facebook got a huge facelift...

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Juice said:
HAHHA

First thing I see when I log in is some distant friend of mine:

"Ryan **** has changed his status from `engaged` to `single`"

This is way too personal.
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Thanks to GAF censorship for a second I thought your friend's name was "Ryan F*ck" and I was super-confused.
 
Heh, saw something on CNN today about the "Facebook Fracas" and the petition to get rid of the news feed. What a joke.
 
Apparently, I'm one of the few who actually likes the feed. Until people start deactivating it, it's a nice way to find out if anything's changed in a matter of seconds. I don't have to waste my time wading through people's profiles all in an effort to distract myself from homework for a few more minutes. Sure, some people have legitimate complaints about there being just a little too much information being barraged at you, and I imagine that if you're the type that has hundreds of friends, that could be annoying. However, I enjoy the irony of people posting information on a site that theoretically anybody could see, and then complaining that their privacy is being invaded. If there are certain things that you don't want everyone knowing about, then perhaps posting it on a social networking site isn't a great idea in the first place.
 
Steve Youngblood said:
Apparently, I'm one of the few who actually likes the feed. Until people start deactivating it, it's a nice way to find out if anything's changed in a matter of seconds. I don't have to waste my time wading through people's profiles all in an effort to distract myself from homework for a few more minutes. Sure, some people have legitimate complaints about there being just a little too much information being barraged at you, and I imagine that if you're the type that has hundreds of friends, that could be annoying. However, I enjoy the irony of people posting information on a site that theoretically anybody could see, and then complaining that their privacy is being invaded. If there are certain things that you don't want everyone knowing about, then perhaps posting it on a social networking site isn't a great idea in the first place.
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IAWTP.
 
I'm impressed with Facebook.. everything is integrated so neatly and efficiently. It kicks Myspace's coding in the ass.

Facebook is a stalker's best friend only if you let it be. You're not forced to fill everything out.. and updating things like your relationship everytime you change it seems a bit silly to me.
 
Steve Youngblood said:
Apparently, I'm one of the few who actually likes the feed. Until people start deactivating it, it's a nice way to find out if anything's changed in a matter of seconds. I don't have to waste my time wading through people's profiles all in an effort to distract myself from homework for a few more minutes. Sure, some people have legitimate complaints about there being just a little too much information being barraged at you, and I imagine that if you're the type that has hundreds of friends, that could be annoying. However, I enjoy the irony of people posting information on a site that theoretically anybody could see, and then complaining that their privacy is being invaded. If there are certain things that you don't want everyone knowing about, then perhaps posting it on a social networking site isn't a great idea in the first place.
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No. There's a significant difference between having information that people need to put in some minor time and effort to see (let alone determine what changes have been made), and having Facebook automatically sort through your information and submit updates on those changes to all of your 'friends'. It's not at all the same thing.
 
Dan said:
No. There's a significant difference between having information that people need to put in some minor time and effort to see (let alone determine what changes have been made), and having Facebook automatically sort through your information and submit updates on those changes to all of your 'friends'. It's not at all the same thing.
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Well, it facilitates the process, sure, but that's just a function of labor. If someone really wanted to stalk Jenny Jones, they'd be doing this with or without the feed. For the other 99% of us, it's a boon
 
Dan said:
No. There's a significant difference between having information that people need to put in some minor time and effort to see (let alone determine what changes have been made), and having Facebook automatically sort through your information and submit updates on those changes to all of your 'friends'. It's not at all the same thing.
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But what is it that you don't want them to automatically be informed of? The only thing Facebook feeds is information that was freely available to them anyway, just now with less effort. I just don't understand the backlash. As an example, "Oh man, now all of my friends are going to see that I left a stupid message on so and so's wall." If you didn't want everyone to see it, you can always, and I know this is going to sound crazy, not post it on their wall. There are several ways to communicate a message to someone that not everyone can read (message them on Facebook, send an email to them through one of the listed emails on Facebook, or send them an IM if their screen name is provided).

