Fallout 4 - The Wanderer Trailer [Live Action]

Venom Fox

Banned
Who's trolling or baiting, simply sharing my opinion that the graphics are good enough for me, sorry you disagree.

Oh back seat modding is bannable, isn't it?
Not back seat modding, just pointing out a fact. Seemed like baiting to me and others.
 

Enduin

No bald cap? Lies!
Umm I'm sorry but Piper looks like a plastic doll. The character facial animation is a lot better in TW3. The textures for the faces are a lot better too. Even on the console versions of TW3.

Also presumably TW3 had a smaller budget than F4.

I've played nearly 100 hours of TW3 on PC and I'm looking at videos right now of conversations, the animations are not that great in TW3. They're fine and get the job done, but they don't appear at all that much better than what we've seen so far in FO4. Graphics and character models are definitely better as I said.

Bethesda also has about 100x the money as CDPR, they could hire additional staff if they wanted to. Can't use that as an excuse. Don't get me wrong I'm a huge Bethesda fan, but the truth is the graphics pale in comparison to the Witcher 3.

I doubt they have that much more, not to mention TW3 had an 81 million dollar budget. That's not small potatoes for any game, especially when comparing costs of development. Labor costs and just about everything else is considerably cheaper in Poland than the US. BGS has been ~100 people for over a decade. I don't begrudge them for wanting to maintain a certain size and quality of life in their offices. Scaling up and increasing your staff can be very taxing and change the way a company feels and operates.

And I'm not saying things are totally equal between the two. TW3 is definitely the better looking game without question, but the gulf is not that great between to say FO4 looks bad in comparison, at least when it comes to animations and less so when it comes to character models.
 

CrazyDude

Member
Who's trolling or baiting, simply sharing my opinion that the graphics are good enough for me, sorry you disagree.

Oh back seat modding is bannable, isn't it?

You are back seat back seat modding.

Oh crap! Now I'm back seat back seat back seat modding!
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5m6lymJy57E

Dion The Wanderer

Album: Runaround Sue
Released: 1961
that's the song from the trailer

my generation.. yeah I was just a kid

for those that are interested

Well I'm the type of guy who will never settle down
Where pretty girls are will you know that I'm around
I kiss'em and I love'em 'cause to me they're all the same
I hug'em and I squeeze'em they don't even know my name
They call me the wanderer - yeah -the wanderer
I roam around around around around

Oh, well there's Flo on my left arm and there's Marry on my right
And Jenny's the girl with that I'll be with tonight
And when she asks me which one I love the best
I'll tear open my shirt and show her Rosie on my chest
'Cause I'm the wanderer - yeah -the wanderer
I roam around around around around

Oh, well I roam from town to town
I go through life without a care
And I'm as happy as a clown
And with my two fists of iron but I'm going nowhere

Oh yeah, I'm the type of guy that likes to roam around
I'm never in one place I roam from town to town
And when I find myself fallin' for some girl
I hope right into that car of mine I drive around the world
Yeah I'm a wanderer yeah the wanderer
I roam around around around around
Lettin' go

Oh yeah, I'm the type of guy that likes to roam around
I'm never in one place I roam from town to town
And when I find myself fallin' for some girl
I hope right into that car of mine drive around the world
'Cause I'm a wanderer yeah the wanderer
I roam around around around around around around
'Cause I'm a wanderer yeah the wanderer
I roam around around around around around around around
'Cause I'm a wanderer I'm a wanderer
 
I've played nearly 100 hours of TW3 on PC and I'm looking at videos right now of conversations, the animations are not that great in TW3. They're fine and get the job done, but they don't appear at all that much better than what we've seen so far in FO4. Graphics and character models are definitely better as I said.



I doubt they have that much more, not to mention TW3 had an 81 million dollar budget. That's not small potatoes for any game, especially when comparing costs of development. Labor costs and just about everything else is considerably cheaper in Poland than the US. BGS has been ~100 people for over a decade. I don't begrudge them for wanting to maintain a certain size and quality of life in their offices. Scaling up and increasing your staff can be very taxing and change the way a company feels and operates.

And I'm not saying things are totally equal between the two. TW3 is definitely the better looking game without question, but the gulf is not that great between to say FO4 looks bad in comparison, at least when it comes to animations and less so when it comes to character models.

Again huge Bethesda fan but Witcher 3 character models >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fallout 4 models. Its not even close, as you suggested.
 

sappyday

Member
I've played nearly 100 hours of TW3 on PC and I'm looking at videos right now of conversations, the animations are not that great in TW3. They're fine and get the job done, but they don't appear at all that much better than what we've seen so far in FO4. Graphics and character models are definitely better as I said.



