Etrian Odyssey Community Thread: The Ongoing Adventures of Fight and Heal
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No announcement yet but it could still happen with EO3.
EOU3 would be absolutely insane.
In the best sense.
Given that we'd be bound to get at least one new class as well as the Highlander and [a hopefully neutered down to non-broken levels of power] Fafnir, the combinations that would be available would be utterly staggering... especially if they went ahead and left Grimoire Stones in.
In the best sense.
Given that we'd be bound to get at least one new class as well as the Highlander and [a hopefully neutered down to non-broken levels of power] Fafnir, the combinations that would be available would be utterly staggering... especially if they went ahead and left Grimoire Stones in.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
With how broken the subclassing system along side of the selection of jobs were now add in the updated grimoire system shit will be so OP it will be beyond hilarious. A team of death dealing farmers will not be far from the truth if so.
Its bad enough that I had 2 farmers in my main team who could kick the shit out of things with the best of them as is in the vanilla version.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
I can't even begin to imagine what kind of broken shit you could do with grimoire system + subclassing.
It would be the best game of all time if we could also get every EO2 class in 3, god the possibilities.
Also as a small update, I'm really enjoying Mystery Dungeon, reached the 4th Dungeon and I love how stressful boss battles are because you can't just reset the game, considering that my team is made of paper it's extra stressful(I need to use my Protector more).
It would be the best game of all time if we could also get every EO2 class in 3, god the possibilities.
Also as a small update, I'm really enjoying Mystery Dungeon, reached the 4th Dungeon and I love how stressful boss battles are because you can't just reset the game, considering that my team is made of paper it's extra stressful(I need to use my Protector more).
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
The thought of the chance of losing a weapon you dumped a bunch of resources into to upgrade adds to that stress lol
I figure that if they ever included both in one game, they'd change grimoires so that they can only contain monster skills.
Hikami
Member
Was reading through the thread and saw my post on the first page.. lol
Been about 5 months since I gave up on Untold. Playing through Etrian Mystery Dungeon has me wanting to go and finish it up though.
Seems like I'm on the 4th stratum, hope I can finish it before Untold 2 is out.
Eh.
If you haven't done so already, nab up EO2, and beat it first.
That way you can appreciate all of the fast fun brokeness of low HP yet high damage bosses vs Ecstasy + Revenge (pro tip: E + R =
Speaking of the Untold games, I have every Etrian Odyssey except for the Untold games. Are there gameplay and graphic updates for them, or are they just basically the same game + story mode bolted onto the 3DS cartridge?
If they updated the gameplay for EO1, I would totally go back and play it agian. Playing it after even EO2 was like pulling teeth.
If they updated the gameplay for EO1, I would totally go back and play it agian. Playing it after even EO2 was like pulling teeth.
There's a ton of gameplay updates in the Untold games even if you never touch the story mode at all. Skills are rebalanced, the rest penalty is reduced, even the mazes have new stuff to deal with. It's a pretty nice update for the most part.
Hikami
Member
Not really interested in the classic mode of etrian games for various reasons
only plan on playing the Untold games and maybe EO5 once we see what it's like
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
Untold is great, I tried to play the Story mode but it was boring as fuck so I deleted my save file that and started it again in Classic mode, it's really good even if you already played EO1, I'm sure you're going to get nostalgic as hell when you play it.
My only problem is that I'd love to have the Gunner and Highlander as classes in classic mode, gladly they fixed that for Untold 2 as you can also play Highlander and Princess in Classic.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
For me its more the party makeup that they give you. At least Untold 2 is far superior with its party balance for the story characters.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
I agree so much, the party in 1 is so fucking boring.
Give me a Hexer or something!
in 2 we get a Princess and War Magus at least.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
That and the MC is insanely strong when he turns into that other form.
why? you know it's gonna be the same as the mainline games
do you really need a narrative?
Hikami
Member
no
the lack of narrative isn't why I dislike the mainline games, it's the character art for (most of) the classes
...I have bad news for you.
Hikami
Member
No, but I'd say it's veeeeery unlikely that the character designer will be anyone else than Yuji Himukai, like with all the previous installments.
Like, almost next to no chance.
Hikami
Member
I didn't say I disliked his character designs, I do like some of them
It just depends.
for example; like the first one, dislike the second one
the whole "huge heads, chibi/child-like" designs are what I'm not a fan of
Wouldn't really be a problem if you could switch character arts around like you could in say, Demon Gaze for example. But as far as I know you can't do that in EO games right?
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Yeah considering the artwork is the main reason why people buy the game, highly doubt they will change the artist also.