I just feel like somewhere along the road everyone forgot what the purposes actually are of these sites. At their heart, although to varying degrees depending on the person, they are a way to be an attention whore on the internet. By putting up a profile, you're putting out a big "Hey, look at me!" sign. And now that Facebook is better facilitating that process, a lot of people are up in arms. I don't get it. People are upset that now someone can more easily 'stalk' them. You made the information available by posting it on a pseudo-public site.
 
GilloD said:
Well, it facilitates the process, sure, but that's just a function of labor. If someone really wanted to stalk Jenny Jones, they'd be doing this with or without the feed. For the other 99% of us, it's a boon
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Sorry, by making stalking easier, you lower the threshold of labor necessary and inevitably increase the number of people who partake in it.

SteveYoungblook said:
By putting up a profile, you're putting out a big "Hey, look at me!" sign.
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That's a gross generalization and you know it. There are perfectly legitimate and convenient reasons for using Facebook as a method of providing contact and life information to friends. The service is crossing a line when its actively showing people at what exact times I'm doing things on it. Sure, people could click over to Friends and see when their profiles were updated, but it didn't notify them of exact changes. Furthermore, the News Feed adds times to even more changes, like friend additions. It's too much and there needs to be an option to disable your participation.
 
goodcow said:
Why the hell can't everyone just use facebook instead of MySpace?
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Because not everyone goes to college? I'm in-between colleges right now so I had to steal one of my cousin's multiple school emails to get onto Facebook. Plus there are countless people who get out of high shool and *shock* don't immediately go to college. They either take time off or go directly into their field. (Rare, but it happens) So, for that fact that MySpace doesn't give a shit where you are in your life, MySpace wins.

For dependability and organization, though, Facebook wipes its ass with MySpace. If Facebook was open registration like MySpace is, it'd be perfect.

As for the new changes, I don't like it. I'm not a lurk or a stalker so I don't care what my friends are doing ever minute of the day to their profile. I use Facebook and Myspace to write emails to friends far from me and see how they're doing. I don't care is Sally joined a new group or if Johnny wrote Quade a message.
I want to be able to turn it off. I liked it better when I logged in and saw my picture with the occasional "Someone wants to be your friend" or "You have a new message" alert. If I want to know what someone's been up to I'll go to their profile and look around myself. I don't need all this extra clutter.
 
Dan said:
Sorry, by making stalking easier, you lower the threshold of labor necessary and inevitably increase the number of people who partake in it.
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What? I don't think that's true. "Oh, it's so much easier to keep tabs on Sally. I guess I'll stalk and rape her now. Before it was just SO MUCH WORK". The whole appeal of social networking is the vouyeuristic element, being able to get to know someone before you ever meet them. All this aggregation does is pull back the curtain on the ugly truth. I people are going to take up "stalking" en-masse now that it's suddenly easier.
 
I have a Myspace but deleted my Facebook. I think both of them are pretty lame to an extent. Anyone saying OMG FACEBOOK IS SOOO MUCH BETTER THEAN MYSPACES is a freaking idiot. They are the same exact thing.
 
GilloD said:
What? I don't think that's true. "Oh, it's so much easier to keep tabs on Sally. I guess I'll stalk and rape her now. Before it was just SO MUCH WORK". The whole appeal of social networking is the vouyeuristic element, being able to get to know someone before you ever meet them. All this aggregation does is pull back the curtain on the ugly truth. I people are going to take up "stalking" en-masse now that it's suddenly easier.
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Exaggerating the situation to the extreme doesn't make my assertion false. If you don't think more people will start keeping closer tabs on certain friends because Facebook now does most of the work, you're a damned fool.
 
Futureman said:
I have a Myspace but deleted my Facebook. I think both of them are pretty lame to an extent. Anyone saying OMG FACEBOOK IS SOOO MUCH BETTER THEAN MYSPACES is a freaking idiot. They are the same exact thing.
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I think they are talking about coding, layout, and organization wise. Myspace is programmed like Geocities v2.0, Facebook seems almost Google-esk.
 
My main problem with the new Facebook is not that my privacy is being eliminated (I don't do anything interesting enough to warrant concern over someone else knowing), but rather that I don't want to know this shit. Honestly, someone's status changed to "In a Relationship" one afternoon, and just that morning I saw a guy leaving their room. I didn't need to have 2 and 2 put together like that for me, and would rather not be kind of forced to learn these things about people.
 
