Radical_3d
Member
Is this the hopium everybody keeps talking about?
EU Revision of PS5 Digital Slim Edition Chassis 'E' with reduced storage
clappedcheeks
Member
You misunderstood my post. Your bolded statement says the current 1TB is only 600 usable, when it's the original ps5 that is nearer that amount as it's a 825GB drive.
Reduced storage? The "1TB" already offers only 600 something usable GB after the system reserved portions.
What a weird choice to make this far into the generation.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I thought the quotation marks were a giveaway. Yes, bro we know the base PS5 didn't ship with 1TB.
owandeseis
Member
Full of these on Era lmao, i'd understand if Sony was struggling with their profits, but making more money in 4 years than in the previous 25 ones together? This has nothing to do with Trump or whatever and it's all them testing waters about how much can they squeeze their customers while raising profits before the sales start getting bad.
Weird take but even tho one could say Playstation has dominated in the console space since Sony started with this, i'd say they only recently learnt how to play this game and run the business, maybe it's the lack of competition which also helps, but it seems now that discounting the console price over the years is a mistake.
Fake
Member
'This is the world now. A world with a smaller SSD storage.' lmao
KloetenQuetsche
Member
Not sure if companies had to tell the free space available on a running system by law?
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
I think it's more that this is an industry problem...and looking at only Sony makes no sense.
Full of these on Era lmao, i'd understand if Sony was struggling with their profits, but making more money in 4 years than in the previous 25 ones together? This has nothing to do with Trump or whatever and it's all them testing waters about how much can they squeeze their customers while raising profits before the sales start getting bad.
Weird take but even tho one could say Playstation has dominated in the console space since Sony started with this, i'd say they only recently learnt how to play this game and run the business, maybe it's the lack of competition which also helps, but it seems now that discounting the console price over the years is a mistake.
Nintendo literally increased Switch 1 price this year...a console that released first in 2017...and after releasing Switch 2. I mean...how much is it to produce one unit at this point? This is talking about a company with their games at 90 euros.
Not a single one of these companies is struggling with their profits. Nintendo was never this healthy, MS stock has never been this high, Sony made more money this gen than all others...together.
scarlet0pimp
Member
It kind of makes sense since they extra chips required to make a 1tb ps5 obviously cost some money so saving them per device means extra profit.
Does not make sense though from a customer point of view, surely the cost of these chips has fallen in the last 4 years, I think the chips used for the SSD in the launch model were pretty expensive since they were pretty cutting edge at the time. Now they must be cheaper though, unless they are unique to only sony and so havnt dropped in price.
Does not make sense though from a customer point of view, surely the cost of these chips has fallen in the last 4 years, I think the chips used for the SSD in the launch model were pretty expensive since they were pretty cutting edge at the time. Now they must be cheaper though, unless they are unique to only sony and so havnt dropped in price.
Heimdall_Xtreme
Hermen Hulst Fanclub's #1 Member
Any news about Playstation... It's always bad news.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Got to get those margins up. This gen has show two things.
1. Consoles go up in price with the same specs
2. Consoles get the same price with worse specs
1. Consoles go up in price with the same specs
2. Consoles get the same price with worse specs
Miyazaki’s Slave
Gold Member
Its the EU...they probably need to state USABLE space on the packaging or get sued into oblivion by people who generate GDP through litigious action rather than actually making anything of value in their countries.
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asdasdasdbb
Member
Sounds like the EU allright.
Heimdall_Xtreme
Hermen Hulst Fanclub's #1 Member
Zathalus
Member
In reality (not wherever you are) the Netherlands manufactures the machines that both Intel and TSMC actually use to make chips. Just as an example somewhat relevant to this thread.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
I mean...that's actually one of the reasons why PS has been failing in some aspects...they are now ruled by suits and the games come second.
OLED_Gamer
Member
Tariffs and TSMC increasing pricing recently. Its likely either this or increase pricing some more.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
"Market conditions", "tariffs", "please understand"…
Oh yeah, highest profits vs all previous gens combined.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Youre in luck if youre a gamer in China. Sony reduced the price of PS5 the past week.
Fbh
Member
Yup.
Taking a note from the food industry playbook. Rather than increasing the price you reduce the content (and keep the packaging near the same size).
I think they call it "Shrinkflation"
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
The meme that best defines PS5 without a doubt.
Yeah this is odd. Guess we'll see in a few weeks.
Miyazaki’s Slave
Gold Member
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
I'm confused......why are people saying this console is coming with worse specs?
Bojji
Gold Member
This was never the case, HDDs, SSDs, consoles - were always showing full memory amount and what is available for users.
So new PS5 DE owners need to prepare for less than 700GB usable space, two COD games give or take..
Right now DE model is 1TB, isn't it? This one will replace it for the same price (with less space).
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splattered
Member
Kinda funny to see all these companies shitting the bed so hard... like wtf people
The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
xrnzaaas
Member
Right, I remembered it wrong, my og PS5 also has 825GB (not accounting for space taken by the system). They really are cost cutting wherever they can.
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Saber
Newd Member
Hopium + copium at best.
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
That's correct. Looks like Sony is taking a page from tried and true consumer goods industry strategies.
Same price, smaller quantity.
Another tactic is same price, worse quality/ingredients hoping nobody notices.
Or crappier packaging too. Though to be fair, sometimes packaging changes can be legit good (smaller form factor or better artwork). But most of the time it's for costs savings. For example, I noticed the past few months the Dominos Pizza near me now comes in boring brown boxes instead of their classic white. It's not too often a company wants to increase the price of packaging.
