Unsalvageable trash, ruined the good will generated by the previous two. It actually feels like straight up trolling.
Evangelion 3.0 You Can (Not) Redo |OT| :Q
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Unsalvageable trash, ruined the good will generated by the previous two. It actually feels like straight up trolling.
It's not terrible, but it's not great either, even when compared to the previous two Rebuild films. It honestly feels like the second half of a movie rather than a movie in itself, since it just seems to suddenly throw you in the middle of things. There's worse out there, but this is a pretty disappointing film overall.
John Kowalski
Banned
It's very well done, for the most part. Some very bad scenes, but imo they aren't a bother considering how good the rest of them are. But it's wholly designed to destroy any expectations you might have. OST is excellent.
I don't think the movie is hard to understand if you focus on what it's offering rather than the minutia, and it fits the theme of the series rather well, straight up setting in stone the meaning of these movies.
TheVampire
Banned
I didn't like the third movie.
The first two were really good and I liked how the second movie started going in a different direction from the TV series but then the third movie with that 10 year time skip was shit.
Cuban Legend
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YAY! Nearby theater in Florida! I know what I'll be doing Jan 10th at 8:00pm!
Thinking back on it, they're actually pretty similar. The change in direction in Rebuild is like how the TV series shifted from typical shounen tropes mixed with some underlying weirdness in its first half to bleak, over-the-top mindfuck in its second half.
In other words, 2.0 is like the movies' equivalent of Magma Divers/Dance Like You Want to Win while 3.0 is like the mindrape, self-loathing introspection, teenage-decapitation episodes.
DrForester
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Same theater in Denver as the Madoka movie. Will probably see this depending on how I like the theater. I've never been there.
Cuban Legend
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The dub has been finished for a few months and has already been screened at a couple conventions. The DVD/Blu-Ray comes out in February.
I wish it was showing near me. I'd like to go see it in a theater, but the nearest one showing it is about three hours away.
meltingparappa
Member
GUH, no Georgia showings, and the NYC screenings are well after Christmas.
Too bad too, I was excited about the dub and want to see/hear it in an actual theater.
Too bad too, I was excited about the dub and want to see/hear it in an actual theater.
SteveWinwood
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I don't know why I even bothered clicking.
I'm tempted to hit that up too, though Raleighwood is a tad expensive once you order food and all that. Still, the idea of dinner and Eva 3.0 is kinda awesome.
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
People should not get their hopes up if they have not seen this.
Well it IS from Gainax. They've made trolling their viewers to an art form.
I wonder how many times "It feels like straight up trolling" was said in 1996/97 too. :lol
Aaron-Lagann
Banned
Awww yeah, Portland Oregon, here I come my sweet Shinji!
Really don't understand the hate here, I went in expecting more Evangelion and loved what I got because it was exactly that. One thing that I really started to appreciate with the series overall was when someone was talking about how the only times you get angry with Shinji are the times when Shinji is also angry, the writers are making you feel the same thing as the character. With that in mind, going in and being super confused by everything felt really intentional and cool instead of just plain annoying.
Looking forward to seeing it in a theater, even if I hate the dub.
lazybones18
Banned
Anyone else here going to the Maple Theater?
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
It made you angry because famously well-developed characters all acted like colossal shitheads who jumped straight of some mediocre anime or JRPG only for the sake of advancing a story that wasn't even any good.
Aaron-Lagann
Banned
I disagree that the story isn't good or that the characters acted out of the ordinary. We haven't seen most of the cast for a long time, so of course we won't know how they'd have changed, and Shinji is acting like Shinji always has. I don't see the issue here.
John Kowalski
Banned
Nnnnnnnno siree, he isn't. Rebuild Shinji is fair bit different, he has a much stronger sense of direction and self worth, as displayed
in this scene
And i agree that the complaints about the characters are a bit out of touch and too emotionally driven. With the exception of fanservice girl, they're all well handled and their introductions are spot on.
meltingparappa
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Rebuild Shinji is great because 2.0 built him up and he did something heroic that series Shinji could never bring himself to accomplish
and then 3.0 tore him down and made him relapse, causing him to pull the needles out of desperation which is what you'd expect him to do after everyone he's gotten close to hates him and the world is a much worse place because of him. How anyone could think of this as "out of character" is complete nonsense to me
John Kowalski
Banned
So, huh, the lack of communication is their defining personality trait? That's typical Eva.
