Ferguson: Police Kill 18yo Black Male; Fire Gas/Rubber Bullets Into Protesting Crowds

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heliosRAzi said:
Does it really matter, though? Why are SWAT being called to a peaceful protest?
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What matters is people fear mongering and continuing to say "militarization of the police force!"
Every time an image of a SWAT guy shows up on the Internet.

Every decent sized police department have had SWAT teams for 40+ years now for hostage situations, and other such events,
they have always had armored vehicles and military weapons.

The only place you will see actual average police officers armed like this are a couple guards in airports and subway stations.
 
heliosRAzi said:
SWAT personnel will still have their regular uniforms. Even if they didn't, someone should (but they won't) see that having their police show up in military hand-me-downs to a peaceful protest paints a disgusting picture


A large police presence is understandable. A fucking military response is not.
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That's a standard police response to an emergency. SWAT are sworn law enforcement and their response is going to reflect the unit they belong to within the department.
 
TheJLC said:
That's a standard police response to an emergency. SWAT are sworn law enforcement and their response is going to reflect the unit they belong to within the department.
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This current situation does not need SWAT. and snipers aiming at people currently singing.

This isn't standard. No one is armed. Nothing is happening. People are protesting with the Military aiming weapons at them.
 
Razgriz-Specter said:
What matters is people fear mongering and continuing to say "militarization of the police force!"
Every time an image of a SWAT guy shows up.

Every decent sized police department have had SWAT teams for 40+ years now for hostage situations, and other such situations,
they have always had armored vehicles and military weapons.

The only place you will see actual police officers armed like this are a couple guards in airports and subway stations.
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That's bullshit. 2/3rds of the time SWAT teams are used for simple drug possession arrests. If that isn't a militarization of the police force then I don't know what is. SWAT isnt reserved for hostage negoations are nut jobs on killing sprees.
 
FreedomFighter said:
Someone please tell me how to embed tweets please? All I get is code when I try.

TheAnonMessage ‏@TheAnonMessage 44s

BREAKING NEWS: State Senator Maria Chapelle Nadal has been taken into police custody. Teas gassed at earlier protest. #Ferguson
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Tweets aren't embeded. People use Windows snipping tool to create images of tweets.
 
Razgriz-Specter said:
What matters is people fear mongering and continuing to say "militarization of the police force!"
Every time an image of a SWAT guy shows up on the Internet.

Every decent sized police department have had SWAT teams for 40+ years now for hostage situations, and other such events,
they have always had armored vehicles and military weapons.

The only place you will see actual police officers armed like this are a couple guards in airports and subway stations.
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Bro, there are pictures of the SWAT team members aiming their sniper rifles at the protesters who are peacefully excising their rights.

Please tell me how this is ok. I have all night.
 
So uh, can we rule out most of what TheAnonMessage is tweeting?
 
KINGofCRA5H said:
Bro, there are pictures of the SWAT team members aiming their sniper rifles at the protesters who are peacefully excising their rights.

Please tell me how this is ok. I have all night.
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its typical shit.

People aren't allowed to get upset over bullshit, especially if its against minorities. Its all exaggerated, people are complaining for nothing, this is all Standard procedures, to aim sniper rifles at people protesting.

FunkyMunkey said:
I can't believe there's people defending the extremity of the police response. Pathetic.
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I can, its the same people.
 
ISOM said:
Obama is not grand emperor sorry to tell you. He has already instructed the justice department to ferguson. Until these cops start indiscriminently killing the protestors then there is not much else to do.
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I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure he doesn't need to be a grand emperor to make a statement on the problems with police killing black people, racial issues in America, the militarization of the police force, supporting the community's right to protest peacefully without snipers aiming at them, etc.
 
The troops invaded Mickey Ds. Even US multinationals aren't safe... now I bet someone does something about this shit now, lol /s

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It's sad but I already feel like I can see how things will play out for this. Cop was endangered and "In fear for his life", Michael Brown attempted to grab his gun and he had to take action to stop a violent offender. Cops have already had time to tamper with evidence and clear their guy, they don't have to abide by the same rules when they murder someone.
 
the gov't needs to step in, the fact that Fergeson and surrounding forces are showing up looking like they expect war is highlighting the issue of how police are handling this case. i keep hearing this "we need to be ready.." ready for fucking what? what exactly is the police department thinking is going to happen? lets say something does happen, for example a protester throws a rock or bottle at a cop, does this mean the police start opening fire on everyone? like im having as hard time comprehending what this police force is doing. i hope the people of Fergeson are smart enough to be recording everything right now.
 
commedieu said:
This current situation does not need SWAT. and snipers aiming at people currently singing.

This isn't standard.
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Yes it does, Ferguson only has 53 officers including SWAT. SWAT is going to respond and do police duties like all their fellow officers. Local towns with smaller number of officers are going to send their SWAT so they don't have to send their regular cops, other municipalities will do the same.