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Because right now PS5 has 1TB SSD. It increased from 825gb at launch. Now a new version is going back to 825gb at the same price.
asdasdasdbb
Member
I think the point is that this is (most likely) Sony repackaging because space is taken up by the OS, etc and some random EU regulation requiring them to do so.
Bojji
Gold Member
I never heard about it (not saying this isn't the case).
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
If that was the case, the new Slim Standard model using the same new chassis would be renamed 825gb. But it's still being labeled as 1TB.
Zathalus
Member
Hey, you're the one who brought up some asinine claim about the EU not making anything of value. If you don't want to get called out on bullshit, just don't post something so stupid.
dragonyeuw
Member
So increase price, reduce storage( what's the difference to Sony in supplying an 825gb vs 1Tb for mass produced consoles? A couple dollars saved?), maintain increased price.
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ReBurn
Gold Member
Fat PS5 launched with 825. This is just a return to form.
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Ahhhh....okay. I was a launch PS5 owner so 825GB is all I knew about.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Reducing the costs going from 1TB to 825gb is going to be hardly anything. Actually, you'd think it might cost more since an 825gb SSD is a weird number you only get in launch PS5's. A standard amount would be 512gb, 1TB, 2TB which would logically sound like has cost efficiencies. Guess not.So increase price, reduce storage( what's the difference to Sony in supplying an 825gb vs 1Tb for mass produced consoles? A couple dollars saved?), maintain increased price.
Checking Best Buy USA prices, the retail price of an 1 TB SSD is on avg $100. And the PS5 SSD link, a 1 TB SSD goes $150-ish. And this is retail prices.
The adjustment going from 1 TB to 825gb at manufacturing cost is going to be negligible. Probably save $10.
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Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Calling bullshit on this. The likelihood of it coincidentally dropping back to the original size as the launch models - because lets not forget that digital-only and bd-equipped models use literally IDENTICAL motherboards - seems pretty improbable.
I suspect there's some legit confusion due to the way the system reserves space versus the stated capacity of a 1Tb SSD, but a lot of it is the usual bad-faith fear mongering, no doubt.
I suspect there's some legit confusion due to the way the system reserves space versus the stated capacity of a 1Tb SSD, but a lot of it is the usual bad-faith fear mongering, no doubt.
Klosshufvud
Banned
I hate this piece of shit company so much now. Absolute dead waste this entire gen.
Europe WAS Playstation's strongest territory.
The PS5 is 8 million units behind LTD PS4 sales in the US and 20 million units behind LTD PS4 sales in Europe.
Totoki is a failed bean counter who invested PlayStation cash flows (highly profitable segment) in Music and Pictures (low profitable segments), whose career was saved by PS5 massive success,
has no shame ("PlayStation lacks understanding of how to generate sustainable profits (Feb 2024)")
PlayStation operating income margin
FY (2020 - 2023) -> 9.22% (Return on invested capital 22.3%)
FY (1995 - 2019) -> 4.46%
and is willing to destroy PlayStation growth (e.g. Europe, Japan, soon the US) in order to extract more cash, manipulate EPS and the stock price.
Buybacks can have legitimate strategic benefits, but they can also be used to disguise results and for stock manipulation.
May 24 ¥8.52B
Jun 24 ¥35.21B
Jul 24 ¥53.59B
Aug 24 ¥60.27B
Sep 24 ¥36.90B
Oct 24 ¥42.56B
Nov 24 ¥12.92B
Feb 25 ¥6.60B
March 25 ¥21.32B
May 25 ¥30.96B
Jun 25 ¥40.29B
Jul 25 ¥41.90B
Aug 25 ¥60.90B
Sure, in FY25 and FY26.
80 million customers, record ARPU and GTA.
Good luck after FY26.
dragonyeuw
Member
I just saw an article on Bluesky( its in French so not much sense posting it here) effectively saying this move is aimed at avoiding further price increases.
Lol, these companies ain't even trying to pretend to give a hint of a fuck anymore.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Bojji
Gold Member
Europe WAS Playstation's strongest territory.
The PS5 is 8 million units behind LTD PS4 sales in the US and 20 million units behind LTD PS4 sales in Europe.
Totoki is a failed bean counter who invested PlayStation cash flows (highly profitable segment) in Music and Pictures (low profitable segments), whose career was saved by PS5 massive success,
has no shame ("PlayStation lacks understanding of how to generate sustainable profits (Feb 2024)")
PlayStation operating income margin
FY (2020 - 2023) -> 9.22% (Return on invested capital 22.3%)
FY (1995 - 2019) -> 4.46%
and is willing to destroy PlayStation growth (e.g. Europe, Japan, soon the US) in order to extract more cash, manipulate EPS and the stock price.
Buybacks can have legitimate strategic benefits, but they can also be used to disguise results and for stock manipulation.
May 24 ¥8.52B
Jun 24 ¥35.21B
Jul 24 ¥53.59B
Aug 24 ¥60.27B
Sep 24 ¥36.90B
Oct 24 ¥42.56B
Nov 24 ¥12.92B
Feb 25 ¥6.60B
March 25 ¥21.32B
May 25 ¥30.96B
Jun 25 ¥40.29B
Jul 25 ¥41.90B
Aug 25 ¥60.90B
Sure, in FY25 and FY26.
80 million customers, record ARPU and GTA.
Good luck after FY26.
Miyazaki’s Slave
Gold Member
Okay...Cadbury chocolate is amazing.
Is that better? Oh...I probably have to pay a besmirching tax...apologies!
Windle Poons
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
Never mind that, when they gonna release black plates for the Pro?????
Zathalus
Member
No tax, just tariffs.