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[IrishNinja]

Anti Logic?

So do you believe that it is a less serious crime to murder someone than to abuse a child?

Even if you believe they are both on a par, as they both ultimately ruin lives, how can you be so hypocritical as to endorse the glorification of one over the other?

And... "hypothetical murder"? Yeah, I bet the FBI keep tons of files on hypothetical murders. Besides, as we've already learnt from this thread:

i honestly don't know where to start wit this, man. you assume a) i subscribe to your metrics that there's a "par" (or that i'm going to abstractly quantify them for you), and that b) anyone citing wu lyrics here is directly supportive of the acts committed by a long-dead artist known for doing illegal shit.
if i was unclear, the "hypothetical" was my example of it being in self-defense.

but hey, i'm but a hypocrite here, so clearly i've learnt nothing.

 

[Urban Scholar]

Irish...the thread is derailing brah dont let go that route. Quick link me your favorite Wu songs!

 

[Jake.]

not really surprising, ghostface/meth/odb were the main 3 that were into the sketchiest shit. cappadonna has also been driving cabs on and off for almost a decade now, not really a recent thing (whoever said that). saw gza play last week and that du doesn't age one bit.

 

[IrishNinja]

good point, my bad US - here's some of my favorite gems from Return to the 36 that get less play!

Snakes

Killah Priest, RZA, Dirt, MK & Buddah Monk...my favorite line was prolly from RZA though "Justice must be born, there's no escape/Cause a snake can't be reformed, so why wait"

Cuttin Headz
I just love back & forth MC'ing like this, and he and RZA flow so natural on it.
"Here I go, here I go, whether friend whether foe/ Let them know that I flow, over the rainbow"

bonus non-36 track:

Masta Killah - Old Man YA BIG DUMMY
only big baby jesus rightfully flows over that beat, haha

almost forgot!
Ghostface & Ol Dirty Chinese Restaurant - Holla
right over the Delfonics, not even giving a fuck
"Like, an angry, cripple, man, don't push me/don't believe the kid, listen to me.."
i love that whole 2nd verse, really.

 

[Urban Scholar]

Thanks IS! Well bump later

 

[Chuckie]

They couldn't make 50 Cent back down.

Did he get into a fight with Wu Tang?

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

Did he get into a fight with Wu Tang?

I think 50s wiki page mentions it, but IIRC it was really nothing. Certainly nothing compared 50s War on Officer Ricky.

 

[SneakyStephan]

How can you have a felony possession of body armour?

Wouldnt that imply the body armour was illegal? Or just that he obtained it illegally?

If its the former I had no idea that would be illegal.

Maybe he beat someone to death with his kevlar vest while wearing armor made of guns.

 

[The Lamonster]

man, low life criminals are so cool

 

[sangreal]

Is there a secret squad of police officers, FBI, and even CIA agents who do nothing but stalk rappers

Now that's a motherfucking puzzle and no mistake.

There is, actually. There is a documentary about it

 

[Kapsama]

Did he get into a fight with Wu Tang?

Wutang got emotional over being mentioned in "How to rob". After a whole lot of huffing and puffing, Ghost called a truce with 50 Cent.

 

[CaptainMintMan]

I wonder how many dudes Redman had to body to get in good with Method.

 

[TheKaeptain]

They couldn't make 50 Cent back down.

Well that dude is a fucking Goon too.

 

[Nizz]

This should be the Wu Tang OT.

A few of my faves

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf3jzDb4H7o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl6jwab3HWk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2-5GSjZvW8

Brought back a lot of memories here. That tape stayed in the radio in my jeep and I never took it out. I must have listened to this album hundreds of times. Favorite Hip Hop group of all time.

 

[Shadow of the BEAST]

Soo looking at these videos.

was he a bit mentally challenged, like slightly retarded?

 

[IceCold]

Soo looking at these videos.

was he a bit mentally challenged, like slightly retarded?

I don't think a mentally challenged person would be able to produce the lyrics he wrote.


It's all drugs man.


Cocaine is a hell of a drug.

 

[JoshDigi]

Am surprised that possession of body armor is a felony though.

I teach the truth to the youth, I say hey youth
Here's the truth, better start wearing bullet proof

 

[empty vessel]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/jan/11/fbi-wu-tang-clan-ol-dirty-bastard?newsfeed=true

http://gun.io/blog/i-got-ol-dirty-bastards-fbi-file/

Shimmy Shimmy Ya

For the record, FBI reports like this--like all law enforcement reports--aren't necessarily very reliable. Nothing in them should be taken at face value.

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

I wonder how many dudes Redman had to body to get in good with Method.

I never get the impression that he had to do anything.

It's like the opposite of put Lil Wayne, Drake, Officer Ricky, and +1 Random person into a blender and then put on Itunes....then to radio...then I have to hear Officer Ricky sound like a constipated bear trying to take a shit in the woods when flipping stations.

