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[TheLostBigBoss]

do you guys think some foreign powers are likely also involved

as in support

no

 

[FreedomFighter]

12:18 PM - 15 Jul 2016 agitpapa @agitpapa
Something fishy's going on military blocking Bosphorus bridge, jets buzzing Ankara. Tayyip took Turkey back decades is it already 1980?

12:20 PM - 15 Jul 2016 ilhan tanir @WashingtonPoint
Bosporus Bridge currently blocked by Turkish Military. Everybody is asking: what is going on? Turkey. Istanbul. pic.twitter.com/7pqwTY9zQw

12:21 PM - 15 Jul 2016agitpapa ‏@agitpapa
Curfew declared in Ankara.

12:30pm · 15 Jul 2016 Mahir Zeynalov @MahirZeynalov
Reports of significant military presence in urban areas in Turkey. Two Istanbul bridges on lockdown by military.

12:32 PM - 15 Jul 2016 Mahir Zeynalov @MahirZeynalov
Turkish fighter jets flying low over Ankara pic.twitter.com/wqcPmLBOyW

12:54 PM - 15 Jul 2016 Piotr Zalewski @p_zalewski
Roads to the General Staff headquarters in Ankara have been blocked: TR media t24.com.tr/haber/ankarada…

12:56 PM - 15 Jul 2016(((Michael Koplow))) @mkoplow
The lack of Turkish govt officials visible anywhere at the moment is…odd.

1:08 PM - 15 Jul 2016Elijah J. Magnier @EjmAlrai
Helicopters hitting the Intelligence service building and army surrounding the army HQ. Getting hotter. #Turkey

#BreakingNews: F-16 over #Ankara and Helicopters opening fire in #Ankara against Army building. #Turkey

It is obvious that the #Turkish Air Force is splitting and it is a real coup d'etat.

 

[Markoman]

Ok, tinfoil hat time. Something about Erdogan demading visa free travel for Turkish citizens in the refugee deal always smelled fishy. Maybe he was expecting something like this....

 

[Mr.Sumal]

do you guys think some foreign powers are likely also involved

as in support

Who would gain from turkey being destabilized?

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

Just the logistics of getting jets in the sky and tanks in the street shows you it's not some small group.

 

[NYCmetsfan]

I wouldn't read this in western Secular vs Religious terms.

Its likely a fight over power. The army is its own institution and the president has made moves to end that.

 

[Joni]

again this has happened multiple times during their NATO membership.

The US and other western countries tends to support he coups because they're friendlier with the military

Not the first time and also not the only country...

Doesn't make it less scarier.

 

[LUFTRAUSER]

@MahirZeynalov
Istanbul Ataturk International Airport is taken over by the military, flights halted.

@MahirZeynalov
Turkish prime minister says force will be countered with force.

Uh oh.

 

[Kibbles]

How does a coup happen? Some General goes rogue and everyone in the military follows? Just surprised everyone would disobey the commander in chief like that

 

[Bedlam]

Well shit, there goes one of the few stable countries in the Middle East.

Hopefully this coup is pro-West. In any case, this is probably the definitive end of the EU membership negotiations.

 

[sofa]

Italian SkyTG24 has a direct with a local reporter that said that the Chief of the military (?) said that the coup is nationwide and of the whole military.

 

[Kiru]

any english livestream ?

 

[Meadows]

What the fuck

 

[PdotMichael]

Well shit, there goes one of the few stable countries in the Middle East.

Hopefully this coup is pro-West. In any case, this is probably the definitive end of the EU membership negotiations.

Please

 

[Arnie7]

In cases such as these it is always distrubing how the parts of Internet can be shut down so easily.

 

[Funky Papa]

do you guys think some foreign powers are likely also involved

as in support

I certainly can't imagine NATO members going after Turkey with all the shit going on in the region. The situation is already bad as it is.

 

[FStop7]

do you guys think some foreign powers are likely also involved

as in support

I'm sure the thought has crossed everyone's minds but it's not right to openly speculate on the Internet, where speculation is rapidly morphed into "fact."

 

[Vade]

This will not end well Erdogan already has cleared most of the secular remnants of the old guard on. Unless things move fast this will be a sad end for all involved.

 

[trembli0s]

Wild, I imagine the old guard is being broken out of prison as we speak. Looks like a coup by old loyalists against the new leadership.

