Eurogamer: Xbox Series X/S at five years old - at this point is there anything else left to say?

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I honestly had high hopes for the Xbox Series X (and saw the huge potential in its cheaper sibling, the Series S, despite cries from certain quarters about how it was going to hold back game development), a console from a Microsoft that had learned from the failures of the Xbox One, buoyed by a raft of game studios being given the freedom to make games they wanted to make. Perhaps the fact that the Series consoles launched without a single exclusive (there were plenty of enhanced games from the previous generation from Xbox) should have alarmed me more, but I felt pretty good about the launch even if it didn't feel especially new.

Game Pass, of course, played a large part in the fun. Unless you're very lucky, a new console and a game (maybe two) is a fairly typical launch experience. It's an expensive business, so decisions have to be made over which games you're experiencing a new generation with. With Game Pass my Series X had access to the likes of Forza Horizon 4 and Gears 5 enhanced, plus Tetris Effect and loads of older games. Halo Infinite had missed the launch window quite spectacularly (and would eventually disappoint against expectations a year later), but next-gen was here and I was raring to go.

Five years on from that optimism it's hard to think of much to say about Xbox and the Series consoles that hasn't already been written about and discussed ad nauseum, most of it negative. In short, sentiment around the Xbox brand feels like it's at an all time low, the result of the division's parent, Microsoft, enacting a litany of layoffs and project cancelations, first-party games releasing on rival platforms such as PS5, and a technological involvement in Israel's occupation of Gaza and killing of Palestinians that resulted in a call to boycott Xbox.

Add to this a rise in price of Xbox consoles, meaning the Series X and S both cost more today than at launch, and a hike to Game Pass Ultimate's monthly cost, and it's easy to see why more and more people are wondering why they should bother with Xbox at all. The Xbox is part of some of my fondest gaming memories, the 360 potentially being my favourite console of all time, yet even I wonder if it's time to just move on. Much of what I loved about the brand in the early days (Halo, PGR, Rare, Lionhead, to roll off the first to mind) is either gone or a shadow of what it was.

At various points over the last eight years or so, ever since the release of the Xbox One X (a console so good I was genuinely sad to put it away when the Series X arrived) I've felt that Xbox wasn't getting what it deserved, whether it be recognition of the quality of its games, buy-in to the continued excellence of Game Pass (at least in consumer value terms), or acknowledgement that its services were often way ahead of the competition. With strong hardware and finally a more frequent rollout of big releases (thanks to those acquisitions), a way for Xbox to truly challenge PlayStation for the first time since the Xbox 360 looked like it could be on the cards. Then we somehow ended up here, years of work to reach a point that perhaps only the financial might of Microsoft could possibly achieve, only to exit that battle completely.

Consoles, for good and bad, have always tapped into our urge to take sides. You like that, but I like this more, so you are wrong and I am right. Your thing might be good, but my thing is better, so suck it. Not to that extreme, but at points over the last 25 years I've felt varying degrees of that. It's all gone now. For all Xbox's talk of a new upcoming generation of hardware, it's hard not to think of the division like I think of EA or Ubisoft, or any other firm that purely publishes video games. Microsoft likely doesn't care, its finances no longer stifled by only being able to serve a small portion of the gaming userbase, but here, five years on from the launch of the Xbox Series X and S, my connection to the brand is disappearing fast, and I'm not sure there's any way back.
 
I genuinely thought way back in 2020 that with great hardware, Bethesda and the rumoured Activision merger that we'd be back to the PS360 days with Xbox being neck and neck with Sony.

Even as far back as 2022 I though they'd compete.

If you told me back then that they'd just throw in the towel, put all their games on PlayStation, and ditch the console business for PC I'd have laughed you out of the forum.

That Activision merger really did a number on the Xbox division didn't it.
 
I genuinely thought way back in 2020 that with great hardware, Bethesda and the rumoured Activision merger that we'd be back to the PS360 days with Xbox being neck and neck with Sony.

Even as far back as 2022 I though they'd compete.

If you told me back then that they'd just throw in the towel, put all their games on PlayStation, and ditch the console business for PC I'd have laughed you out of the forum.

