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[Radical_3d]

Probably for a price reduction of the digital console, coming soon.

Is this the hopium everybody keeps talking about?

 

[clappedcheeks]

Er .. ok ? I said 600 something as well and reverting back to 825GB *after* doing 1TB for almost two years, since the Slim launched, is a weird choice.

No lies detected.

Reduced storage? The "1TB" already offers only 600 something usable GB after the system reserved portions.

What a weird choice to make this far into the generation.

You misunderstood my post. Your bolded statement says the current 1TB is only 600 usable, when it's the original ps5 that is nearer that amount as it's a 825GB drive.

 

[adamsapple]

You misunderstood my post. Your bolded statement says the current 1TB is only 600 usable, when it's the original ps5 that is nearer that amount as it's a 825GB drive.

I thought the quotation marks were a giveaway. Yes, bro we know the base PS5 didn't ship with 1TB.

 

[owandeseis]

Where are the 'please understand' folks?

More dumb than Sony are their fanboys. Imagine increasing the price while reducing the storage.

Full of these on Era lmao, i'd understand if Sony was struggling with their profits, but making more money in 4 years than in the previous 25 ones together? This has nothing to do with Trump or whatever and it's all them testing waters about how much can they squeeze their customers while raising profits before the sales start getting bad.

Weird take but even tho one could say Playstation has dominated in the console space since Sony started with this, i'd say they only recently learnt how to play this game and run the business, maybe it's the lack of competition which also helps, but it seems now that discounting the console price over the years is a mistake.

 

[Fake]

'This is the world now. A world with a smaller SSD storage.' lmao

 

[KloetenQuetsche]

Not sure if companies had to tell the free space available on a running system by law?

 

[//DEVIL//]

I didn't know there is a 825 module possible.

Isn't this what is the actual storage is ? Looks like a typo fuck up to me

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

Full of these on Era lmao, i'd understand if Sony was struggling with their profits, but making more money in 4 years than in the previous 25 ones together? This has nothing to do with Trump or whatever and it's all them testing waters about how much can they squeeze their customers while raising profits before the sales start getting bad.

Weird take but even tho one could say Playstation has dominated in the console space since Sony started with this, i'd say they only recently learnt how to play this game and run the business, maybe it's the lack of competition which also helps, but it seems now that discounting the console price over the years is a mistake.

I think it's more that this is an industry problem...and looking at only Sony makes no sense.

Nintendo literally increased Switch 1 price this year...a console that released first in 2017...and after releasing Switch 2. I mean...how much is it to produce one unit at this point? This is talking about a company with their games at 90 euros.

Not a single one of these companies is struggling with their profits. Nintendo was never this healthy, MS stock has never been this high, Sony made more money this gen than all others...together.

 

[scarlet0pimp]

It kind of makes sense since they extra chips required to make a 1tb ps5 obviously cost some money so saving them per device means extra profit.
Does not make sense though from a customer point of view, surely the cost of these chips has fallen in the last 4 years, I think the chips used for the SSD in the launch model were pretty expensive since they were pretty cutting edge at the time. Now they must be cheaper though, unless they are unique to only sony and so havnt dropped in price.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

Any news about Playstation... It's always bad news.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Got to get those margins up. This gen has show two things.

1. Consoles go up in price with the same specs

2. Consoles get the same price with worse specs

 

[Miyazaki’s Slave]

Its the EU...they probably need to state USABLE space on the packaging or get sued into oblivion by people who generate GDP through litigious action rather than actually making anything of value in their countries.

 

[asdasdasdbb]

Its the EU...they probably need to state USABLE space on the packaging or get sued into oblivion by people who generate GDP through litigious action rather than actually making anything of value in their countries.

Sounds like the EU allright.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

Europe is Playstation's strongest territory by far (compared to PC) and they keep treating them the worst lmao.

The new Sony boss, that Totoki man is the best CEO the company like ever, at least financially talking, i expect more and more record profits, time to invest in Sony

Totoki???

If it is the worst

 

[Zathalus]

Its the EU...they probably need to state USABLE space on the packaging or get sued into oblivion by people who generate GDP through litigious action rather than actually making anything of value in their countries.

In reality (not wherever you are) the Netherlands manufactures the machines that both Intel and TSMC actually use to make chips. Just as an example somewhat relevant to this thread.

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

Europe is Playstation's strongest territory by far (compared to PC) and they keep treating them the worst lmao.

The new Sony boss, that Totoki man is the best CEO the company like ever, at least financially talking, i expect more and more record profits, time to invest in Sony

I mean...that's actually one of the reasons why PS has been failing in some aspects...they are now ruled by suits and the games come second.

 

[MikeM]

Tariffs and TSMC increasing pricing recently. Its likely either this or increase pricing some more.

 

[StereoVsn]

'This is the world now. A world with a smaller SSD storage.' lmao

"Market conditions", "tariffs", "please understand"…

Oh yeah, highest profits vs all previous gens combined.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Youre in luck if youre a gamer in China. Sony reduced the price of PS5 the past week.