Apparently, some peoples' homepages have more information than others.

On my homepage, the only updates I get are people who posted on my wall and people who commented on my photots.

My brother, on the otherhand, gets "so-and-so updated their profile, so-and-so is going to this party, etc." His homepage looked like a ****ing MESS. :lol

I wonder why his gets so much activity.
 
MIMIC said:
Apparently, some peoples' homepages have more information than others.

On my homepage, the only updates I get are people who posted on my wall and people who commented on my photots.

My brother, on the otherhand, gets "so-and-so updated their profile, so-and-so is going to this party, etc." His homepage looked like a ****ing MESS. :lol

I wonder why his gets so much activity.
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Because clearly, your facebook friends are boring.
 
goodcow said:
Because clearly, your facebook friends are boring.
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:lol I have at least 50 friends who update every day, but their information doesn't show-up on my homepage...while my brother's friends info is prominently displayed on his.

I can see it on THEIR mini-news feeds but it doesn't show up on my homepage.
 
MIMIC said:
I can see it on THEIR mini-news feeds but it doesn't show up on my homepage.
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This is happening to me too, which makes me wonder if either the system is broken or somehow all of my friends have gotten off of the news feed.
 
Um...theres a difference between the updates on you "profile" page and your "home" page (try clicking home and then my profile to see what i mean)
 
MIMIC said:
:lol I have at least 50 friends who update every day, but their information doesn't show-up on my homepage...while my brother's friends info is prominently displayed on his.

I can see it on THEIR mini-news feeds but it doesn't show up on my homepage.
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happens to me as well
 
Shawn128 said:
Um...theres a difference between the updates on you "profile" page and your "home" page (try clicking home and then my profile to see what i mean)
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I'm aware of the distinction. The News Feed on the Home page hasn't updated for me since I first saw it two or three days ago, except for removing old notices.
 
Jesus Christ. I just checked and now it not only tells me if a friend has uploaded new pictures, but it displays the new pictures too.

**** this. This is disgusting clutter and I want to turn it off.
 
GilloD said:
FACEBOOK MEANS YOU WENT TO COLLEGE.

Which is more than I can say for the doddering fleet of idiots that make up MySpace.
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So? MySpace's bad rep is unwarranted. You act like you are forced to view the profiles of people who put like 50 videos and an obnoxious template on their page when you're not.

I like MySpace better because of the music and the fact that anyone can register on it. I've found lots of friends who are overseas and lots of artists that I like on MySpace that I wouldn't have found on Facebook. Facebook has it's merits ofcourse but I generally find it boring. I check my Facebook profile like once or twice a week and it's not like it was ever the center of my social network anyway. I dunno, maybe if I rode the Facebook wave from the beginning I'd feel different but I didn't so I don't (my school wasn't even on Facebook until this year).

These updates seem a bit much but I'm not too worried because only my friends can see my updates and I really don't care if they know I changed this or what or stopped being friends with whoever. I've got nothing to hide so it's not a big deal to me. It seems stalker-ish, sure, but I don't think you have anything to worry about if they're your friends and you know them IRL.
 
man I'm about to delete some of these unwanted friends. I have about 402 facebook freinds (I know them all I don't accept random people), and this shit is just annoying. Also, this truly is getting a bit stalkerish, I know it was before but now...geeze.
 
Dan said:
That's a gross generalization and you know it. There are perfectly legitimate and convenient reasons for using Facebook as a method of providing contact and life information to friends. The service is crossing a line when its actively showing people at what exact times I'm doing things on it. Sure, people could click over to Friends and see when their profiles were updated, but it didn't notify them of exact changes. Furthermore, the News Feed adds times to even more changes, like friend additions. It's too much and there needs to be an option to disable your participation.
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Well, for starters, I don't think it's a gross generalization. Yes, I know, a lot of times people reluctantly create these pages with the best of intentions, but the mere fact that you're creating a page that's all about you is intrinsically narcissistic. Basically, in your mind, you think that at some point, someone will be interested enough in you to want some basic info, and thus you're making that information available on the internet. The fact that people get upset when people know too much about them because they read their MySpace or Facebook profile has always just baffled me. Nobody forced you to put whatever secretive information up there, and the excuse that "you didn't think so and so would see it" has always seemed a bit lame to me.

