also like how the sound director played the same melody but with a grander arrangement. We really get to experience how much their relationship has grown.
Well, he did say parent services visited them, but I wonder if that's true. They normally wouldn't give up that easy if they couldn't actually make contact. Could easily be a lie concocted by him. The fact that he would disclose that with a 10 year old kid... Satoru is going learn pretty quickly he's powerless as a child. He needs an adult ally, and I think we all know who that's probably going to be.
JoeyJungle
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Moms are strong!
Nah, I don't think it's going to be his mom. She's always working.
Admiral Woofington
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He really needs to get his mom on his side. I'm sure it's just the framing of the show to take place during and right after school, but I'm hoping he's spending a lot of time with her considering he just saw her die in front of his eyes.
We saw how she was when he was at the police station. I think she always believed him, but the adult side of her just saw him behaving as a child.
I think Yuuki will be his best bet. Satoru is trying to save him too. Yuuki is like a child in an adult body.
hosannainexcelsis
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He really ought to get his mom involved though. I would imagine he's worried about doing that considering her murder, but she seems likely to be sympathetic if he tells her about the abuse he's noticed. Although she might not be able to do much either.
Admiral Woofington
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Maybe it was just my mom being awesome but if I told my mom a friend was being abused, she'd invite them over to dinner, have them spend the night and probably figure out what to do next with my dad.
Nothing to that degree ever happened but I knew a kid who didn't eat much back in elementary and she'd tell me to invite him over occasionally to have dinner because she worried for him.
Nothing to that degree ever happened but I knew a kid who didn't eat much back in elementary and she'd tell me to invite him over occasionally to have dinner because she worried for him.
Cornbread78
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Love the convo, and definitely love the FFXIII reference, lol.
Now that I think about it, she does seem to know something in the present time. I don't know if she looked into it because she recognized the person that seemingly was about to kidnap a little kid, or if there's even more to it. It's a really a great mystery so far. There are a lot of lines of thought the viewer can have.
Episode 3
The episode looked great and had some really exciting camera work at the key scenes. It helps add a visual flair to relatively mundane stuff which don't really have much to do with the story. What I find a bit odd though, is how uncharacteristic Satoru is acting. He's starting to openly butt into everything and if this isn't the sort of person he was back then, it would be really noticeable. I wonder if this is going to come up again, since Kenya already noticed last week.
Can't say I really care for how cartoonishly evil Kayo's mom and her boyfriend (?) are being portrayed, or how super suspicious the teacher is acting. There are two scenes which were just a bit too over the top for me - when Kayo's mom looks down on her in the shed and we can see RED EYES, and the final scene in the staff room with the OMINOUS music. Really uncalled for. Lol.
The episode looked great and had some really exciting camera work at the key scenes. It helps add a visual flair to relatively mundane stuff which don't really have much to do with the story. What I find a bit odd though, is how uncharacteristic Satoru is acting. He's starting to openly butt into everything and if this isn't the sort of person he was back then, it would be really noticeable. I wonder if this is going to come up again, since Kenya already noticed last week.
Can't say I really care for how cartoonishly evil Kayo's mom and her boyfriend (?) are being portrayed, or how super suspicious the teacher is acting. There are two scenes which were just a bit too over the top for me - when Kayo's mom looks down on her in the shed and we can see RED EYES, and the final scene in the staff room with the OMINOUS music. Really uncalled for. Lol.
Come to think of it, I thought that he gained the ability *after* the girl was found dead? Because of his wish to have been able to be there to do something to change things.
Anyway, I was looking at ep 1 and saw this:
So, it made me think... Could it be that he already lived through going back in time and he just doesn't remember it? Maybe that's why, when he was a child, he suddenly remembered the other kid getting mad at him for letting him win? Y'know, sort of inception-y.
Anyway, I was looking at ep 1 and saw this:
So, it made me think... Could it be that he already lived through going back in time and he just doesn't remember it? Maybe that's why, when he was a child, he suddenly remembered the other kid getting mad at him for letting him win? Y'know, sort of inception-y.
SolidSnakeUS
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Is it alright if I spout out theories that I may have on who does what?
Cornbread78
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What he said immediately after the race really hints of this possibility.
"I made the same mistake again"
It definitely stood out at that moment.
Theories, yes. It's fine as long as they aren't based off info from the manga or stuff you've heard online on other forums that may be spoilers.
SolidSnakeUS
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From my theories, is that the teacher and the kid are working together. I know it sounds a little silly now, but I think the teacher is the one who kills Hinazuki, or will at least know who does. Also, I believe the fellow student, the quiet and creepy one who talked to the teacher at the end is the one who kills Satoru's mother because they were getting close. As in the creepy guy with the glasses and the van was the teacher and he sent the now adult student to kill his mother.
That is what I think.
Also, I'm so sorry if I got any of this right. I have no info from the mangas or anything else that I've heard. Just thoughts in my head from the first 3 episodes.
Admiral Woofington
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Lol you don't have to be sorry for guessing at what's going on based on evidence provided to you by the show. I had the same idea as a possibility but thought it was even more of a red herring due to how forced that final scene in episode 3 is.
OniBarubary
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I hate having read the manga before the show so I can't join speculation =X
Admiral Woofington
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There's few shows where reading the source material is harmful. Mystery is definitely one since so much of the enjoyment is discussing clues and theories.
OniBarubary
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Yeah, though to be honest I'm actually liking the anime more than the manga. The direction and voice acting adds so much to it. It's like seeing shit in a different light. I've always liked the mangaka's artwork but his paneling and perspective is much more suitable to stuff like Cradle of Monsters than a more subtle manga like Boku. He just goes for dynamic lines and dramatic bursts that don't work as well for a slow, murder mystery essentially. The way stuff is done in the anime has much stronger...uh...strength in how it's portrayed due to shot composition being much better.
Also there is something fun about watching people try to puzzle and speculate things out and see how close or off-base people are. o3o
Also there is something fun about watching people try to puzzle and speculate things out and see how close or off-base people are. o3o
Admiral Woofington
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As long as you don't turn into a song of Ice and Fire reader Douche who needs to make spoiler puns or quotes someone's speculation with a "...." or similar things to let us know that you read it it's all good.
Nothing worst lol. Even as a soiaf reader.
Nothing worst lol. Even as a soiaf reader.
OniBarubary
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Ugh no. I'm not the Undertale fanbase watching a stream of it. That shit is insufferable
Basileus777
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Did you forget to put an image there?
hosannainexcelsis
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I don't expect and certainly don't want the series to pull any complicated time travel nonsense like that.
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