 

[Jack Scofield]

If this is a military coup, how much do they tell the grunts being deployed? Do all the ground soldiers know about this ahead of time and keep it a secret?

Just seems like an incredibly hard thing to pull off without getting caught.

 

[TheRealTalker]

no

Who would gain from turkey being destabilized?

I mean we've seen it before in Egypt

or by opposite nations in post Soviet countries


maybe they assumed that likely the chances of full takeover was high

 

[BossDarkseid]

12:18 PM - 15 Jul 2016 agitpapa @agitpapa
Something fishy's going on military blocking Bosphorus bridge, jets buzzing Ankara. Tayyip took Turkey back decades is it already 1980?

12:20 PM - 15 Jul 2016 ilhan tanir @WashingtonPoint
Bosporus Bridge currently blocked by Turkish Military. Everybody is asking: what is going on? Turkey. Istanbul. pic.twitter.com/7pqwTY9zQw

12:21 PM - 15 Jul 2016agitpapa ‏@agitpapa
Curfew declared in Ankara.

12:30pm · 15 Jul 2016 Mahir Zeynalov @MahirZeynalov
Reports of significant military presence in urban areas in Turkey. Two Istanbul bridges on lockdown by military.

12:32 PM - 15 Jul 2016 Mahir Zeynalov @MahirZeynalov
Turkish fighter jets flying low over Ankara pic.twitter.com/wqcPmLBOyW

12:54 PM - 15 Jul 2016 Piotr Zalewski @p_zalewski
Roads to the General Staff headquarters in Ankara have been blocked: TR media t24.com.tr/haber/ankarada…

12:56 PM - 15 Jul 2016(((Michael Koplow))) @mkoplow
The lack of Turkish govt officials visible anywhere at the moment is…odd.

1:08 PM - 15 Jul 2016Elijah J. Magnier @EjmAlrai
Helicopters hitting the Intelligence service building and army surrounding the army HQ. Getting hotter. #Turkey

#BreakingNews: F-16 over #Ankara and Helicopters opening fire in #Ankara against Army building. #Turkey

It is obvious that the #Turkish Air Force is splitting and it is a real coup d'etat.

Wait so TAF are the coup or they're Ergodan loyal? I'm confused.

 

[FireCloud]

Facebook, Twitter, YouTube are down in Turkey apparently

A friend of mine in Istanbul was live streaming the news over Facebook....I've been able to talk to her via Facebook Messenger, so far.

 

[Xando]

Not getting anything on TRT(state tv) anymore

looks like it got shutdown

 

[nynt9]

I'm reading up on him and he seems to be progressive and a better alternative than Erdogan but the way you're talking about a "cult" seems worrying. Is he actually linked to that cult or are they misguided followers?

Spoiler

Please forgive my ignorance.

I hope this doesn't turn into a prolongued bloodbath, for the sake of the citizens of Turkey of course but also more selfishly for the negative implications for Europe...

He was originally worse than Erdogan, but as Erdogan got worse it's unclear who's better now. The problem is not how religious he is but his ulterior motives. Though his people are REALLY culty. They have cult houses for brainwashing teenagers. I've lost friends to this. Unfortunately this part is exclusive to Turkey so I can't find good English sources for this.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapo...st-politically-connected-cleric/#686c6b981f77

A former Gulen movement follower who spoke to me on the condition of anonymity likened the group to a cross between Islam and Scientology. He said he was part of the group since Middle School but left it in college because he was too busy to adhere to the group’s objectives of volunteerism and fund-raiser events.

“They’re goal is to indoctrinate the best and the brightest who will eventually get careers in law, or in the military, or in politics. They’re too new in the United States to have gotten that far,” he told me, adding that he feels Gulen is non-threatening.

 

[-Plasma Reus-]

any english livestream ?

http://www.aljazeera.com/watch_now/

 

[iceatcs]

Wow TV state shut down

 

[Phantast2k]

any english livestream ?

Not that I know of, but here's a tank rolling through Istanbul:
https://twitter.com/Ayyinemikeder/status/754046084805173248

 

[FreedomFighter]

Ok, tinfoil hat time. Something about Erdogan demading visa free travel for Turkish citizens in the refugee deal always smelled fishy. Maybe he was expecting something like this....

Nothing tinfoil about it, it's reasonable speculation...

