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Fallout 4 |OT2| Farming Simulator 2287
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The poop slinging over the "depthness" of this game's RPG stuff is kinda hilarious. I mean, I love me a cRPG (they are without fail my favorite games), but I just feel like it should be expected from Bethesda's RPGs at this point.
The narratives in the main quest and side quests are as flexible as they've always been since Oblivion (which is to say kinda sorta not really but a tiny bit?). Obsidian did a great job with the variance in New Vegas but people are getting all miffed when the difference between that and 4 isn't actually all that huge.
The narratives in the main quest and side quests are as flexible as they've always been since Oblivion (which is to say kinda sorta not really but a tiny bit?). Obsidian did a great job with the variance in New Vegas but people are getting all miffed when the difference between that and 4 isn't actually all that huge.
Oh my...
I can imagine the raiders walking down the road, looking for a caravan or settlement, and coming across that and just going 'Nope.' Ultimate defense!
Imp the Dimp
Member
F3 had sufficient depth for me to enjoy it. NV blew it out of the water, all right, but back in 2008, F3 was good-ish in that department and I remember it fondly. I love power gaming and it took me quite some time to skill my character perfectly and get the maximum of skill points out of her.
I don't know like this game isn't particularly good but overall Wasteland 2 is probably a bit worse.
It depends on what you want really i'd say writing wise Wasteland probably beats out Fallout 4 but Wasteland is an ugly, ugly game and the combat is questionable.
But on the other hand the combat gameplay of Fallout 4 is also mediocre. A few more interesting characters in Fallout 4 but neither game make great use of their settings imo. If you want to get full into role-playing Wasteland 2 is way better for that.
Both are honestly fairly uninteresting games so maybe just give Fallout 1 or 2 a run through?
Sniffynose
Member
Atomic Edge
Banned
Do you need to collect spare water, or does it just go into the workshop?
So after about 40 hours, the flaws of the dialogue system are becoming super apparent. Perhaps the biggest issue is how the 'question/more info' option sometimes automatically results in the 'affirmative/accept quest' option, and other times you can ask a question and have to explicitly confirm afterwards.
Though so far I'd say the game is significantly better than Skyrim. Compared to Fallout 3...I'm not sure yet.
Though so far I'd say the game is significantly better than Skyrim. Compared to Fallout 3...I'm not sure yet.
It goes into the workshop.
Cob32
Member
I would head in the general direction of diamond city it's your first time. The east and south areas of the map are harder I've found.
XenogearsX
Banned
Just explored my first vault yesterday in fo4--vault 75. Love reading the terminals to find out the true nature of the vaults. I like how at the end it gives you an xp completion bonus too
My cows are really robots. Just had a 3rd Brahman be a Synth.
I saw a heatmap either in one of the OTs or on Reddit that had the easiest area being a fat line from Sanctuary to Diamond City, then the difficulty ramping up if you go NE or SW from that line (or SE of Diamond City). That seems to mirror my experiences so far
I feel like people have some crazy rose-tinted glasses for 3 and NV. While New Vegas very clearly had an immense level of variance that makes it stand out, outside of that (and I understand that's still a big conceit to leave out), 3 and NV are very close to 4.
The biggest complaint I see is the dialogue system, which, yes it's got the shitty mass effect "simplification" which is horrible. But other than that, the dialogue doesn't really impact any narrative "depth" any more than Bethesda already did with Fallout 3. It's pretty much the same level of stilted cycling dialogue you got from 3 and less so from NV, it's just in a different coat of paint.
Well 4 has no level cap and I would imagine anyone (and everyone) will have the entire perk list filled out but 1) that will take a long time 2) you will have finished all the content and then some . This game doesn't have quite the min-maxingness of NV (I'm hesitant to also say 3 but I haven't played 3 in forever and don't remember the skill system all that much). But, like the rest of Bethesda's post-Oblivion RPGs, there's not a whole lot of really detrimental downsides, which is my main issue with the character leveling side of things. Having low int doesn't severely impact anything except for stalling your weapon upgrading progress. Having low str just means you have to juggle your inventory even more than you would already do. I don't feel severely hindered as far as who I can talk with, interact with, and things I can do. Everything is "side ways" progression in that regard. Like, with hacking and pick-locking, or charming/threatening it's just a different alternative to reach the same goal rather than an outcome that could affect the world state.
