Melon Husk
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She better inherit Obama's IT team.
FBI: Clinton "never deleted, nor did she instruct anyone to delete, her e-mail"
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Sectorseven
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If she can't send an e-mail, how is she going to launch the nukes?
mrhyderager
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Alright so she's old and can't figure out emails... and we want this person running the entire country? Are you people out of your god damn minds?
It's cute if grandma can't figure it out.
It's potentially disastrous if the leader of the free world can't.
Inb4 "So then Trump...." I hate Trump too, I just don't buy this excuse.
It's cute if grandma can't figure it out.
It's potentially disastrous if the leader of the free world can't.
Inb4 "So then Trump...." I hate Trump too, I just don't buy this excuse.
I thought you were going to say the guys in the chatlogs
excelsiorlef
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What the hell do you think NeoGAF is?
I have a 50 year old uncle until two or three years ago had never used a touchpad and had no clue how they worked.
NikonShots
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Guys she was the secretary of state, I'm sure she was informed on what is considered classified? I'm sure she was qualified to do the job right?
It's more to do with common sense than computers, Hillary is not setting up networks herself lol. It's just all things that could have been avoided. She could just sit back and do nothing util November, Trump beats himself. This constantly happening in the news cycle is disheartening but at the same time, just carry the encrypted device given to you, buy a handbag and carry around multiple devices!
This all stemmed from not wanting to carry around all those devices.
whyamihere
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No those are hilarious, and also explains just how ridiculous this whole thing is.
Being smart doesn't make you an expert on all or even any subjects. You still have to take the time to learn so in this way, she could absolutely be an aloof grandma.
Decaf is your friend, Gutek.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Trump has stated he doesn't even use e-mail. That's the reality you face.
You have no idea what you're talking about. I do IT for doctors, who are subject to privacy acts and hold the keys to sensitive material, and could by no means be called 'unintelligent', but are completely helpless when it comes to their computers.
WaffleTaco
Wants to outlaw technological innovation.
There are plenty of people her age that are competent at computers. She's going to be President of the United States. It is extreme carelessness and her age is not an excuse for her behavior.
I am still voting for her, but we cannot keep defending her on this.
I am still voting for her, but we cannot keep defending her on this.
NikonShots
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Maybe none of our elected officials should, it just gets them into trouble. Our country did just fine with out emails before. Well whatever besides Watergate, but still. I mean Anthony Weiner would probably still find a way, drawing pictures of his dick on a yellow sticky note. Idk, it's just ridiculous it's still going on and it's never going away.
My mother is an ER doctor and she's an absolute idiot when it comes to computers.
Angelus Errare
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People really should let go of the notion that because you're educated or work in certain fields, it automatically means you know how to use a computer competently.
I know older folks with 4+ degrees who don't know how to use computers. And the average lawyer, doctor, etc who work with sensitive data are actually pretty oblivious to computer usage.
Reminds me of the people who think anyone who knows even a modicum about computers is either an IT guy, or programmer.
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
whyamihere
Banned
No, it's absolutely an excuse that for a person whose job it is not to deal with computers every day and who didn't grow up around computers and internet and email that they might not actually know how it operates.
Going to go on a limb and say most people don't know how servers work!
Aside from the fact that Hillary was a lawyer decades before smartphones or public email existed, shitty cybersecurity at law firms is a pretty real thing today.
SRSLY GUYS HALP
I asked a friend who know about IT stuff and he says that maybe it will work if you fill in your own email address on that dark blue rectangle. No need to thank me!
exmachina64
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The bigger news is that PoliGAF has a chat room.
Bam Bam Baklava
Member
Should we go back to carrier pigeons too?
Sir Abacus
Member
I cannot agree with this. OS X Server is an incredible product for the SMB space.
mrhyderager
Member
I'm a project coordinator for a billion dollar IT company. There's no excuse. In that doctor's case, they hired a competent IT firm. In Hillary's case, she said "fuck it I'll do what I'm comfortable with."
That's pretty good for a grandma. Mine never had a phone, and had the most virused up laptop ever.
That's one thing I love about Apple and their iOS. Got my 85 year old grandma an ipad and shes basically a master of it now, using it to watch videos, read the news and as a camera (its cute watching a 4.5foot old lady use a ipad air as a camera).
NikonShots
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You type words and hit send, the problem wasn't her knowledge of Windows or Linux or how to look up IP address. Her problem amounted to
"I don't want to use that one, I want to use that one instead"
I get it, my mom has an Android phone and my Uncle unlocked it and flashed Roms on it and now my life has been a living hell helping her with it. End of the day a email is a email though.
If I told my mom "hey, bad guys will get your credit card info if you use the white phone, use the black one for very important texts"
And she goes and uses the white one
That's the sillly and totally unavoidable thing we are dealing with. We are voting this woman in as president, we might as well give her hell for this now and let her know she needs to be more careful.
I think the opposite.
There's a lot of people who know how to use email, but wouldn't know squat about healthcare or foreign policy. Which one matters more when you're running for president?
Do we have to expect the president to be omniscient? That's incredibly unrealistic, to be honest.
I could not possibly care any less about how well a president can use emails. I don't need someone who is an expert at everything, I need someone intelligent enough to surround themselves with experts.
That should be the money shot, but we can be sure that the usual krewe will be in here to "but but.." it into something else.
It's a pretty plainly-worded statement.
Do you really think the president handles sensitive material in his emails?
Which is the whole point. This was supposedly set up to not have classified info, which is why she did receive it, because it wasn't marked properly.
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
I think we are actually agreeing.
Ah, K Harvey chimed in as well, so we are definitely on the same page.
You monster.
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aztek is ok
It's weird how potentially damaging information about Hillary always come out on Fridays.
WaffleTaco
Wants to outlaw technological innovation.
Which is why you follow what IT and security people say. You listen to what the experts tell you to do so.
whyamihere
Banned
Great, you seem to be competent with IT. The vast majority of people are not and expecting them to be as a way to value whether they should be president or not is silly.
Which is also how we got here!
Are you guys reading the FBI's report, or no?
Melon Husk
Member
I'm missing something. What is the H supposed to be?
I mean, it's not like she literally does not how to use emails, it's that her judgment on and understanding of email security was (is?) poor. Which is bad, sure. But what does that have to do with how the White House sets up email security for the president?
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DontBeThatGuy
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Yep. If only everyone was this damn reasonable.
UnemployedVillain
Member
It literally says she hired people to ensure her emails were encrypted and they flat out didn't without telling her, simply so they could have access in case they needed to troubleshoot. This isn't her being careless. This is her simply not being an IT person and trusting they would set up everything correctly.
Her job isn't to work in IT. Emails are a means of communication, not something she has to master. People in here seem incredibly naive if they think intelligent older people can't still be tech illiterate. My parents still have basic trouble with emails, attachments and texting. I have to walk them through how to forward emails, despite them being a medical doctors and probably sending a number of emails to different people in their hospitals and departments daily
FullMetaltech
Member
Exactly. You just have to turn the letter to reveal the truth.
excelsiorlef
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If there was actually a pro Clinton conspiracy none of this would have come out at all.
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