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[TaterTots]

Wait....what is a coup?

EDIT: Googled it. Would this be a good or bad thing in Turkey?

 

[PeskyToaster]

Coups are bad if nobody wins the initial time and it turns into a civil war.

 

[Veritigo_X]

Social media sites are down.

Turkey @TurkeyBlocks
Confirmed: Twitter, Facebook & YouTube blocked in #Turkey at 10:50PM after apparent military uprising in #Turkey

https://twitter.com/TurkeyBlocks/status/754043966547431424

 

[Grover Cleveland]

Someone really needs to come out with a poll: "What will be the next international incident/tragedy/story"

Are they coming every day? Feels like it.

Got to go read up on the sides of Turkey, cause as it stands, I don't know if I think this is good or not.

Well, the current government under Erdogen is generally terrible but....


there's pretty much no resolution to a coup d'etat that is favorable for the citizens.

Worst case scenario: Complete government collapse, Syria

 

[Lunzio]

I'm simply completely oblivious to what this means. What kinds of repercussions does a modern coup entail?

Stay safe, TurkeyGAF!!

 

[Syncytia]

What's the potential consequences of martial law on refugees from Syria?

 

[SymbiantXenos]

Nato article 5 anyone?

After all if it's a coup then it could be enforced I guess.

 

[Team Alucard]

Doesn't Erdogan have a huge personality cult?

I don't see this ending well. Its like someone trying to pull a coup on Putin.

 

[-Plasma Reus-]

I believe America has some nukes/nuke sites in Turkey, right? Does Turkey itself have Nuclear weapons? We probably don't have to worry about that, right???

That's probably out of the control of turkish military. All US staff.

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

Holy shit, were we expecting this?

would be a pretty bad coup if people outside of the inner circle was expecting it

 

[iRAWRasaurus]

Wait....what is a coup?

Hostile takeover of the government from the military or within the government.

 

[victreeb3l]

Turkey cant catch a break

 

[nynt9]

Is he conducting a coup from fucking Pennsylvania!?

You have a lot to learn, my friend. His cult has reach in all arms of Turkish society and government. Here's another one: http://www.meforum.org/2045/fethullah-gulens-grand-ambition

 

[AndyD]

So if the coup line is confirmed, presumably the military forces blockading various Turkish cities are those taking part in the coup rather than government loyalists trying to hold out those attempting to take over?

That's the way it usually works. Show of force by the newcomers to dissuade defense.

 

[Vagabundo]

Fucking hell. Crazy news week.

 

[LiK]

would be a pretty bad coup if people outside of the inner circle was expecting it

I didn't think the relationship between the govt and military was this bad.

 

[Animator]

Can anyone who speaks the language translate this?

It is basically saying this:

civilian: "Is this a drill"

Soldier: "no this is not a drill, everyone should go home" , "the armed forces is taking over the goverment"

 

[yanipheonu]

Wait....what is a coup?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coup_d'état

I'd recommend some more liberal usage of Google. It really helps these days.

 

[NYCmetsfan]

Neogaf is the best news source.
Nothing on my twitter feed.
Nothing on the BBC.
Yet, here is GAF.

Follow people in the region. Its all over my twitter.

Neogaf just has a lot of different people with wide and distinct webs so things move fast

 

[Apt101]

That would scare the bejesus out of me.

When I was a kid fighter jets from a local naval base would fly training maneuvers crazily low like this near neighborhoods. They would fly so low near a large field that I could see the pilot inside. So loud it would rattle your teeth. Someone in the government eventually forced them to conduct the training somewhere else, I think over the ocean and near The Great Dismal Swamp. But I still remember them.

If this is a coup I wonder who is driving it? I don't know much about Turkish politics, just that Erdogan was a bit of a tyrant.

 

[reckless]

I'm simply completely oblivious to what this means. What kinds of repercussions does a modern coup entail?

Stay safe, TurkeyGAF!!

Matters who is behind the coup.

 

[sechsterangriff]

As much as I dislike Erdogan, I really don't think a coup would be the right way to go.

Speaking as a citizen from a country that became a democracy through a military coup, sometimes it's the only way.

 

[PeskyToaster]

Holy shit, were we expecting this?

If GAF Was expecting it then odds are it would have never got to the point of happening.

 

[Funky Papa]

As with any coup, the only way this is going to end "well" is with either side taking full control of the situation ASAP.

Whatever happens, let's hope it goes down with the quickness.