For the record, FBI reports like this--like all law enforcement reports--aren't necessarily very reliable. Nothing in them should be taken at face value.

Man is right, a lot of time it's just reports passed along. They're more for background/investigation than any sort of evidence/prosecution purpose.

 

[Az]

You know I am about to start some shit..

Meth>rest of WTC

 

[bengraven]

"The WTC is heavily involved in the sale of drugs, illegal guns, weapons possession, murder, - carjacking and other types of violent crime."

*slaps head* Of COURSE.

A Wu Tang GTA clone. What a fucking great idea, why didn't I think of this before?

Connections to the Bloods Gang

I think everyone knew this.

"Yo! Yo! Yo, fuck that, look at all these crab niggaz laid back..."

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

You know I am about to start some shit..

Meth>rest of WTC

Nah, everyone can have their favorites, I just though the image was too funny not to use.

*slaps head* Of COURSE.

A Wu Tang GTA clone. What a fucking great idea, why didn't I think of this before?

That would have been awesome. That said GTA Chinatown does have a Ghostface song on it.

 

[Zekes!]

I know a 17/18 year old girl who slept with GZA when he was in town

 

[OG Kush]

not really surprising, ghostface/meth/odb were the main 3 that were into the sketchiest shit.

How u forgetting the chef?!

also, anyone play this?

wu tang super nintendo commercial: http://vimeo.com/20086657

 

[DonasaurusRex]

Did he get into a fight with Wu Tang?

he said something jokingly about ODB *among other rappers* and GFK came out with a track called Who the Fuck is 50 cent, and proceeded to describe him as 40 cent, 2 dimes and a quarter, etc etc thru out the song. Another time he said something about the wu tang or something and GZA made a diss track on em but nothing ever came out of it. I dont think 50 ever responded or dug into people that would actually do something back to him , like Tha Lox or the Wu.

 

[AVclub]

This (and other) word for word rip offs from Reddit's front page really make me question some people's posting habits.

ODB was a hoodlum in real life. Rap was just a hobby/hustle for him.

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

How u forgetting the chef?!

Didn't a lot of the stuff come from issues with RZA's cousin something Griff or Power, I can't recall the name off hand.

That said now I want to reup to Spotify and just listen to EVERY Wu-Tang album and solo.

 

[Kitschkraft]

Wutang got emotional over being mentioned in "How to rob". After a whole lot of huffing and puffing, Ghost called a truce with 50 Cent.

Not before shooting a hole through a 50 cent piece to test his aim.

 

[DonasaurusRex]

Brought back a lot of memories here. That tape stayed in the radio in my jeep and I never took it out. I must have listened to this album hundreds of times. Favorite Hip Hop group of all time.

Back when ALLLLLLL 10 of them were on fire, yes even U God..wtf happened to him post Wu Tang Forever????

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

Back when ALLLLLLL 10 of them were on fire, yes even U God..wtf happened to him post Wu Tang Forever????

If I recall the album is pretty awful.

 

[Kitschkraft]

He has produced a crazy amount of amazing stuff....and more than his fair share of uninteresting/bad stuff.

I remember reading that he had some sort of studio fire/flood, lost a ton of material, and was never able to fully recover from the loss of so much work.

BTW, RZA fans should check out this season of Californication. His character is an extremely successful rapper that is now interested in acting/directing, dates Megan Good, and his name is : Samurai Apocalypse

 

[DOBERMAN INC]

RZA > Rest

 

[~Devil Trigger~]

90s rap can't be beat

the truth

and the GZA Genius is the Best lyricist.

his lines are sharp as hell

 

[FStop7]

You know I am about to start some shit..

Meth>rest of WTC

you misspelled "GZA"

 

[kehs]

This is GAF:

Criminal is "is heavily involved in the sale of drugs, illegal guns, weapons possession, murder, carjacking and other types of violent crime"
Pedophilia:
Loving the consistency that GAF apply equally to all forms of serious crime!

It's a good thing you made sure to cross match names and comments from individuals so you can show their individual hypocritical nature....


Oh wait.

 

[GringoJB]

Did he travel into a children cartoon to kill those people?

You know, you might think so. But, as the brother-in-law of a woman who repeatedly bones a sketchy dude who has a "business partner" known only as Bam Bam, I can assure you it's more common than you might think.

 

[Kapsama]

Well that dude is a fucking Goon too.

Yeah a real goon. Ja Rule fucked him up twice. This means Murder Inc. was harder than the Wu. Lol

 

[Count Dookkake]

Well that dude is a fucking Goon too.

He's not such a bad guy, either.

 

[hiryu]

I'll never forget when I worked at Electronic's Boutique and some members of the Wu-Tang used to come in all the time and one time my manager didn't know who they were and wondered why kids were coming up to them for autographs. Well my manager asked who they were when they were paying for their games and after they told him his asked for autographs and the guy handed back the signed credit card slip and said there you go. I laughed for half an hour.