Also, consider the timing of him making up with Israel and Russia.

He knew he had no friends left...

 

[NYCmetsfan]

I certainly can't imagine NATO members going after Turkey with all the shit going on in the region. The situation is already bad as it is.

They're could be tacit support if the whole military is behind it and the reasons.

Hasn't erdogon been somewhat lax over border control?

 

[Blueliner]

Istanbul Earth Cam still up.

http://www.earthcam.com/world/turkey/istanbul/?cam=istanbul

 

[Meadows]

Is the army generally secular?

 

[blackjaw]

The implications of this if true are so wide spread and really mind boggling...trying to wrap my head around it all

 

[norinrad]

And 2016 isn't over yet. It's like the last 12 years or so the world has gotten more dangerous and nothing is certain these days. I hope everyone and their family and friends stay safe.

 

[Mesousa]

They have nukes as part of NATO's nuclear sharing policy. As far as I know, they have no direkt control over arming warheads.

Turkey has nuclear weapons provided by NATO. But they are de-facto under Turkish control.

http://thebulletin.org/status-us-nuclear-weapons-turkey

Ah I see.

Scary a nation so unstable could have a slice of the nuclear pie.

 

[Real Hero]

this can't end well

 

[kirblar]

They're could be tacit support if the whole military is behind it and the reasons.

Hasn't erdogon been somewhat lax over border control?

He recently announced plans to resettle mass amounts of Syrians. There's a really obvious pop culture analogy here.

 

[LiK]

@MahirZeynalov
Turkish prime minister says force will be countered with force.

Uh oh.

Oh man, stay safe Turkey-GAF

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

Ah I see.

Scary a nation so unstable could have a slice of the nuclear pie.

Uhh, Pakistan?

 

[idonteven]

holy shit

is it even possible in this day and age for a army to take over a country ?

how the hell can police win against a army

 

[Iksenpets]

Ok, tinfoil hat time. Something about Erdogan demading visa free travel for Turkish citizens in the refugee deal always smelled fishy. Maybe he was expecting something like this....

Visa free travel in Europe has been a Turkish goal for decades. Nothing fishy about that. And frankly, if Erdogan needed to escape into exile, he has the resources to go wherever he wants.

 

[Arnie7]

How does a coup happen? Some General goes rogue and everyone in the military follows? Just surprised everyone would disobey the commander in chief like that

Kinda, but usually by a patriot type general who inspires a lot of loyalty.

 

[Crosseyes]

Italian SkyTG24 has a direct with a local reporter that said that the Chief of the military (?) said that the coup is nationwide and of the whole military.

Hopefully that's true. Now that the coup is already underway both sides will try to come into power. Having the much better party in the armed forces come out quickly on top is very preferable than an emboldened Erdogan or long term conflict.

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

And 2016 isn't over yet. It's like the last 12 years or so the world has gotten more dangerous and nothing is certain these days. I hope everyone and their family and friends stay safe.

or it's like in the last 12 years information has become far easier to gain access of all around the world

holy shit

is it even possible in this day and age for a army to take over a country ?

how the hell can police win against a army

I guess you missed the entire Egypt thing a few years ago

Spoiler

Military took over twice in the last four years

 

[NYCmetsfan]

And 2016 isn't over yet. It's like the last 12 years or so the world has gotten more dangerous and nothing is certain these days. I hope everyone and their family and friends stay safe.

The world is far less dangerous than it has been. Except for terrorism deaths from conflicts are down. Civil wars are ending, incomes rising, etc.

 

[SmackAttack]

"Turkish PM Yıldırım says there has been "an attempt" and his government won't allow it."

I'm confused. What does this mean? Why is this happening?

 

[Fantastapotamus]

Holy shit. I knew something was wrong when Turkey was trending on Twitter. What is happening. Stay safe Turkey gaf!

 

[Mr.Sumal]

I mean we've seen it before in Egypt

or by opposite nations in post Soviet countries


maybe they assumed that likely the chances of full takeover was high

Egypt is a different case compared to turkey

they only had a year of democracy over there

 

[Dash_Riprock]

holy shit

is it even possible in this day and age for a army to take over a country ?

Egypt.

 

[S¡mon]

Supposed to be heading to Turkey in 17 hours. Damn.

Is the army generally secular?

If I remember correctly, yes.