I doubt they have that much more, not to mention TW3 had an 81 million dollar budget. That's not small potatoes for any game, especially when comparing costs of development. Labor costs and just about everything else is considerably cheaper in Poland than the US. BGS has been ~100 people for over a decade. I don't begrudge them for wanting to maintain a certain size and quality of life in their offices. Scaling up and increasing your staff can be very taxing and change the way a company feels and operates.

And I'm not saying things are totally equal between the two. TW3 is definitely the better looking game without question, but the gulf is not that great between to say FO4 looks bad in comparison, at least when it comes to animations and less so when it comes to character models.

I've played 100 hours on the PS4 and I'm also looking at the F4 conversation footage and I can tell it's pretty much lackluster in comparison to TW3. We must have different eyes because F4's character facial animation looks like shit compared to the TW3
 

ANDS

Banned
Again huge Bethesda fan but Witcher 3 character models >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fallout 4 models. Its not even close, as you suggested.


The human faces shown are a vast improvement over what was in Fallout 3. There is no question.

Fallout 4 doesn't need to "look" like The Witcher 3. The Witcher 3 can look as hot and pretty as it wants, however it runs like dog shit a lot of the times at the cost of this veneer. Fallout 4 looks good enough to warrant it's existence on the PS4 and XB1 only, and not past-gen consoles.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5m6lymJy57E

Dion The Wanderer

Album: Runaround Sue
Released: 1961
that's the song from the trailer

my generation.. yeah I was just a kid

for those that are interested

Well I'm the type of guy who will never settle down
Where pretty girls are will you know that I'm around
I kiss'em and I love'em 'cause to me they're all the same
I hug'em and I squeeze'em they don't even know my name
They call me the wanderer - yeah -the wanderer
I roam around around around around

Oh, well there's Flo on my left arm and there's Marry on my right
And Jenny's the girl with that I'll be with tonight
And when she asks me which one I love the best
I'll tear open my shirt and show her Rosie on my chest
'Cause I'm the wanderer - yeah -the wanderer
I roam around around around around

Oh, well I roam from town to town
I go through life without a care
And I'm as happy as a clown
And with my two fists of iron but I'm going nowhere

Oh yeah, I'm the type of guy that likes to roam around
I'm never in one place I roam from town to town
And when I find myself fallin' for some girl
I hope right into that car of mine I drive around the world
Yeah I'm a wanderer yeah the wanderer
I roam around around around around
Lettin' go

Oh yeah, I'm the type of guy that likes to roam around
I'm never in one place I roam from town to town
And when I find myself fallin' for some girl
I hope right into that car of mine drive around the world
'Cause I'm a wanderer yeah the wanderer
I roam around around around around around around
'Cause I'm a wanderer yeah the wanderer
I roam around around around around around around around
'Cause I'm a wanderer I'm a wanderer

Loving it, getting strong F3 OST vibes! One of my all time fav OSTs!
 
I've played 100 hours on the PS4 and I'm also looking at the F4 conversation footage and I can tell it's pretty much lackluster in comparison to TW3. We must have different eyes because F4's character facial animation looks like shit compared to the TW3
but fallout has the music!!
 

Tigress

Member
The human faces shown are a vast improvement over what was in Fallout 3. There is no question.

Fallout 4 doesn't need to "look" like The Witcher 3. The Witcher 3 can look as hot and pretty as it wants, however it runs like dog shit a lot of the times at the cost of this veneer. Fallout 4 looks good enough to warrant it's existence on the PS4 and XB1 only, and not past-gen consoles.

I agree here.

Also, if we are going to compare Witcher to Fallout, I think Witcher's characters look more like moving plastic dolls than Fallout's do. A lot of it is that they are too shiny. The skin is too shiny, there are many clothes that are too shiny. They just look really plasticky to me. And down right disturbing if they are wet. The whole bathtub scene with Geralt just makes me cringe cause he looks really disturbing cause his skin looks so plasticky.

I do think the movement is better (at least judging by that one tiny clip we have and their mouth movements... at least what i could tell cuase it was pretty low res and if I notice it's low res it's pretty bad).

Overall, I'm fine with the graphics as they are. I'm more interested they focus on other areas as the graphics are good enough (and they definitely don't look like Fallout 3. They look better and improved than previous fallouts and that's all I care. Hell, make the game fun enough in other aspects I wouldn't even care if they weren't. Graphics are not the important part of fallout and not why I find it fun so I find this criticism that people like to hang on that the graphics aren't shiny enough kinda silly. I don't recall one Fallout that was ever known for super good graphics. I'm more worried about the dialogue and voice acted character honestly).