 

[freenudemacusers]

He's not such a bad guy, either.

you've met him and rza (probably not at the same location haha)? cool. And 50 makes me laugh, seems like a hilarious dude for the most part.

 

[DonasaurusRex]

If I recall the album is pretty awful.

all his shit post wu tang forever is awful , doesnt have a verse that compares let along a song, or album...i cant explain it.

 

[OG Kush]

the truth

and the GZA Genius is the Best lyricist.

his lines are sharp as hell

[Method Man]
It's like this, I'mma start from the top
Inspectah Deck, he's like
He's like that dude thatta sit back and watch you
Play yourself and all that right?
And see you sit there and know you lyin
And he'll take you to court after that
Cuz he the Inspectah, that's why he the and
And also he the Rebel I.N.S.
You know what I'm sayin?
And Shallah Raekwon he the Chef
He cookin up some marvelous shit to get your mouth waterin
On some "O shit"
Then, then it's, then it's the Method Man
It's like mad different methods to the way I do my shit

[Raekwon]
You gotta smoke a bean in here, any how

[Method Man]
And I'm tellin you, mine
Basically Method Man is like
Roll that shit, light that shit, smoke it
And then Baby U, he a psychopathic
He a psychopathic thinker
And and, then we got, then we got the Ol' Dirty Bastard
Cuz they ain't no father to his style
That's why the Ol' Dirty Bastard
Ghostface Killah, you know what I'm sayin
He on some now you see me, now you don't
Know what I'm sayin
And and, the RZA, he the sharpest motherfucka in the whole Clan
He always on point, razasharp
With the beats, with the rhymes
Whatever, any DJ

[Raekwon]
And the GZA, the G is just the Genius, hee
He's the backbone of the whole shit

[RZA]
It's self explanatory, Genius

[Method Man]
He the head, let's put it that way
We form like Voltron, and GZA happen to be the head
You know what I'm sayin

[Interviewer from some British magazine]
Yeah yeah, that's cool
So what's like, I mean what's like your ultimate goal against in this
In this industry

[Method Man]
Domination baby, fuck that

[Raekwon]
Can I say this one? can I say this one?
Right now, right now, we still, we still
Feel like we ain't get what we want yet
When we get, when we get, when we get a little props
And really really get the way we gotta go?
That's when you know it's on?
You know what I'm sayin
Cuz right about now, I ain't braggin or nothin
But yo the Wu, the Wu got somethin that I know that everybody
Wanna hear?
Cuz I know I've been waitin to hear
You know what I'm sayin?
But straight up and down, till we get the goal
We gon keep goin

[Method Man]
Yeah, cuz we tryin to do all this
We tryin to make a business outta this man
We ain't tryin to-- know what I'm sayin
Affiliate ourselves with them fake ass A&R's and all that
We tryin to make our shit
So that when our children, word
So that when our children, all our seeds and whatever
They got somethin for theyselves right there

[Ghostface Killah]
We ain't tryin to hop in and hop out right quick?
Know what I'm sayin?
We out for the Gusto and we gon keep it raw
You know what I'm sayin [word]

 

[CommonSense]

Man it's a damn good thing they heatsealed them bags of loot, son,
. I don't want no fingerprints on my money.

In terms of rappers who actually lived the life ODB is definitely up there with 50, Eazy, and Brotha Lynch Hung.

 

[Az]

This (and other) word for word rip offs from Reddit's front page really make me question some people's posting habits.

ODB was a hoodlum in real life. Rap was just a hobby/hustle for him.

I used to hate on people mentioning Reddit and how stuff ends up here. That stopped once I started following Reddit a bit more.

 

[Conciliator]

This is serious and not funny and, as with any other artist, we can celebrate the art but still decry the artist, and violence sucks. BUT:

Found in possession of large bags full of paper currency.

That's hilarious. I like to think they had dollar signs drew on them in magic marker.

 

[fierrotlepou]

This (and other) word for word rip offs from Reddit's front page really make me question some people's posting habits.

ODB was a hoodlum in real life. Rap was just a hobby/hustle for him.

Here to post this. At least put some effort in making a topic.

 

[Misterinenja]

RZA > Rest

Yeah. RZA's part in 4th Chamber is my favorite rap verse of all time.

 

[Snuggles]

Best musical group ever. Anyone who doesn't know that Raekwon is the best is a sad, ignorant little man. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0CmIRODuI4

 

[The Lamonster]

This is GAF:

Loving the consistency that GAF apply equally to all forms of serious crime!

Yeah it's pretty embarrassing seeing all these GAF dudes glorifying a bunch of low class criminals.

 

[dankir]

Wu-Tang is for the kids

NAW SON, WU-TANG IS FOR THE CHILLIN'