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Father of 4 detained by ICE while dropping his kids off at school
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Beastdrowski
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Fuck this country.
I wonder how many that work there are the stereotypical immigration fearing racist
the family is the threat. if they're over here and Americanized they aren't 'going back where they came from', they're going to change things here. and stay.
whyamihere
Banned
How is this man a danger to his community? Why isn't ICE going after actual threats? Why are they tearing families apart?
Ugh. This is so gross.
Ugh. This is so gross.
Gentleman Jack
Member
From personal experience? 100%
Because the stooges have a boner for doing this sort of thing.
I'm not going to assume that every single person at ICE is a racist, because I'm sure there are those who just wanted to do some actual good, but yeah, I bet a good amount of them would use words like "purity" and "Competitive breeding".
I came here to create a thread on this because this fills me with such rage and contempt for every member of the Drumpf Administration that cannot be expressed properly at the moment. This needs to never be forgotten. ICE, but more importantly, this administration that enabled this level of heartless action, should be bloody ashamed of what has happened, if anyone in said administration is capable of feeling such an emotion or any emotion not blinded by their bile bigotry. This goes well beyond offensive, it's downright inhuman to do this in front of a child, let alone one being dropped off at school.
EDIT: There was a similarly fucked up story of tragedy befalling a parent and their child's school following Canada's 2015 election where a Muslim woman was robbed and put into the hospital by some backwards-ass racist trash who told her to "go back to her country". She was picking up her child from school. It's certainly not a shock, but it nevertheless remains repulsive to know these loathsome scum sucker live in the same country.
EDIT: There was a similarly fucked up story of tragedy befalling a parent and their child's school following Canada's 2015 election where a Muslim woman was robbed and put into the hospital by some backwards-ass racist trash who told her to "go back to her country". She was picking up her child from school. It's certainly not a shock, but it nevertheless remains repulsive to know these loathsome scum sucker live in the same country.
radios shipping overview
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This is done with malicious intent, just like the travel ban. The people responsible for this are monsters.
echoshifting
Banned
Pure evil and incredibly terrifying.
radios shipping overview
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ICE and CBP are functioning as paramilitary organizations and unaccountable secret police at this point.
It's a weird situation it seems in the US where people *are* there illegally, but enforcement has been so low that to crack down now seems rough.
At the same time, without any kind of amnesty in place, it is the law. Perhaps a pass for people who can prove they have been there for 10 years without any significant convictions (e.g. not one-off DUIs).
At the same time, without any kind of amnesty in place, it is the law. Perhaps a pass for people who can prove they have been there for 10 years without any significant convictions (e.g. not one-off DUIs).
based on the post above yours... maybe?
These days I think about this a lot.
What kind of person feels good about this? They just destroyed a family for no reason, do they go home and feel proud of themselves when they see their own families? They know this man was no danger to anyone, he is just like any other person on the street.
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Just watched the video, it makes me even more sick that it's other Mexicans doing this shit to their own people.
metalslimer
Member
DUI is awful but there isn't even a contest when it comes to the harm that comes to his children from deportation
Drinking and driving is immensely shitty, but who is realistically going to go to bat that someone should be deported for it after 10 years?
Well they're deported for being in the US illegally, right? It's not like deporting someone on a visa for that conviction.
Linkstrikesback
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So can we just call them Gestapo yet or...
Hopefully this shit gets knocked on the head before a night of long knives happens. How much of a monster do you have to be to jump a father dropping his kids off at school Ffs.
Hopefully this shit gets knocked on the head before a night of long knives happens. How much of a monster do you have to be to jump a father dropping his kids off at school Ffs.
radios shipping overview
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Enforcement decisions are always at the discretion of whoever's in charge, and with the new boss in town, it's apparently time to crack down, without regard for individual situations.
brandonh83
Banned
Trump's America. Land of the free.
Oh for sure, and I'm not saying it's right. Just pointing out that the deportation is for being in the US illegally *and* having a DUI, not just for having a DUI.
Seriously, I have to assume that some segment of Homeland Security agents are sick to their stomaches by how much their job has changed since Trump got into office.
DEA is undoubtably going to be coming after all those people smoking marijuana in "legal" states soon too. Once we get videos of this happening to a white guy dropping off his kid because the feds saw him buying some weed maybe then people will be more outraged and call for change.
So he had the time in those 20 years to have kids and get a DUI and not bother to become a citizen? Sorry, but I've gotten a DUI and served jail time for my own mistakes. He could have served the same if he went through the process of becoming a legal citizen. No sympathy. Adios. 👋🏻
It sucks for the kids, but maybe don't break laws in a country you're not a legal resident in. His fault his kids will have to suffer through all this.
It sucks for the kids, but maybe don't break laws in a country you're not a legal resident in. His fault his kids will have to suffer through all this.
