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Extremist Militia Occupies Federal Building In Oregon
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PhoenixDark
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Agreed. And the media reaction or lack thereof. Bundy's group pulled a similar stunt last year. They didn't take over a federal building but they refused to leave territory that they claimed was "illegally seized" by the government. They were heavily armed and even set up snipers on a bridge. Needless the say the feds avoided a shootout.
The way I see it 3 things would be potentially different:
1. Media tone and coverage.
2. Response quickness by federal agencies
3. Trigger happiness by some officer(s) (not all obviously) if one of the bandits decides to be so crazy as to shoot one bullet.
That'll be their death warrant not diffusion.
Lonewolf_92
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Get some snipers out there to put a few rounds in those generators then let them "enjoy" a few nights of Oregon winter and they'll get out right quick.
Doesn't work like that.
RPGCrazied
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And why can't the police just show up and tell them to leave or be arrested? Are they really sure these people will shoot up cops?
BattleMonkey
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And didn't they also mostly all walk free? Even after their siege and aiming guns at law enforcement. Sorry but no one else would get away with that.
they've specifically said that they're looking for a fight. they would take any move like that as aggression justifying an armed response.
basically they know the history of the federal skittishness post-waco as well as the fed themselves and are playing it to the hilt.
Sir Abacus
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It's also the BLM. The BLM doesn't really have any force to show. 300 armed rangers and agents and that's it.
i'm pretty sure the FBI would handle this, maybe ATF if they think there's firearms violations taking place
GloriousBagel
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So has anything happened yet?
This. Where the hell do these people come from? I feel bad for the people in that area who have to put up with that crap.
RPGCrazied
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Nope, and the media is saying jack all. It is a holiday weekend though, so hoping Monday they start talking about it.
PhoenixDark
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That's what I said. As of right now they haven't done anything to warrant a violent response, but if they do they're fucked.
The idea that the feds wouldn't throw their playbook out the window if these were black people is disingenuous. The goal here is to avoid bloodshed. Or the idea that the cops would shoot first to justify a shootout.
Would things be different if Islamic terrorists were in this situation? Yea, that could be different given that citizen lives could be at risk. But I don't see that happening with white militias or black extremist groups, historically.
My issue with the response so far is that it isn't clear that the FBI have done much of anything, including stopping new people from arriving. These guys have put out multiple calls to arms, and there has been a response, so at a minimum there should be agents blockading the roads to and from the refuge center, to stop more people and more guns from arriving.
But that doesn't seem to be happening as far as I can tell.
But that doesn't seem to be happening as far as I can tell.
I suppose it speaks to my priorities, but I'm more pissed at them about this than any of the other stuff. As an Eagle scout, it makes my blood boil.
Lonewolf_92
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They're in a federal building with firearms, that's a firearm violation in and of itself.
Arrowgigantic
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FBI is letting people through so they can get their guys in there.
Yeah that sounds like a genuine issue to take up with the way the authorities are handling this.
I went to go see a movie so I've been away. Has there been much in the way of dialogue between the FBI and the media to explain what they are actually doing?
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aztek is ok
Theyre probably just going to wait them out a few days, until they're sick of the lack of amenities and comfort
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gutter_trash
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I have no sympathy for these Alex Jones extremists.
I have no sympathy for these Alex Jones extremists.
Until you blockade the location, there's nothing stopping them from bringing in what they need. Frankly it's going to be pretty difficult anyway, since the property abuts 187,000 acres of wilderness.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Huh? I know they have people at least as young as 16 fighting for their cause, i'm sure younger.
TheSpoiler
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Holy shit.
So these morons have children, guns, and the FBI is just letting more of them pour in.
Crazy how the media is doing its best to downplay this shit like it's a small tussle. They've stated they want a fight. They openly boast their weapons and tout their immunity.
And if anyone of color, as it has been said so many times, would do this, blood would be all over the walls, and we'd get a bunch of spins saying "he wasn't a good saint all his life".
Like, this shit is real and happening right now.
So these morons have children, guns, and the FBI is just letting more of them pour in.
Crazy how the media is doing its best to downplay this shit like it's a small tussle. They've stated they want a fight. They openly boast their weapons and tout their immunity.
And if anyone of color, as it has been said so many times, would do this, blood would be all over the walls, and we'd get a bunch of spins saying "he wasn't a good saint all his life".
Like, this shit is real and happening right now.
I'm talking little kids that were brought along. Not teenagers there under their own volition.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
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you do have a point. I'm revising my mental picture of the ideal outcome to building a giant Chernobyl-style containment vessel over the whole site, in the form of a massive concrete statue of Teddy Roosevelt taking a dump
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Now that's a wall I can support!
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Yeah, we've seen these kinds of dudes online before. They can't last long without wifi.
PhoenixDark
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There's a difference between underage combatants and using children as human shields, which is what militias often do. If a shootout were to occur they'd immediately blame the US government for killing innocent children. In short, they're cowards.
i cant believe this is happening.
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rather, i cant believe the federal government is letting this continue. there should be zero tolerance for shit like this. these yokel fucks are already taking their guns to wal-mart with no problems, now federal buildings? draw a fucking line already. send a message already.
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rather, i cant believe the federal government is letting this continue. there should be zero tolerance for shit like this. these yokel fucks are already taking their guns to wal-mart with no problems, now federal buildings? draw a fucking line already. send a message already.
Rudelord
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People calling them terrorists, but who are they terrorizing, exactly?
They're in a federal building in the middle of nowhere that had zero employees on site, so clearly civilian causalities are something they didn't want on their hands.
Obviously, this isn't exactly the correct way to handle this, but it's a bit of a stretch to call them terrorists.
They're in a federal building in the middle of nowhere that had zero employees on site, so clearly civilian causalities are something they didn't want on their hands.
Obviously, this isn't exactly the correct way to handle this, but it's a bit of a stretch to call them terrorists.
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Armed insurgents invading and taking over a location, spouting their ideals and propaganda and threatening violence if they do not get what they want and if there is an attempt to remove them.
Sounds kind of text book to me.
everyday math
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Oh Twitter lol you smartasses you.
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These guys are a bunch of dumbasses who are going to jail no matter how long they try to wait it out. Didn't think cable news(besides Fox) would be so blatant on their racist views tho.
#YallQaeda
#YeeHawd
#YeeHawdists
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These guys are a bunch of dumbasses who are going to jail no matter how long they try to wait it out. Didn't think cable news(besides Fox) would be so blatant on their racist views tho.
I am pretty damn sure some people in the surrounding area does not want either in town, especially the militia.
you're probably right. if you want to label them terrorists, fine. i can see the argument. just semantics to me. they are armed gunmen occupying a government building, they should be dealt with the same way that a terrorist group would be. that is, removed immediately.
DontBeThatGuy
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Terrorist squatters.
User 73706
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are we sure these are terrorists? i don't see any
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What about blasting a single bubblegum pop song at full blast at the buildings behind reinforced speakers and drones 24/7 until they lay down their guns and surrender?
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