 

[Fbh]

This is basically a disguised price increase, this generation has been an ultimate early-adopter's win.

Yup.
Taking a note from the food industry playbook. Rather than increasing the price you reduce the content (and keep the packaging near the same size).
I think they call it "Shrinkflation"

 

[mckmas8808]

The meme that best defines PS5 without a doubt.

Yeah this is odd. Guess we'll see in a few weeks.

 

[Miyazaki’s Slave]

In reality (not wherever you are) the Netherlands manufactures the machines that both Intel and TSMC actually use to make chips. Just as an example somewhat relevant to this thread.

 

[mckmas8808]

Got to get those margins up. This gen has show two things.

1. Consoles go up in price with the same specs

2. Consoles get the same price with worse specs

I'm confused......why are people saying this console is coming with worse specs?

 

[Bojji]

Not sure if companies had to tell the free space available on a running system by law?

Sounds like the EU allright.

This was never the case, HDDs, SSDs, consoles - were always showing full memory amount and what is available for users.

So new PS5 DE owners need to prepare for less than 700GB usable space, two COD games give or take..

I'm confused......why are people saying this console is coming with worse specs?

Right now DE model is 1TB, isn't it? This one will replace it for the same price (with less space).

 

[splattered]

Kinda funny to see all these companies shitting the bed so hard... like wtf people

 

[The_Mike]

Probably for a price reduction of the digital console, coming soon.

 

[xrnzaaas]

On the original PS5 the SSD was ~800GB with actual storage being in the 600s. Looks to me like they had a warehouse full of the old stuff and thought they'd use them.

Right, I remembered it wrong, my og PS5 also has 825GB (not accounting for space taken by the system). They really are cost cutting wherever they can.

 

[Saber]

Probably for a price reduction of the digital console, coming soon.

Hopium + copium at best.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Yup.
Taking a note from the food industry playbook. Rather than increasing the price you reduce the content (and keep the packaging near the same size).
I think they call it "Shrinkflation"

That's correct. Looks like Sony is taking a page from tried and true consumer goods industry strategies.

Same price, smaller quantity.

Another tactic is same price, worse quality/ingredients hoping nobody notices.

Or crappier packaging too. Though to be fair, sometimes packaging changes can be legit good (smaller form factor or better artwork). But most of the time it's for costs savings. For example, I noticed the past few months the Dominos Pizza near me now comes in boring brown boxes instead of their classic white. It's not too often a company wants to increase the price of packaging.

 

[Ebrietas]

People better get used to this. Tariffs and global money printing will make you pay more for the same things or pay the same for less. You haven't seen anything yet.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

I'm confused......why are people saying this console is coming with worse specs?

Because right now PS5 has 1TB SSD. It increased from 825gb at launch. Now a new version is going back to 825gb at the same price.

 

[Moses85]

If true

 

[asdasdasdbb]

This was never the case, HDDs, SSDs, consoles - were always showing full memory amount and what is available for users.

I think the point is that this is (most likely) Sony repackaging because space is taken up by the OS, etc and some random EU regulation requiring them to do so.

 

[Bojji]

I think the point is that this is (most likely) Sony repackaging because space is taken up by the OS, etc and some random EU regulation requiring them to do so.

I never heard about it (not saying this isn't the case).

 

[StreetsofBeige]

I think the point is that this is (most likely) Sony repackaging because space is taken up by the OS, etc and some random EU regulation requiring them to do so.

If that was the case, the new Slim Standard model using the same new chassis would be renamed 825gb. But it's still being labeled as 1TB.

 

[Zathalus]

Hey, you're the one who brought up some asinine claim about the EU not making anything of value. If you don't want to get called out on bullshit, just don't post something so stupid.

 

[dragonyeuw]

So increase price, reduce storage( what's the difference to Sony in supplying an 825gb vs 1Tb for mass produced consoles? A couple dollars saved?), maintain increased price.

 

[ReBurn]

I didn't know there is a 825 module possible.

Isn't this what is the actual storage is ? Looks like a typo fuck up to me

Fat PS5 launched with 825. This is just a return to form.

 

[mckmas8808]

Because right now PS5 has 1TB SSD. It increased from 825gb at launch. Now a new version is going back to 825gb at the same price.

Ahhhh....okay. I was a launch PS5 owner so 825GB is all I knew about.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

So increase price, reduce storage( what's the difference to Sony in supplying an 825gb vs 1Tb for mass produced consoles? A couple dollars saved?), maintain increased price.

Reducing the costs going from 1TB to 825gb is going to be hardly anything. Actually, you'd think it might cost more since an 825gb SSD is a weird number you only get in launch PS5's. A standard amount would be 512gb, 1TB, 2TB which would logically sound like has cost efficiencies. Guess not.

Checking Best Buy USA prices, the retail price of an 1 TB SSD is on avg $100. And the PS5 SSD link, a 1 TB SSD goes $150-ish. And this is retail prices.

The adjustment going from 1 TB to 825gb at manufacturing cost is going to be negligible. Probably save $10.

