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[eu pfhor ia]

no, but they are an armed group occupying gov't property and threatening violence. Sounds like terrorism to me. I guess they're lucky I'm not a judge/DA is what I mean.

 

[Slayven]

The police should wait them out, but if they start pointing guns I fully expect "the system works"

 

[Eighty Deuce]

no, but they are an armed group occupying gov't property and threatening violence. Sounds like terrorism to me. I guess they're lucky I'm not a judge/DA is what I mean.

Only way to deal with these assholes is to wait them out. Ramping up the response will instigate them and lead to violence. They only have so much food and water with no leverage. If they come out on their own it weakens thier movement and shows how fucking unreasonable they are. people seem to forget Waco lead to the Oklahoma City bombing.

 

[eu pfhor ia]

Only way to deal with these assholes is to wait them out. Ramping up the response will instigate them and lead to violence.

fair enough, but that's no reason this story can't end with them spending the majority of their lives in Club Fed (I'm not betting on that happening, but that would be the ideal outcome in my eyes)

 

[Eighty Deuce]

fair enough, but that's no reason this story can't end with them spending the majority of their lives in Club Fed (I'm not betting on that happening, but that would be the ideal outcome in my eyes)

They are trying to rile people up to join the movement, this can end if they show how toothless they are by waiting them out and having a peaceful end to the situation. They can take them into custody and charge them at that point.

 

[Slayven]

Let them get some camera time so folks can see how nutty they are.

 

[Mr.Mike]

Let them get some camera time so folks can see how nutty they are.

It doesn't seem to have worked with Trump.

 

[RiZ III]

Never heard of these guys before.

 

[entremet]

Waco 2: Oregon Boogaloo.

The Federal Government wants to avoid that disaster again, which is why these idiots have been given such a long leash.

They keep testing, though.

 

[Volimar]

So these guys are protesting because Saudi Arabia executed the Shia cleric right?

 

[MHWilliams]

What floors me is the vast difference in the reporting of this situation. From a standpoint on it being a bad situation, I'm sure the feds can talk it out, but imagine this same setup happening with any group of minorities. The media response alone would quickly diverge.

 

[santeesioux]

They're just really mad the Ducks blew the big game.

 

[McDougles]

What floors me is the vast difference in the reporting of this situation. From a standpoint on its being a bad situation, I'm sure the feds can talk it out, but imagine this same setup happening with any group of minorities. The media response alone would quickly diverge.

It hasn't even been reported on by CNN or MSNBC.

 

[Stumpokapow]

What floors me is the vast difference in the reporting of this situation. From a standpoint on its being a bad situation, I'm sure the feds can talk it out, but imagine this same setup happening with any group of minorities. The media response alone would quickly diverge.

To be fair there's very little difference between a sit-in and an occupation...

... with the exception of the presence of arms and the willingness to use force.

... which is kinda the operative thing here

 

[MikeDown]

this whole thing has been a fiasco from the start; always a possibility if any of these not jobs survive I will run into them at work

The police should wait them out, but if they start pointing guns I fully expect "the system works"

exactly, I doubt any of their mothers packed them a lunch

 

[RustyNails]

I'm still waiting for a Simpsons gif/pic.

 

[Calvero]

I keep being told I should but it's such a high castle.

lmao

 

[Sagroth]

These guys are terrorists, plain and simple.

 

[Mike M]

I'm still waiting for a Simpsons gif/pic.

 

[santeesioux]

First Roseburg, and now this. Rural Oregon is going through some shit lately.

 

[DrForester]

So terrorists occupy a Government building on US soil. Wonderful.


What did these ranchers who are going to prison do? I only vaguely remember the Bundy protest, and seem to recall it was about them not paying the Government for the use of federal land for grazing.

 

[Jerm411]

Can't wait for interviews and vids of a bunch of delusional fucks with ARs, BDUs, and "tactical gear" talking about their strategic maneuvers to gain control of the building...

 

[adj_noun]

I'm still waiting for a Simpsons gif/pic.

 

[Baraka in the White House]

Watch these guys get a nicer treatment than Occupy did.

 

[dabig2]

Watch these guys get a nicer treatment than Occupy did.

Well they're not really inconveniencing a bunch of entitled people so of course they're going to get a nicer treatment.

 

[massoluk]

If the Federal Government is a tyrant and want to kill you, they would just bomb the entire building, you morons, there wouldn't be standoff.

 

[ISOM]

This is a pretty good one but I'd say the pic where Homer forms the vigilante group but secretly wants a militia is better.

 

[ISOM]

But yeah, at certain points, you have to take the kids gloves off when dealing with nutcases. The first time the federal government deescalated was the right thing but I think now is the time to use force.

 

[MikeDown]

They burned federal land.

According to Bundy and his follower, federal land is unconstitutional, doesn't exist, and therefore they committed no crime by torching it.

i was under the impression that the fire got out of control burning federal land. Not intentionally setting fire to it. Though I could be wrong. Not really sure how I feel about the ranchers

 

[smokeandmirrors]

Fucking cunts

Take the kid gloves off. These assholes need to be taught a lesson

 

[Herbs]

They burned federal land.

According to Bundy and his follower, federal land is unconstitutional, doesn't exist, and therefore they committed no crime by torching it.

Actually there's a little more to it. They were convicted of arson and served their sentence, but the Federal judge realized under the law their prison time was too short and ordered them back to prison to serve more time. I'm guessing it's a combination of both circumstances that led to this.

 

[MikeDown]

Fucking cunts

Take the kid gloves off. These assholes need to be taught a lesson

so escilate the situation possibly leading to the loss of life? There are probably better ways to handel it at present

 

[Cartman86]

The media and the much of the countries reaction to something like this will be an obvious double standard, but the idea that we should escalate to violence is insanity.

 

[smokeandmirrors]

so escilate the situation possibly leading to the loss of life? There are probably better ways to handel it at present

No not militarily. There has to be something they can do because these assholes think they are above the law

 

[Opto]

Now color them brown and you'd have FBI SWAT surrounding the building

 

[davepoobond]

Let them get some camera time so folks can see how nutty they are.

more like so people can join their cause...

 

[LoserMakesGood]

Finally a small blurb on NY Times. Nothing on CNN.

 

[Ponn]

So they are trying to claim more government owned land for free again?

 

[Dice]

This is terrorism

Nah, but it is treason.

 

[Black Republican]

you know who Oregon needs right now?

Max!

 

[wenis]

Well this is a situation filled with wackadoos

 

[Chris R]

Looks like we need a new possible nuke area map.

 

[titiklabingapat]

Whelp, no better time than the present to bring up another round of far right terrorism. These people are all dangerous idiots

Yeah, this. Suspected communists, or the rumoured ones at least, we're treated far worse than this. And those people never had proof they were communists!

 

[phaonaut]

The video posted in the ThinkProgress article, somehow that went from getting miner and loggers back to work right into BLM being a bully that they needs to put in their place.

 

[KidGalactus]

When is the white leadership going to speak out against these animals?

 

[GaimeGuy]

Let them get some camera time so folks can see how nutty they are.

Giving people camera time just legitimizes them due to appeals to authority.

 

[A Link to the Past]

You think they won't do it again? Wait for the Hannity segment on this.

That ship sailed when the pro-slavery comment was made. Hannity was very scared haha.

 

[besada]

http://www.ktvz.com/news/militia-takes-over-federal-building/37242086

An overview, with local footage, of the protest, as well as a post-occupation interview at the end.

 

[FyreWulff]

So actual terrorism happens and we aren't rolling out APCs why?

 

[PataHikari]

So actual terrorism happens and we aren't rolling out APCs why?

They're white