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I am a UK resident. I am just fascinated by what is going on in the US. I can't believe it has come down to these two despicable human beings to be president of the most powerful nation in the world.

You had 350 million people to choose from.

:D

There's nothing despicable about HRC, she's an extremely accomplished public servant.
 
Go back and find where I said they are equally bad. You'll be looking forever, as I didn't say it. He is far worse than her, but this does not make her clean.

?? I didnt reply or referring to you...

They are the same in that they are both terrible candidates. Terrible to different degrees and in different ways, but still terrible. I guess a more accurate way to say this is that I wish someone else was running in place of both of them. So the sentiment that this is the best we can do is an accurate one to my mind.

One is Terrible based on a public perception thanks to an smear campaign that has being going on for more than a decade.
 
The point is that if it was there, the literal millions of dollars the GOP has pumped into destroying her over the years (both private and taxepayer funded witchhunts) would have led to something definitive by now. For god's sake, Russia dumped the contents of her campaign chief's emails into their lap and STILL nothing better than goddamn Donald Duck.

They been digging into Clintions for decades, remember when Congress got involved because they sent a Christmas card?
This is the FBI, not the GOP.

Again, this is absurd that it needs repeating, not the same.

IF the FBI found anything, then we should be concerned not just for the election, but her presidency. Definitely not the time for "yeah but GOP, bro."
 
i am a big Hillary fan but deleting 30,000 emails when you are being asked to turn over emails is pretty shady.

Accepting Clinton Foundation donations from foreign powers while working as Secretary of State when obama made her sign an agreement to not do exactly that is shady. It may not be illegal but like John Oliver said it 'LOOKS' really bad.

Accepting debate questions from Dona Brazille instead of telling her to fuck off is shady.

Hillary is shady, and anybody who thinks otherwise is blind. That doesn't mean Trump is a better choice.

Most politicians are shady yes.

Private emails were deleted. She had no obligation to hand over those, just work related emails.

Of course.
 
Basically someone, somewhere is always saying that an indictment is "imminent,'" but it has yet to pan out. Obviously that could change, but hearing this sort of thing isn't unprecedented at this point either.

UK National press just broke this as 'breaking news'

It doesn't help public perception that they don't verify these stories before publishing them. Their source is FOX news, who's source is unverified.

*facepalm*

Hillary Clinton FBI indictment 'likely'

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...s-donald-trump-us-election-2016-a7395666.html
 
Appearing on Fox News Thursday morning, Baier backed off his initial phrasing that an indictment was “likely,” saying that his response to Hume was “inartfully answered.” His sources, Baier said, were confident about that the strength of their evidence, but reiterated that prosecutors ultimately make the final decision on whether to indict. Baier stood by the rest of his reporting.
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/report-fbi-likely-to-seek-indictment-in-clinton-foundation-investigation/

Hilarious.
 
I am a UK resident. I am just fascinated by what is going on in the US. I can't believe it has come down to these two despicable human beings to be president of the most powerful nation in the world.

You had 350 million people to choose from.

:D

You have May as your Prime Minister.

You shouldn't be throwing stones.
 
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I don't know what you know of UK politics, but we don't vote for the Prime Minister.

The parliamentary system is not that difficult to comprehend. You guys voted for a bunch of MP's that chose a right-wing nationalist PM, and voted directly for Brexit. Your referendum to destroy the British economy makes the slow-moving US system where power is divided and change is deliberately hard to make seem like genius.
 
So undemocratic? Like your fellow UK GAFers like to complain in this US election about the election systems here?

Again. STONES.

It isn't undemocratic. You need to understand it.

We vote for local elections. Every constituency votes for their local Councillor. For example, my town voted a Labour Councillor and a Labour Council to run my town. The next town over was Conservative.

The overall picture is that the most seats won, that party gets to be in Government. The party themselves choose their leader along with the party membership.

I am a Labour Party member and as such voted for Jeremy Corbyn to be leader of the party. There are only 500,000 Labour Party members though, so the majority of people who voted for Labour in the last General Election did not vote for the leader. They were voting for their local Councillors to be in control of their town.

Even though the Conservatives are in government, my town still has a Labour council.
 

Appearing on Fox News Thursday morning, Baier backed off his initial phrasing that an indictment was “likely,” saying that his response to Hume was “inartfully answered.” His sources, Baier said, were confident about that the strength of their evidence, but reiterated that prosecutors ultimately make the final decision on whether to indict. Baier stood by the rest of his reporting.

A dream come true. Hopefully those sources pan out.

Keep fucking that chicken man and eventually your dreams will come truuuuuuuuuue

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It isn't undemocratic. You need to understand it.

We vote for local elections. Every constituency votes for their local Councillor. For example, my town voted a Labour Councillor. The next town over was Conservative.

The overall picture is that the most seats won, that party gets to be in Government. The party themselves choose their leader along with the party membership.

I am a Labour Party member and as such voted for Jeremy Corbyn to be leader of the party. There are only 500,000 Labour Party members though, so the majority of people who voted for Labour in the last General Election did not vote for the leader. They were voting for their local Councillors to be in control of their town.

So the UK elected MPs that voted for May.

And thats suppose to be a good thing? While you throw stones about bad candidates? How is the NHS doing under Tories?
 
UK National press just broke this as 'breaking news'

It doesn't help public perception that they don't verify these stories before publishing them. Their source is FOX news, who's source is unverified.