Even Witcher wasn't the best graphics in my honest opinion. That wasn't important to me either, they were good enough. Honestly, I'm not going to say graphics are totally unimporant, I do think they need to be good enough. But as long as they are, I'd rather developers focus on other stuff anyways.

But then again, I'm a console player and already by that you can tell my priorties aren't graphics ;).
 

TheStruggler

Report me for trolling ND/TLoU2 threads
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5m6lymJy57E

Dion The Wanderer

Album: Runaround Sue
Released: 1961
that's the song from the trailer

my generation.. yeah I was just a kid

for those that are interested

Well I'm the type of guy who will never settle down
Where pretty girls are will you know that I'm around
I kiss'em and I love'em 'cause to me they're all the same
I hug'em and I squeeze'em they don't even know my name
They call me the wanderer - yeah -the wanderer
I roam around around around around

Oh, well there's Flo on my left arm and there's Marry on my right
And Jenny's the girl with that I'll be with tonight
And when she asks me which one I love the best
I'll tear open my shirt and show her Rosie on my chest
'Cause I'm the wanderer - yeah -the wanderer
I roam around around around around

Oh, well I roam from town to town
I go through life without a care
And I'm as happy as a clown
And with my two fists of iron but I'm going nowhere

Oh yeah, I'm the type of guy that likes to roam around
I'm never in one place I roam from town to town
And when I find myself fallin' for some girl
I hope right into that car of mine I drive around the world
Yeah I'm a wanderer yeah the wanderer
I roam around around around around
Lettin' go

Oh yeah, I'm the type of guy that likes to roam around
I'm never in one place I roam from town to town
And when I find myself fallin' for some girl
I hope right into that car of mine drive around the world
'Cause I'm a wanderer yeah the wanderer
I roam around around around around around around
'Cause I'm a wanderer yeah the wanderer
I roam around around around around around around around
'Cause I'm a wanderer I'm a wanderer

HD Version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkoidwsLXCg

EDIT: didnt know this guy did Runaround Sue as well :eek:
 
Eeey, The Wanderer! I can't wait to see what music they've picked for Fallout 4. (Also - thank you, Bethesda, for the gift of tight vault suits.)

I absolutely love Piper's design, too. I will agree that her mouth movement is incredibly creepy, though.
 
When will this be the standard in terms of visuals in games? 10 years? 20?

I don't know how long it will take, but I do know it won'be be good enough when it happens :p I'm (half) joking of course. I liked the ad, really enjoy the music. This might be my most hyped game for the rest of the year now that Persona 5 has been pushed back.
 

ezekial45

Banned
That was a fucking great trailer. I've got no doubt this will also be the TV Spot for the game as well.

I take it this was the video that the leak from earlier this year talked about regarding GDT's production studio working on a live-action trailer for the game.
 

Creaking

He touched the black heart of a mod
I too came to this conclusion after viewing the highly compressed youtube capture, as I have seen a few in my day.

Compression isn't a factor at all. Look at the shoulder area on the woman. And it's not hard to see that the textures are leaning towards the blurry end of things. Maybe they've got nice specular mapping, but they aren't very sharp.
 
Eish, that clothing geometry and texture work... This game was definitely cross-gen for a while.
I don't see why you think that so conclusively. There are other pretty reasonable explanations for how Fallout 4 looks, and they're brought up in these threads often.
 

joecanada

Member
I like how Bethesda felt bad about people complaining about weak graphics so instead of showin any gameplay they only show cartoons and live action or CGI

This trailer was kinda nice, but also completely empty on ideas, pretty much the most generic "fallout" thing a person could come up with. Weak effort.

I like how you believe they modified all their trailers based on some trolls on the internet.
 

ANDS

Banned
You put a lot of faith in Bethesada's character creator being able to render human looking minorties.

They seemed to do a decent change with Garvey and the "minority" dad in the E3 demo.

I can't believe we're less than a month away and we've seen so little in-game footage.

There's 22 minutes of gameplay on the YouTube if you're so inclined. That hardly counts as "little".

Also Bethesda released a short compilation of videos a week prior to Fallout 3 coming out. They have more than enough time to do that here.
 

Fjordson

Member
That was really cool! Starting to get pretty hyped tbh.

Also, it still hasn't fully hit me that we're about to get a new Fallout. Guess it's just sort of snuck up on me since it's only been officially revealed for a few months now.
 

Tovarisc

Member
I can't believe we're less than a month away and we've seen so little in-game footage.

There is only one SPECIAL video left and then we have few weeks until release date. I expect some gameplay videos between last SPECIAL video and release.
 