That Activision merger really did a number on the Xbox division didn't it.

Yup, that Activision deal put the spotlight on Xbox to Daddy Nutella and ultimately killed it as we knew it at the start of the Gen.
 
It's hard to think of much to say about Xbox and the Series consoles that hasn't already been written about and discussed ad nauseum, most of it negative.

Yup.

In short, sentiment around the Xbox brand feels like it's at an all time low, the result of the division's parent, Microsoft, enacting a litany of layoffs and project cancelations, first-party games releasing on rival platforms such as PS5, and a technological involvement in Israel's occupation of Gaza and killing of Palestinians that resulted in a call to boycott Xbox.

Never even heard of the last bit, but Eurogamer has to throw in the political nonsense, I guess.

And as usual, the blame is on "the division's parent, Microsoft," rather than where it belongs, on the doofuses within the division who made the decisions that led to this.
 
The One X still matters to me and my siblings, I feel the same way with my Series X, we barely knew it from buying shiny titles.
Sold the Series X, two years ago 11/2023.
I kept the old Xbone X in my bedroom as it has all the XB360 games with a small usb external hardrive. Lots of games that probly will never make it to PC, unless the 'Magnus' has some hardware to play them.
 
That must be a really comfortable job to be paid to write obvious things and feel like you put on an analysis of some sort.
 
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Sold the Series X, two years ago 11/2023.
I kept the old Xbone X in my bedroom as it has all the XB360 games with a small usb external hardrive. Lots of games that probly will never make it to PC, unless the 'Magnus' has some hardware to play them.
I hope it's an FPS boost/ a universal Input box out of the box and I mean it in a rich way like a modern PC upgrade.
 
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Eurogamer is even older and there sure is hell ain't much left to say about them either. Trash magazine.
 
I genuinely thought way back in 2020 that with great hardware, Bethesda and the rumoured Activision merger that we'd be back to the PS360 days with Xbox being neck and neck with Sony.

Even as far back as 2022 I though they'd compete.

If you told me back then that they'd just throw in the towel, put all their games on PlayStation, and ditch the console business for PC I'd have laughed you out of the forum.

That Activision merger really did a number on the Xbox division didn't it.
It shouldn't really have been a surprise to anyone anytime after all the documents came out during the trial with the FTC. They thought about throwing in the towel last gen let alone now.

I always thought that Microsoft would (could is a given being Microsoft) use their resources to keep the brand alive all the way up until they announced the first PlayStation ports (but especially after Forza Horizon).

That being said while the ABK acquisition may have been the final nail it all started back in 2016 with Xbox Play Anywhere. What was probably a big positive media moment at the time is what is actually responsible for everything IMO.

That must be a really comfortable job to be paid to write obvious things and feel like you put on an analysis of some sort.
Easy clicks.
 
Stopped reading at this:

"In short, sentiment around the Xbox brand feels like it's at an all time low, the result of the division's parent, Microsoft, enacting a litany of layoffs and project cancelations, first-party games releasing on rival platforms such as PS5, and a technological involvement in Israel's occupation of Gaza and killing of Palestinians that resulted in a call to boycott Xbox."

Get your shit together whoever the dumbass was that wrote this article. Seriously get a grip on life because this is pathetic. You write about games. If you don't like that quit and do something else.

Seriously, you forgot that part of their troubles was betting on crappy games or making crappy games. Yet somehow, kind of, blamed Israel for MS woes IMO. Pathetic.
 
*shuffles the deck*

"It must be Israel"

Make-Up Face GIF by Justin
 
How many "poor little Xbox " articles will we get in the next few months?

Strange change when the beginning of the year was flooded with "Xbox has a bright future"" Xbox Turning things around" & "Xbox Momentum" articles & posts
 
I genuinely thought way back in 2020 that with great hardware, Bethesda and the rumoured Activision merger that we'd be back to the PS360 days with Xbox being neck and neck with Sony.

Even as far back as 2022 I though they'd compete.

If you told me back then that they'd just throw in the towel, put all their games on PlayStation, and ditch the console business for PC I'd have laughed you out of the forum.