*facepalm*

Hillary Clinton FBI indictment 'likely'

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...s-donald-trump-us-election-2016-a7395666.html

The UK media outlets that are posted here are no better than the Weekly World News. Like I wouldn't be surprised to see a Batboy article on page 3.
 
A dream come true. Hopefully those sources pan out.

I can see we've reached inverse Puke Funnel Journalism.

You'd think all the numpties with tiny little hard-ons for the White Whale named Clinton would learn. But they never do

Back during the first Clinton presidency, James Carville used to talk about what he called, in his folksy way, The Puke Funnel. This was his way of describing how fanciful tales of Arkansas criminality would begin life as items buried in the wild kingdom of the British tabloids. This enabled American tabloids to quote the British tabloids, which would enable more respectable outfits to "cover the controversy," at which point everyone was off to the races.
 
So the UK elected MPs that voted for May.

And thats suppose to be a good thing? While you throw stones about bad candidates? How is the NHS doing under Tories?

Not good at all. It wasn't doing that well under the last Labour government at the end either.

What is this straw man argument you are putting forward? How does a bad Tory government in the UK have any relevance to the US candidates being awful? Does it make you feel better about the Clinton/Trump charade?
 
I can't hold all these swift boat attacks from both sides.

Yeah, Trump is vastly worse than the Dawg

These folks should be careful. Haven't they read on the Internet that Clinton has a stable of Secret Ninja Death Squads that can get people like Scalia anywhere, anytime?

Does her awfulness know no bounds!?
 
I am a UK resident. I am just fascinated by what is going on in the US. I can't believe it has come down to these two despicable human beings to be president of the most powerful nation in the world.

You had 350 million people to choose from.

:D

As a German it's even more fascinating. But I was already perplexed how Al Gore and John Kerry could lose to Bush. Clinton proposed a no fly zone in Syria, this would be extremely dangerous. Being better than Trump is no accomplishment.

Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children.

Leadership consists of nothing but taking responsibility for everything that goes wrong and giving your subordinates credit for everything that goes well.

Two quotes from Dwight D. Eisenhower. I heard nothing similar during the republican primary debates.
 
I am a UK resident. I am just fascinated by what is going on in the US. I can't believe it has come down to these two despicable human beings to be president of the most powerful nation in the world.

You had 350 million people to choose from.

:D

How can people possibly still believe this. Even if you dislike Hillary, she is one of the most qualified people to be president who has ever run for office. She has an exemplary public service record, has been a politician for three decades and probably knows more about the political machinations of the country and the world than any of the other 349 people who also reside in this nation, barring former actual presidents.

The other one is a potential rapist/sexual harrasser who is a despicable man, applauds his own use of fraud and tax evaision,
and has shady ties to the Russian government.

The scariest thing about this election isnt Trump, but the fact that so many people have been successfully led to believe that someone like Hillary Clinton is even remotely equivalent to him
 
she did her job to the best of her ability, so I take it we shouldn't have defense lawyers then?

People have already asked him if he knows what a public defender is. Nothing penetrates that bubble. The mere fact that he is using this as way to impugn her character speaks volumes.
 
Listen to this: https://youtu.be/cCDzRtZLUkc

The same person on the tape is now in 2016 appalled by the contents of Trump's own tape where he talks about sexually assaulting women.

You don't see the irony?

?? I hear a state assigned defense attorney talking about the details of one of her cases and how absurd she thought the polygraph machine was. How is this some how hypocritical now in 2016??? Please explain, I cannot comprehend how someone could listen to that tape and then somehow use that as an attack on Hillary's character. I really cannot understand your thinking with this because it defies logic.

Sounds like she was a damn good attorney, and used the state's mishandling of evidence to help get better terms. How is that a bad thing that she did her job well as a defense attorney? Should she have purposefully not tried to defend the guy and bombed the case? Would that make you like her? lol.
 
People have already asked him if he knows what a public defender is. Nothing penetrates that bubble. The mere fact that he is using this as way to impugn her character speaks volumes.

I tend to notice that many Trump supporters are very simple thinkers. And I don't necessarily mean that as an insult, perhaps that's just the way some of their minds work. Things either are, or they are not. There is no deeper thought, purpose, or consideration of context. It's probably why alt right rhetoric works so well on them.
 
Listen to this: https://youtu.be/cCDzRtZLUkc

The same person on the tape is now in 2016 appalled by the contents of Trump's own tape where he talks about sexually assaulting women.

You don't see the irony?

Are you familiar with what a defense attorney is? She requested not to be assigned to that case and the judge denied her request.
According to Gibson, Maupin Cummings, the judge in the case, kept a list of attorneys who would represent poor clients. Clinton was on that list and helped run a legal aid clinic at the time.

Taylor was assigned a public defender in the case but Gibson said he quickly “started screaming for a woman attorney” to represent him.

Gibson said Clinton called him shortly after the judge assigned her to the case and said, “I don't want to represent this guy. I just can't stand this. I don't want to get involved. Can you get me off?”

“I told her, ‘Well contact the judge and see what he says about it,’ but I also said don't jump on him and make him mad,” Gibson said. “She contacted the judge and the judge didn't remove her and she stayed on the case.”

Gibson said this was likely the only conversation he had with Clinton and said they have not once been in touch since the case.

Once Clinton was assigned, Gibson said, she had a legal obligation to represent Taylor to the fullest, and she did.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.co...s-clinton-had-no-choice-but-to-defend-rapist/
 
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