Yep, 3.0 is very specific about
being even harsher with its message, which has morphed form the simple "you musn't run away" from the original show, into a more complex "you must build your own world", which 3.0 is quite obviously about.
DrForester
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2.0 stabilized all the characters I thought. They retained their old personalities but they weren't quite dialed to the extreme. Asuka was a bitch, but but as much of a bitch. Rei was a doll, but was given some personality to portray. And Shinji wasn't a total wet blanket, he had a bit of a spine.
meltingparappa
Member
Seriously. It's even right there
in the title. [Shinji] Can (not) Redo.
The theme of the entire movie is surprisingly straight forward in an otherwise purposefully obtuse series.
John Kowalski
Banned
Also, Fuyutsuki's
"Destroying the world is only too easy. Rebuilding it is not so simple, however." Also, the name of the goddamn series Rebuild of Evangelion.
That's not really how it's called.
meltingparappa
Member
Nope. That was the title of the article.
John Kowalski
Banned
All of the english titles were chose by the studio itself, so i'd fairly confident that they reflect the team's understanding of their own work.
My bad: it also was the tentative English title back when the new movies were first announced.
Anyway, point is, that title stopped being used after that point. Except by Western fans. And Wikipedia. And people who take Wikipedia articles at face value (and that might actually include some non-Japanese distributors).
I kinda doubt they knew what was going to happen in the third movie back then though!
John Kowalski
Banned
Huh, you're right. Well, it might still have meaning, right? I mean, they did use it at one point. Someone thought it up and thought that it was good enough to market the movies.
They probably had a good handle on the direction it would follow, though. I assume so, at least, given that even 1.0 and 2.0 displayed some strong signs that these movies would ultimately shape the story as something different than the original, particularly with the subtle links to the original story, which contrasted very strongly with the new elements. But 3.0 is so inherently different in form and content to even 2.0, though, so i don't know what to believe.
Yeah, there's "different" and there's "
14 year timeskip
Here are the extras for the DVD and Bluray release
http://shop.funimation.com/Shop/ShopProductDetail.ss?itemid=83958
http://shop.funimation.com/Shop/ShopProductDetail.ss?itemid=83958
distantmantra
Member
They didn't get the short done with Ghibli, either? It was left off the Hong Kong blu-ray release as well.
distantmantra
Member
I like the
time skip
IrgendwasmitRot
Member
Ha, just red that it gonna be released in germany in 2 weeks
meltingparappa
Member
I guess it would make more sense for the short to be included on the next Nausicaa release, whenever that happens.
distantmantra
Member
I heard it was on the Japanese Blu-ray, though. Must be a licensing issue.
I've got the HK Blu-ray. Pretty movie, but really bad.
Snkfanatic
Banned
Wasn't nearly as good as the first two but I will still buy it. Why? I don't know.
The English release of the DVD/Blu-Ray has been delayed until sometime later in 2014.
http://www.funimation.com/blog/?p=3142
http://www.funimation.com/blog/?p=3142
Hopefully it's to get the Ghibli short. But I've already kind of given up hope on that.
That blog post says it's because of the theatrical release.
Cuban Legend
Member
Any GAFers going to see 3.0 in Florida at the Fort Lauderdale Theater January 10th at 8:00pm?
I'll be there and I'll let ya'll know how it went.
I'll be there and I'll let ya'll know how it went.
Just watched this movie, it's terrible. I was hyped after the end of 2.0 what the fuck happened?? My brain hurts trying to understand what I was seeing. OMFG Shinji is dumb and easily manipulated.
What was the space intro? Were they trying to recover EVA-01?? Shinji was AFK for 14 years and when they revive/rescue him they act like nothing happened?? Why can't someone just tell him a TL
R version like Kaworu did? Misato should've pulled the trigger, that would've been an ending I could be happy with
R version like Kaworu did? Misato should've pulled the trigger, that would've been an ending I could be happy with- Status