Speaking of which, while there aren't a whole lot of things that affect the world state of the game early on (unlike Fallout 3's megaton), they're definitely still there.
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I'm mostly rambling and and any arguments I have will probably be really incoherent and unclear. It's super late (early?) and I have a headache so I probably can't quite say what I am trying to actually get across.
But last thing I'll mention is...
I really hate this trend of games that are just throwing in dating simulators into their RPGs and then letting people think it's "meaningful character interaction". That's all this and Bioware's RPGs feel like now when it comes to interacting with the side characters. Look at Shadowrun: Dragonfall for how to do side characters perfectly.
Imp the Dimp
Member
Anyone alrady seen this? No? because its awesome.
Well, given how uncannily similar both of these company's downfall in terms of quality was, no surprise.
aygomyownroad
Member
Help me Fallout GAF.
I have the local leader perk and want to link two settlements supply lines.
Sanctuary and
farm.
No matter who I go to it says the settler can't be used. What am I doing wrong
I have the local leader perk and want to link two settlements supply lines.
Sanctuary and
Abernethy
No matter who I go to it says the settler can't be used. What am I doing wrong
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
Such a heart warming interaction between developers, and you have to come in and be a colossal dick.
Solid post.
Impeccable
Member
If they are natural residents to a place they can't do supply lines.
You have to use generic "settlers"
Bedameister
Member
I think you need a new settler. Same happened for me. I think the people who are already at the farm from start can't be choosen. Same goes for the people at sanctuary. I got someone new onto the farm and I was able to use her to link it to some other place.
Who are you trying to do it on? Have you settlers already doing it from Sanctuary?
Xion_Stellar
People should stop referencing data that makes me feel uncomfortable because games get ported to platforms I don't like
Hello there OT2!
-So far I still haven't done the Main Quest Line besides getting to Diamond City.
-I'm currently working for the Railroad to unlock the Ballistic Weave Mid
-I'm currently Lv.31
-I finally added a4th Settlement to my trading routes.
I hope you guys are still having a grand time with the game despite it's shortcomings.
-So far I still haven't done the Main Quest Line besides getting to Diamond City.
-I'm currently working for the Railroad to unlock the Ballistic Weave Mid
-I'm currently Lv.31
-I finally added a4th Settlement to my trading routes.
I hope you guys are still having a grand time with the game despite it's shortcomings.
AuthenticM
Member
Do we know if the eventual Unofficial patch will be compatible with the console versions?
It would be good if it did that. But nope it just runs around as settlers punch it to death.
Captain Buzzkill saves the day
Anyway, I hit 50 hours last night and I've still got a ton of quests to finish up. Not even done with the main quest yet but I just
took out the Courser with the reset code.
This is disappointing. I wanted a synth to pop out of a cow power armour.
What a delightful person!
They said they were going PC Beta patch > Full Steam patch > Console patch, so I'm guessing only the 'full' patch will make it to consoles.
AuthenticM
Member
I thought most, if not all, mods would be compatible with the consoles?
texhnolyze
Banned
Ugh, the higher level I am, the more silly the damage vs hp ratio are.
Why can't I 1 shot to the head kill anymore? Headshots only do about half of the enemies' hp nowadays.
Why can't I 1 shot to the head kill anymore? Headshots only do about half of the enemies' hp nowadays.
BizzyBum
Member
This is why no one likes GAF.
It depends. If you are in a new area mobs will be your level.
Blue Ninja
Member
He's talking about Unofficial Patches, which are mods.
As for whether they'll be there or not, we simply don't know. We don't know anything about the new Creation Kit and how porting things to consoles works. If my assumption is correct and most mods that use .esp's or .esm's will work, they should find their way on there.
My bad!