As for there being too much, time-stamped information, again, I don't see the reason to complain. If someone is interested enough to want to know that I just added House as one of my favorite TV shows ten minutes ago, there it is. If they don't (and I assume that most would not care), they now know that they don't need to waste time looking at my profile to see what I changed, and it only took one second to scroll past this useless information. I just see this as a matter of convenience. Yes, there may be a lot of useless information assaulting you at the home screen, but as the previous poster noted, maybe that just means that it's time to clean up your friends list. Nobody actually has hundreds of active friends in their life.
 
Well, it's not gone, but they've added a lot of Privacy options so it's a start.

An Open Letter from Mark Zuckerberg:

We really messed this one up. When we launched News Feed and Mini-Feed we were trying to provide you with a stream of information about your social world. Instead, we did a bad job of explaining what the new features were and an even worse job of giving you control of them. I'd like to try to correct those errors now.

When I made Facebook two years ago my goal was to help people understand what was going on in their world a little better. I wanted to create an environment where people could share whatever information they wanted, but also have control over whom they shared that information with. I think a lot of the success we've seen is because of these basic principles.

We made the site so that all of our members are a part of smaller networks like schools, companies or regions, so you can only see the profiles of people who are in your networks and your friends. We did this to make sure you could share information with the people you care about. This is the same reason we have built extensive privacy settings – to give you even more control over who you share your information with.

Somehow we missed this point with Feed and we didn't build in the proper privacy controls right away. This was a big mistake on our part, and I'm sorry for it. But apologizing isn't enough. I wanted to make sure we did something about it, and quickly. So we have been coding nonstop for two days to get you better privacy controls. This new privacy page will allow you to choose which types of stories go into your Mini-Feed and your friends' News Feeds, and it also lists the type of actions Facebook will never let any other person know about. If you have more comments, please send them over.

This may sound silly, but I want to thank all of you who have written in and created groups and protested. Even though I wish I hadn't made so many of you angry, I am glad we got to hear you. And I am also glad that News Feed highlighted all these groups so people could find them and share their opinions with each other as well.

About a week ago I created a group called Free Flow of Information on the Internet, because that's what I believe in – helping people share information with the people they want to share it with. I'd encourage you to check it out to learn more about what guides those of us who make Facebook. Tomorrow at 4pm est, I will be in that group with a bunch of people from Facebook, and we would love to discuss all of this with you. It would be great to see you there.

Thanks for taking the time to read this,

Mark
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achilles said:
I'm impressed with Facebook.. everything is integrated so neatly and efficiently. It kicks Myspace's coding in the ass.

Facebook is a stalker's best friend only if you let it be. You're not forced to fill everything out.. and updating things like your relationship everytime you change it seems a bit silly to me.
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**** that, Im done with is as well. Rupert Murdoch and the whole fox family can suck my right nut.

SO UNECESSARY
 
Glad that Mark responded so quickly. Shows that he really understands and wants people to be satisfied with his creation.
 
pollo said:
**** that, Im done with is as well. Rupert Murdoch and the whole fox family can suck my right nut.

SO UNECESSARY
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Heh, Fox has nothing to do with Facebook. Zuckerberg wanted $2 billion for it last year (even before MySpace fetched $500 million. He obviously hasnt found anyone who is willing to pay that price.
 
I actually like the news feed, people say nothing is private anymore but you can hide things people see about you on your news feed. But I've noticed I will join a group or post something on the wall of a group and someone else will too.
 
all this fracas made me hop on my dusty facebook page, then i realized why i never use it: i can never find anyone on this, all my friends don't go to college. i guess i'm pretty anti-social when i get to class...
 
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Teh Hamburglar said:
Who is who in the group? Someone compile a cross reference table thing.
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Patrick Klepek - exXy
Dan Dormer - Agent Dormer
Brandon Mitchell - ?
Jonathan Peck - Meier
Chakri Gavva - woodchuck
John Schueler - ?
Nick Tillie - Teh Hamburglar
Dan Ramalia - whytemyke
 
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