I didn't say I disliked his character designs, I do like some of them
It just depends.
for example; like the first one, dislike the second one
the whole "huge heads, chibi/child-like" designs are what I'm not a fan of
Wouldn't really be a problem if you could switch character arts around like you could in say, Demon Gaze for example. But as far as I know you can't do that in EO games right?
Yeah you cant change it in EO as the classes have preset portraits w/ color variations thats about it. Cant go freestyle with them.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
I'd drop this series the second Yuji Himukai wasn't the character designer.
Also:
> not liking original Shishou
Also:
> not liking original Shishou
I didn't say I disliked his character designs, I do like some of them
It just depends.
for example; like the first one, dislike the second one
the whole "huge heads, chibi/child-like" designs are what I'm not a fan of
Wouldn't really be a problem if you could switch character arts around like you could in say, Demon Gaze for example. But as far as I know you can't do that in EO games right?
Well, I'd say Himukai is getting better with proportions with each installment in the series, so I guess waiting for EOU2 and EO5 would be more appropriate for you.
Well, it is for some people at least ( =‿=)
ikr
E_Darkness
Member
Maybe it is because I don't care about the character designs much, but I'd drop it if Yuzo Koshiro wasn't the composer.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
Then take that avatar off, you traitor!
Damn the series has an amazing team, best character designer + composer combo.
Ayyyy, I just took down the Great Dragon. Loading yourself up with fire resists really cripples its damage output.
Btw, my party's currently in the 70s and i'm close to finishing the postgame dungeon... am I ready for the postgame final boss or will I need to grind to 99 to take it down?
Btw, my party's currently in the 70s and i'm close to finishing the postgame dungeon... am I ready for the postgame final boss or will I need to grind to 99 to take it down?
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
I was in my early 80's when I killed the final post-game boss and the final dragon.
All my team was retired when they reached level 40 and I did grind for some stat books, so that helped.
Congrats for the victory!
Unless your party has been tailor-made to take down the ultimate bonus boss, I'd say it's rather unlikely that you'll be able to beat it without being in your 80s-90s at least. Try to beat all the dragons first.
In EO4? You can definitely finish the postgame boss without being level 99 *with chems* (but don't expect a speed kill). In EO1U on Expert... well...
Without chemicals it's tougher than the EOU bonus boss on Expert though.
Well, so much for the DLC idea. I just saw the trailer for Untold 2's classic mode, and it mentioned 13 classes. It'd be 14 if the Highlander was included by default.
I'm sure V's art is going to be more in line with his recent stuff and have better proportions. I forgot what they were for (I think they were Untold trading cards or something), but he actually redrew some of the original classes in his modern style. The difference was night and day.
And no, I don't think you can mix and match portraits and classes. Maybe class changing would work, but I've never used it.
I like both, but I see what you mean. The thing is, though, that you're comparing Himukai's art from 2007 (back when he was pretty much a nobody) with stuff he made five years later. The Untold games really highlight how much he's grown because all of the old and new art's right next to each other.
I'm sure V's art is going to be more in line with his recent stuff and have better proportions. I forgot what they were for (I think they were Untold trading cards or something), but he actually redrew some of the original classes in his modern style. The difference was night and day.
And no, I don't think you can mix and match portraits and classes. Maybe class changing would work, but I've never used it.
Yeah, it's part of the reason why I kind of wish Koshiro scored PQ and did his interpretation of Persona's style.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
I REALLY like the art, I don't think they would ever replace him so whatever.
we're already getting trailers? when is this game dropping?
I need to finish Mystery Dungeon and replay Untold ASAP!
E_Darkness
Member
Yeah, since two weeks ago. There's only two so far, but the placeholder date's early August.
Fafnir class trailer
Classic mode trailer
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
I would die if I had to wait that much.
Seems crazy that in NA we didn't get a single EO game last year and now we're getting trailers for Untold 2 when Mystery Dungeon just came out.
E_Darkness
Member
I just realised my girlfriend gave me back my old DSi recently. I might try and finish EO3 now. By finish I mean continue from where I left off which was basically the very start of EO3. I may as well just restart EO3 actually. I barely made any progress. I'm just a B3F.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
We had EOIV and EOU1 in 2013, so this year isn't that special. Just means no EO in 2016.
shut up
It's never a bad time to start EO3 again.
E_Darkness
Member
We had EOIV and EOU1 in 2013, so this year isn't that special. Just means no EO in 2016.
It's okay... Europe will...
*cries harder*
you cant shut me up
whiterabbit
Member
It's true, 2013 was a good year for Etrian Odyssey.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
I'm more lethal than the Atlus Police.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Why? You speak the truth.