 

[Clear]

Calling bullshit on this. The likelihood of it coincidentally dropping back to the original size as the launch models - because lets not forget that digital-only and bd-equipped models use literally IDENTICAL motherboards - seems pretty improbable.

I suspect there's some legit confusion due to the way the system reserves space versus the stated capacity of a 1Tb SSD, but a lot of it is the usual bad-faith fear mongering, no doubt.

 

[Klosshufvud]

I hate this piece of shit company so much now. Absolute dead waste this entire gen.

 

[zedinen]

Europe is Playstation's strongest territory by far (compared to PC) and they keep treating them the worst lmao.

Europe WAS Playstation's strongest territory.

The PS5 is 8 million units behind LTD PS4 sales in the US and 20 million units behind LTD PS4 sales in Europe.

The new Sony boss, that Totoki man is the best CEO the company like ever, at least financially talking,

Totoki is a failed bean counter who invested PlayStation cash flows (highly profitable segment) in Music and Pictures (low profitable segments), whose career was saved by PS5 massive success,

has no shame ("PlayStation lacks understanding of how to generate sustainable profits (Feb 2024)")


PlayStation operating income margin

FY (2020 - 2023) -> 9.22% (Return on invested capital 22.3%)
FY (1995 - 2019) -> 4.46%



and is willing to destroy PlayStation growth (e.g. Europe, Japan, soon the US) in order to extract more cash, manipulate EPS and the stock price.

Buybacks can have legitimate strategic benefits, but they can also be used to disguise results and for stock manipulation.


May 24 ¥8.52B

Jun 24 ¥35.21B

Jul 24 ¥53.59B

Aug 24 ¥60.27B

Sep 24 ¥36.90B

Oct 24 ¥42.56B

Nov 24 ¥12.92B

Feb 25 ¥6.60B

March 25 ¥21.32B

May 25 ¥30.96B

Jun 25 ¥40.29B

Jul 25 ¥41.90B

Aug 25 ¥60.90B

i expect more and more record profits, time to invest in Sony

Sure, in FY25 and FY26.

80 million customers, record ARPU and GTA.

Good luck after FY26.

 

[dragonyeuw]

Reducing the costs going from 1TB to 825gb is going to be hardly anything. Actually, you'd think it might cost more since an 825gb SSD is a weird number you only get in launch PS5's. A standard amount would be 512gb, 1TB, 2TB which would logically sound like has cost efficiencies. Guess not.

Checking Best Buy USA prices, the retail price of an 1 TB SSD is on avg $100. And the PS5 SSD link, a 1 TB SSD goes $150-ish. And this is retail prices.

The adjustment going from 1 TB to 825gb at manufacturing cost is going to be negligible. Probably save $10.

I just saw an article on Bluesky( its in French so not much sense posting it here) effectively saying this move is aimed at avoiding further price increases.

Lol, these companies ain't even trying to pretend to give a hint of a fuck anymore.

 

[BennyBlanco]

Youre in luck if youre a gamer in China. Sony reduced the price of PS5 the past week.

Meanwhile in China

 

[Bojji]

Europe WAS Playstation's strongest territory.

The PS5 is 8 million units behind LTD PS4 sales in the US and 20 million units behind LTD PS4 sales in Europe.





Totoki is a failed bean counter who invested PlayStation cash flows (highly profitable segment) in Music and Pictures (low profitable segments), whose career was saved by PS5 massive success,

has no shame ("PlayStation lacks understanding of how to generate sustainable profits (Feb 2024)")


PlayStation operating income margin

FY (2020 - 2023) -> 9.22% (Return on invested capital 22.3%)
FY (1995 - 2019) -> 4.46%



and is willing to destroy PlayStation growth (e.g. Europe, Japan, soon the US) in order to extract more cash, manipulate EPS and the stock price.

Buybacks can have legitimate strategic benefits, but they can also be used to disguise results and for stock manipulation.


May 24 ¥8.52B

Jun 24 ¥35.21B

Jul 24 ¥53.59B

Aug 24 ¥60.27B

Sep 24 ¥36.90B

Oct 24 ¥42.56B

Nov 24 ¥12.92B

Feb 25 ¥6.60B

March 25 ¥21.32B

May 25 ¥30.96B

Jun 25 ¥40.29B

Jul 25 ¥41.90B

Aug 25 ¥60.90B




Sure, in FY25 and FY26.

80 million customers, record ARPU and GTA.

Good luck after FY26.

 

[Clear]

ITT people are pretending China is a consumerist Utopia and that prices of everything from fuel to food haven't increased drastically over the past 5 years...

Priceless

 

[Miyazaki’s Slave]

Hey, you're the one who brought up some asinine claim about the EU not making anything of value. If you don't want to get called out on bullshit, just don't post something so stupid.

Okay...Cadbury chocolate is amazing.

Is that better? Oh...I probably have to pay a besmirching tax...apologies!

 

[Windle Poons]

Never mind that, when they gonna release black plates for the Pro?????

 

[Zathalus]

Okay...Cadbury chocolate is amazing.

Is that better? Oh...I probably have to pay a besmirching tax...apologies!

No tax, just tariffs.