SWAT as I mentioned is the unit that has all the crowd control equipment too. It's normal for SWAT to show up to any large protest in the US. The difference is that large departments don't have them visible because they have enough man power to keep SWAT a few blocks away.

heliosRAzi said:
Peaceful protests are emergencies now?
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The whole area is under an emergency which is why there are police from all over the State. When the riots began, the whole area was flooded with police. The media is even asking them why they haven't declared martial law yet.
 
KINGofCRA5H said:
Bro, there are pictures of the SWAT team members aiming their sniper rifles at the protesters who are peacefully excising their rights.

Please tell me how this is ok. I have all night.
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I made no comment on this particular situation, im talking SWAT in general.

This situation however is completely fucked up, beyond even the Sniper.
 
The scary shit about a situation like this is one rock or bottle can cause all hell break lose. I'd like for the cops to leave but it's not going to happen two days after a riot.
 
Jon Swaine ✔ @jonswaine

Just saw two reporters in ferguson cuffed and put in cop van
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Jon Swaine ✔ @jonswaine

Two reporters just cuffed and put in cop can outside Ferguson McDonald's where @WesleyLowery said he and @ryanjreilly were working
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Jon Swaine ✔ @jonswaine

Tried to get closer to confirm identities of reporters being arrested. Was marched at by cops in riot gear and threatened with arrest
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Well fuck that.
 
commedieu said:
its typical shit.

People aren't allowed to get upset over bullshit, especially if its against minorities. Its all exaggerated, people are complaining for nothing, this is all Standard procedures, to aim sniper rifles at people protesting.
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I was told in the petition thread earlier that its apparently "dumb" to get worked up over a few mistakes by police officers because there are worse things going on in the world.
 
TheJLC said:
Yes it does, Ferguson only has 53 officers including SWAT. SWAT is going to respond and do police duties like all their fellow officers. Local towns with smaller number of officers are going to send their SWAT so they don't have to send their regular cops, other municipalities will do the same.

SWAT as I mentioned is the unit that has all the crowd control equipment too. It's normal for SWAT to show up to any large protest in the US. The difference is that large departments don't have them visible because they have enough man power to keep SWAT a few blocks away.
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Theres no need for large crowd control of a peaceful protest. Snipers don't need to train guns on people signing and protesting. They have a right to peacefully protest. No one has any guns. The police have blocked the roads, claiming the protesters were. So no one can get to the buses on the other side of the line.

Its a peaceful rally, with a crowd that is in control. You're clearly not watching the stream to see just what exactly is happening. Theres like.. 90-100 folks or so. that have all been organized in front of the gas station that burned down.

Keep ignoring that swat is training weapons on people. Your posts are sad.
 
KINGofCRA5H said:
what the fuck? WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK? What were they gonna do if he didn't show his ID? Since when is photography a crime

FUck this. Getting way to worked up.,
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Guy who tweeted that just got detained

epmode said:
Technically, sure. Try saying that to the wrong cop, though.
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Case in point:

@jonswaine · 5m
Just saw two reporters in ferguson cuffed and put in cop van

‏@jonswaine 3m
Tried to get closer to confirm identities of reporters being arrested. Was marched at by cops in riot gear and threatened with arrest

@jonswaine 4m
Two reporters just cuffed and put in cop can outside Ferguson McDonald's where @WesleyLowery said he and @ryanjreilly were working
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Razgriz-Specter said:
I made no comment on this particular situation, im talking SWAT in general.

This situation however is completely fucked up, beyond even the Sniper.
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SWAT raids are much more common in black neighborhoods than white neighborhoods, according to a new report from the American Civil Liberties Union.

As one example, the ACLU mapped SWAT raids in Cincinnati between 2010 and 2013. The black neighborhoods are sometimes fully covered in red dots, while some white neighborhoods have no dots at all:

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The ACLU found that 62 percent of SWAT raids are used for drug searches, and drug-related SWAT deployments primarily impacted people of color. Combined, the statistics suggest enforcement in the war on drugs hits black people — and their neighborhoods — the hardest.
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Yup, police use SWAT in a totally legitimate and proper manner and totally does not militarize standard police work.

http://www.vox.com/2014/7/1/5850830/war-on-drugs-racist-minorities/in/5452637
 
commedieu said:
Theres no need for large crowd control of a peaceful protest. Snipers don't need to train guns on people signing and protesting. They have a right to peacefully protest. No one has any guns. The police have blocked the roads, claiming the protesters were. So no one can get to the buses on the other side of the line.

Its a peaceful rally, with a crowd that is in control. You're clearly not watching the stream to see just what exactly is happening.

Keep ignoring that swat is training weapons on people. Your posts are sad.
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I'm not ignoring that. I'm not understanding why they are pushing protestors away and don't condone the way they are treating protestors. I have never said that it's okay for them to train sniper rifles at protestors or other weapons.

All I have mentioned is the SWAT response. Crowd control gear that swat has will always be there whether or not the protest is peaceful. Crowd control gear is not only tear gas and rubber bullets. It includes firefighting equipment, speakers, lights, cameras, communications gear, and more things that are used by police and can also be used to disperse a crowd.
 
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