That Activision merger really did a number on the Xbox division didn't it.
If you told 2020 myself about Xbox first party going to PlayStation and raised GP to 30$ a month
I will thinking you're just a Blue Pony and with a block
 
The truth is no, it has been fun to watch the train slowly derail while its fans celebrated huge purchases that have ended the brand as it was, and to think that it was said that things would end badly.
 
I genuinely thought way back in 2020 that with great hardware, Bethesda and the rumoured Activision merger that we'd be back to the PS360 days with Xbox being neck and neck with Sony.

Even as far back as 2022 I though they'd compete.

If you told me back then that they'd just throw in the towel, put all their games on PlayStation, and ditch the console business for PC I'd have laughed you out of the forum.

That Activision merger really did a number on the Xbox division didn't it.

I was in a similar boat. Microsoft was poised to make a huge comeback this gen. They had so many things aligned. And then they fucked things up in pretty much every way imagineable.
 
I genuinely thought way back in 2020 that with great hardware, Bethesda and the rumoured Activision merger that we'd be back to the PS360 days with Xbox being neck and neck with Sony.

Even as far back as 2022 I though they'd compete.

If you told me back then that they'd just throw in the towel, put all their games on PlayStation, and ditch the console business for PC I'd have laughed you out of the forum.

That Activision merger really did a number on the Xbox division didn't it.
That acti-blizz buyout was textbook definition of this:
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I genuinely thought way back in 2020 that with great hardware, Bethesda and the rumoured Activision merger that we'd be back to the PS360 days with Xbox being neck and neck with Sony.

Even as far back as 2022 I though they'd compete.

If you told me back then that they'd just throw in the towel, put all their games on PlayStation, and ditch the console business for PC I'd have laughed you out of the forum.

That Activision merger really did a number on the Xbox division didn't it.
Same here. I thought they will expand on Halo Infinite with story expansions and bring back Bungie era mystery to Halo lore. But then 343's treatment of Bungie was leaked.
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After Halo 2A, Saber Interactive should have gotten another chance to update Halo CE in MCC anniversary graphics. Until then Halo CE classic mode is the way to play. I hope 343i's next game fails so hard they are forced to sell the Halo IP.
And they abandoned Halo Infinite storyline, to announce Halo on UE5. The truth is Microsoft has no respect for Bungie's Halo, its only a cash grab to them. No one who likes old school Halo should support them.
 
I love my Series X but unfortunately, when you throw all your eggs into 1 basket (gamepass) at the sacrifice of new 1 party games, well you will never win. Now they have the 1st party content but they put it everywhere BECAUSE of gamepass not making money and so it comes full circle. It effectively ruined the Xbox brand I once loved and favored and now they are a shell of their former selves, trying to make us believe that everything is now an Xbox, that lining up for games on a launch was pathetic and that renting games now is better than what it was back in the "old" days. Fuck Microsoft have completely lost the plot.
 
It's funny how they had every opportunity to succeed this Gen and found ever opportunity to not
I genuinely thought way back in 2020 that with great hardware, Bethesda and the rumoured Activision merger that we'd be back to the PS360 days with Xbox being neck and neck with Sony.

Even as far back as 2022 I though they'd compete.

If you told me back then that they'd just throw in the towel, put all their games on PlayStation, and ditch the console business for PC I'd have laughed you out of the forum.

That Activision merger really did a number on the Xbox division didn't it.
100% the same for me.
 
I genuinely thought way back in 2020 that with great hardware, Bethesda and the rumoured Activision merger that we'd be back to the PS360 days with Xbox being neck and neck with Sony.

Even as far back as 2022 I though they'd compete.

If you told me back then that they'd just throw in the towel, put all their games on PlayStation, and ditch the console business for PC I'd have laughed you out of the forum.

That Activision merger really did a number on the Xbox division didn't it.
Yeah, I think the verdict is still out on the ABK deal as far as what it means for 'Microsoft gaming' but as far as 'Xbox' goes and more specifically the *console* side, that deal basically was the death knell for the traditional approach. They are in 'maximum profit NOW' mode and selling 50ish million consoles with a handful of exclusives isn't going to net the kind of revenue the bigwigs above Phil's paygrade wants after shelling out 70B.
 
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