There is only one SPECIAL video left and then we have few weeks until release date. I expect some gameplay videos between last SPECIAL video and release.

I'm sure they will send the game out to every major twitch streamer as well. There will be plenty of footage before release.
 

Enduin

No bald cap? Lies!
There is only one SPECIAL video left and then we have few weeks until release date. I expect some gameplay videos between last SPECIAL video and release.

A decent bet is we'll see something next Friday as that is Oct 23, which in game is the date the bombs fell. So it would be a pretty obvious date to do something special.
 
Great trailer. Just a question, how many of you use Power Armor? I can never liked wearing it cause my build is usually agility based, but the way they emphasize wearing power armor In videos makes me wonder, should I be wearing Power Armor
 

Enduin

No bald cap? Lies!
Great trailer. Just a question, how many of you use Power Armor? I can never liked wearing it cause my build is usually agility based, but the way they emphasize wearing power armor In videos makes me wonder, should I be wearing Power Armor

Power Armor looks to operate a lot differently this time around. Chances are it's not going to be just a piece of armor or clothing like in FO3 and NV, but an entity within the world. We'll likely get one suit early on and then over the course of the game find materials and parts in order to retro fit it to our liking.

It seems like it will be a legit suit of armor this go around and not a glorified item, it has its own health, HUD and fuel/power system of some kind and more than likely won't be limited to any one character build type, but something that will be useful in some way to all builds. As well as something we won't be able to just wear anywhere. I get the feeling it will kind of be like a vehicle in a way. We'll get in and out of it and have to retrieve it going by one post Pete Hines made.
 

Metroidvania

People called Romanes they go the house?
Great trailer. Just a question, how many of you use Power Armor? I can never liked wearing it cause my build is usually agility based, but the way they emphasize wearing power armor In videos makes me wonder, should I be wearing Power Armor

Well, Power Armor looks to be...quite different from FO3/NV's portrayal. In 3/NV, it really wasn't necessary unless you wanted to stomp around or were playing a melee/unarmed build.

But now, in terms of what it's 'capable' of doing (at least, that we've seen) we know that it's more akin to actual power armor rather than a cosmetic armor with high stats.

Add in stuff like the jump jets, possible in-game benefits with strength, weapon sway, etc....and we'll have to wait for more info before 'optimizing'.

edit: Beat, lol.
 

Rflagg

Member
This was a nice trailer, but I am not the biggest fan of this live action trailer/ad trend. I really liked the tone and feel of it, I just would have preferred in game footage.
 
Power Armor looks to operate a lot differently this time around. Chances are it's not going to be just a piece of armor or clothing like in FO3 and NV, but an entity within the world. We'll likely get one suit early on and then over the course of the game find materials and parts in order to retro fit it to our liking.

It seems like it will be a legit suit of armor this go around and not a glorified item, it has its own health, HUD and fuel/power system of some kind and more than likely won't be limited to any one character build type, but something that will be useful in some way to all builds. As well as something we won't be able to just wear anywhere. I get the feeling it will kind of be like a vehicle in a way. We'll get in and out of it and have to retrieve it going by one post Pete Hines made.

Well, Power Armor looks to be...quite different from FO3/NV's portrayal. In 3/NV, it really wasn't necessary unless you wanted to stomp around or were playing a melee/unarmed build.

But now, in terms of what it's 'capable' of doing (at least, that we've seen) we know that it's more akin to actual power armor rather than a cosmetic armor with high stats.

Add in stuff like the jump jets, possible in-game benefits with strength, weapon sway, etc....and we'll have to wait for more info before 'optimizing'.

edit: Beat, lol.

I missed that bit of info, thanks for letting me know. I hope it turns out as good as it sounds cause that sounds amazing. No way this game is a let down.
 

Tigress

Member
Great trailer. Just a question, how many of you use Power Armor? I can never liked wearing it cause my build is usually agility based, but the way they emphasize wearing power armor In videos makes me wonder, should I be wearing Power Armor

I never used it cause I was the same. I liked playing a sneaky sniper who would kill from afar as much as possible. And seeing as it just seemed to be super heavy armor that gave you a lot more armor and some strength to make up for the weight (but made it hard to stealth), didn't really care for it.

But, if it is really more like a vehicle this time I might play around with it cause it sounds like fun.
 

luxarific

Nork unification denier
Bethesda really should commission Del Toro to do a Fallout movie. Give that poor bastard a project to work on that doesn't blow up in his face.

Guh, that would be fantastic seriously. That sort of dark humor would be right up his alley.
 
Ohhh yes, and get Chris Avellone and Todd Howard both on as lead writers.

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