 

[Regginator]

Turkey is a pretty stable country and economy all things considered, attempting a coup would be disastrous not only for the country but also its citizens. I hope it doesn't come to that.

 

[Azoor]

Holy hell, like the area needs more unstability.

 

[LiK]

AP reporting it now.

 

[sangreal]

cnn finally broke into their france coverage for this

 

[FStop7]

Erdogan is terrible but a destabilized Turkey does not help anyone. Especially when there is no guarantee that his replacement will be any better. And if the coup fails then Erdogan will be even more dangerous. Turkey is a NATO member and has nuclear weapons.

 

[Jackpot]

So if the coup line is confirmed, presumably the military forces blockading various Turkish cities are those taking part in the coup rather than government loyalists trying to hold out those attempting to take over?

I would guess they're pro-Erdogan and are locking down the smaller coup element. [/don'tknowhygutfeeling]

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

You have a lot to learn, my friend. His cult has reach in all arms of Turkish society and government. Here's another one: http://www.meforum.org/2045/fethullah-gulens-grand-ambition

His wiki says he follows moderate and modern interpretations of islam

so uh, is he a good guy or bad guy in the idea that he's going to go all theocrat

 

[Funky Papa]

Telegraph reporting shots in the streets.

 

[JohnTinker]

CNN reporting now with Jake Tapper at the helm.

"Military action being taken without chain of command" is a mild way of saying your army wants to put it's leaders in front if a firing squad.

 

[TheSecondSpitter]

Yes, which is why this is surprising. I wrote my undergrad thesis on why Turkey was unlikely to see the return of the military coup; thank god that was marked two years ago!

The fallacy in that argument is that officers in the Turkish armed forces are like the Mafia.

 

[ConfusingJazz]

Nato article 5 anyone?

After all if it's a coup then it could be enforced I guess.

Turkey has been a member of NATO since 1952. They have had four coups since then. NATO status does not apply here.

 

[Piecake]

I believe America has some nukes/nuke sites in Turkey, right? Does Turkey itself have Nuclear weapons? We probably don't have to worry about that, right???

I really doubt it. This is a fight over control by two institutions, not rogue actors. These institutions are not going to attack US military compounds because that would just be really really stupid.

 

[Shiggy]

A coups d'etat is not necessarily bad. While I'm not familiar with today's military leaders in Turkey, it may potentially protect Turkish core values which were increasingly destroyed by Erdogan. The Turkish military achieved that with prior coups at least.

 

[chadskin]

Tank outside Istanbul airport, via: https://twitter.com/alexebarker/status/754046664101470209

 

[LiK]

would be a pretty bad coup if people outside of the inner circle was expecting it

If GAF Was expecting it then odds are it would have never got to the point of happening.

Should've said "anybody" instead lol

 

[Phantast2k]

tanks, apcs

 

[TCRS]

big news sites finally picking it up

http://www.spiegel.de/
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36809083

 

[Mesousa]

Erdogan is terrible but a destabilized Turkey does not help anyone. Especially when there is no guarantee that his replacement will be any better. And if the coup fails then Erdogan will be even more dangerous. Turkey is a NATO member and has nuclear weapons.

Do they actually have nuclear weapons or do they have access via NATO?

 

[Tubobutts]

Wow, just yesterday my dad was telling me he wanted to go to Turkey to see the village his grandparents were from.

 

[kirblar]

Speaking as a citizen from a country that became a democracy through a military coup, sometimes it's the only way.

Historically this has been the case in Turkey because of religious fundamentalism trying to override secularism

 

[Condom]

Stay safe istanbul-gaf!

 

[KDR_11k]

Considering how often the govt there yells about coups everywhere I was kinda expecting this to be just another cry about a wolf.

 

[cyba89]

I hope things don't get too ugly but I'm not overly optimistic. Crazy times.

Stay safe TurkeyGAF.

 

[CoolOff]

If the government falls, and if he can hang on for Obama, I think that will mean Bashar al-Assad has out-lasted everyone who originally wanted him to go.

Geezer.

 

[NYCmetsfan]

Nato article 5 anyone?

After all if it's a coup then it could be enforced I guess.

Article 5 is an external attack, only 9/11 triggered it. We didn't do anything in past coups and if its the army then NATO probably cares more about not rocking that boat.

In fact we (USA) supported the 1980 coup

 

[fanboi]

I mean... a "small" group within the military shouldn't have control over air forces?