Black Mamba
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If I was working at ICE right now, I'd quit. Full stop. I couldn't allow myself to be behind what is going on right now. I couldn't sleep.
ICE should quit but unfortunately, I fear a lot of these people in ICE enjoy what they're doing.
Good that a bunch of midwest babies voted 3rd party though because both parties are the same. Hillary and Trump are the same!
ICE should quit but unfortunately, I fear a lot of these people in ICE enjoy what they're doing.
Good that a bunch of midwest babies voted 3rd party though because both parties are the same. Hillary and Trump are the same!
Black Mamba
Member
Spoken like someone who has no understanding of how hard it is to become a citizen when you're in this man's position.
No sympathy? Biting my tongue here. Maybe another GAFer will speak their mind...
Disgusting.
All these cases have made me realize I'm clueless as to how illegal immigration works in the US vs. other places. He obviously wasn't hiding in the shadows and was convicted of a DUI while in the country, yet was allowed to remain anyway? Is this normal for other developed nations? I always assumed nations were more proactive in pursuing people that they knew weren't allowed to be in the country anymore.
Not living in my native country right now but I assume if I was in the country I'm in now illegally, I would have to get out ASAP or live in the shadows or something. Living here for decades illegally + being arrested + having a family and remaining sounds bizarre.
I get that the US is (presumably) unique in that is has millions of people living there illegally so the way they handle it would be different, just wondering how unique it is comparatively.
Not living in my native country right now but I assume if I was in the country I'm in now illegally, I would have to get out ASAP or live in the shadows or something. Living here for decades illegally + being arrested + having a family and remaining sounds bizarre.
I get that the US is (presumably) unique in that is has millions of people living there illegally so the way they handle it would be different, just wondering how unique it is comparatively.
Shadow Puppetry
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He also has a nearly decade-old DUI conviction, and "apparently a conviction from over 20 years ago related to having bought a car that he did not realize had a registration sticker on it that did not belong on the car," according to MacLean.
"Those are his criminal convictions in over 25 years in this country. And ICE is saying this is why he's a 'bad' immigrant and should be deported," MacLean explained. "Basically what ICE has told officials is that this man has prior convictions, as a way of essentially throwing him under the bus."
This..boils my blood...cabrones.
"Those are his criminal convictions in over 25 years in this country. And ICE is saying this is why he's a 'bad' immigrant and should be deported," MacLean explained. "Basically what ICE has told officials is that this man has prior convictions, as a way of essentially throwing him under the bus."
This..boils my blood...cabrones.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
I'd wager this cat was worth at least two full citizens who voted for trump
You're not sorry, at least not in the way you meant it
You're not sorry, at least not in the way you meant it
Not normal in other developed nations. Most countries if you're there illegally and come to the attention of the authorities, you're out. If you're there on a legitimate visa and catch a conviction, you're also out.
He's being deported under that pretense yeah, but he's being singled out for a decision he made 10 years ago, while almost undoubtedly being in the general vicinity of other people with far more dangerous and timely convictions.
You either have no idea how the process of becoming a citizen is in the US and are just accusing the guy with zero knowledge in your part, which doesn't make you look good.
Or, you do know how impossible the process is and are accusing WHILE knowing it's pretty much impossible for him, which doesn't make you look good.
Which is it?
Steeped in a Sea of Games
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How about, he's already a citizen in pretty much every way bar a stupid piece of paper and now there's 4 kids who are missing a major source income meaning there's a good chance tax payers get to foot the bill where before the father likely provided for the family while also paying taxes. We also have 4 kids who are now more likely to end up criminals themselves from having a fractured home not to mention hate this country just a little more. That doesn't even bring in the monetary cost just to have him deported and the social damage to his community.
This is bad for everyone and you can seriously fuck off with your putrid worldview. With attitudes like yours, he probably deserved to live here more than you.
Shadow Puppetry
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That DUI was 20 years ago, hence why ICE deported him for the "bad" hombre part, not because he here illegally. Obtaining a alien resident card takes a while.
whyamihere
Banned
This is pretty gross.
It's always fun when someone takes an issue full of subtleties and nuances, and boil it down to its most basic parts.
"You broke law, now you must pay!".
Fortunately, in most cases justice isnt served so heavy handed.
Especially for upper classes who face no responsibility for their actions
whyamihere
Banned
I love how Republicans had no problems with liberal immigration policies when it was helping them win votes in south Florida.
Your attitude only makes our country less safe. These kids just lost a father. What is he gonna do? He has no life anywhere else. Your attitude is ignorant, childish, disgusting and have no comprehension how hard it can be to gain citizenship. My dad is Mexican and pretty well off, and the path for him to get his citizenship is absursley complicated. I can't imagine what the father would have to deal with. Grow up, man.
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