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FFXI beta at Xbox 360 launch
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cyberheater
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I'd like to think this will be fantastic but fear a straight port.
Doom_Bringer
Banned
Port of the PC version not the PS2. It looks good IMO.
Khalid-S said:
The same way people who never bought COP can play with people who have the expansion.
PC/PS2 owners just wouldn't have access to any of the new content unless they released it for those platforms.
If they upgraded the graphics at all, it wouldn't affect anything. It'd be just like when they upgrade EQ1's graphics - it's only displayed on your system.
...And the PC version is a straight port of the PS2 original.Doom_Bringer said:
Each version of the game uses the PS2 original's assets. The only perks you'll get with the PC & 360 releases will be support for higher resolutions (great thing, considering the HUD on PS2 can sometimes take up 3/4 of the screen), better anti-aliasing, and a somewhat smoother framerate (though still locked at 30fps, and still a stutter-fest in Jeuno). That's it.
Oni Link 666
Member
With games that aren't a pain in the ass and are actually fun to play like WOW around, why would anyone want to play FFXI? Wait for PSU or for Blizzard to port WOW to the consoles or something. Forget about FFXI.
Oni Link 666
Member
Waiting for PSU you mean? I'm already playing WOW and I am having fun with it.
Oni Link 666 said:
WoW is going to succeed in a different way than FFXI - FFXI has high player retention, WoW will have high turnover but also have high numbers of newbies. Being level 75 in FFXI, especially in multiple jobs, MEANS SOMETHING. Being level 60 in WoW means you're a Blizzard kid.
Kabuki Waq
Member
daegan said:
yea it means something alright. :lol
Oni Link 666
Member
Yeah, it means you have no social life, don't play any other games, and have a high threshold of pain. I am no Blizzard fanboy. In fact, WOW is the first Blizzard game I've ever played. WOW is just better than FFXI in every way. IMO of course.
Scott said:
Untrue. PS2 and PC animations differ in a lot of ways. Many other subtle differences as well beyond upgrading textures, etc. Animations for weapon skills, effects, and so on. Not always improved either.
At any rate, lets not have this thread turn into another bash fest that goes around and around making everyone look stupid shall we?
Cuz Xbox 360 is essentially another platform. There's all sorts of possible, strange timing issue for multiplatform games that could occur just because it's running on a different platform. Being a massive multilplayer game just worsen the fact. They are being cautious, nothong wrong with it.
There is one thing to consider that hasn't been mentioned yet, though.
If Square does the cheap thing, and continues to support FFXI for years instead of making a new MMORPG (or indeed while they make a new MMORPG), there might be a point where PS2 users dwindle so much that they only need to provide new content to PC and 360. They also said that they're not completely against improving graphics for 360 (better textures, models and effects), but they need to bring it into their patch cycle carefully and it would be a long time in the future.
If Square does the cheap thing, and continues to support FFXI for years instead of making a new MMORPG (or indeed while they make a new MMORPG), there might be a point where PS2 users dwindle so much that they only need to provide new content to PC and 360. They also said that they're not completely against improving graphics for 360 (better textures, models and effects), but they need to bring it into their patch cycle carefully and it would be a long time in the future.
Spiritreaver
Member
Can you cite some examples? I'm not trying to disprove you at all, I've just never seen the PS2 version myself, so I'm curious.Kintaro said:
EDIT: That and I also like seeing FFXI mumbo jumbo on the forums. "I love BRDs, Ballads and the Minuet/Madrigal songs are so great. I really prefer them in a PT over RDM when there's a NIN. Their versatility and efficiency is second to none." Okay I don't actually agree with that, I just made it up on the spot so don't shoot me for it. Though I am a BRD so my example does come out a tad biased.
:lolDarthWufei said:Can you cite some examples? I'm not trying to disprove you at all, I've just never seen the PS2 version myself, so I'm curious.
EDIT: That and I also like seeing FFXI mumbo jumbo on the forums. "I love BRDs, Ballads and the Minuet/Madrigal songs are so great. I really prefer them in a PT over RDM when there's a NIN. Their versatility and efficiency is second to none." Okay I don't actually agree with that, I just made it up on the spot so don't shoot me for it. Though I am a BRD so my example does come out a tad biased.
The animation for Meditate for one. Or actually, the effects shown when meditate is used. A lot of the skillchain colors/animations are subtly different too. It's not huge, just subtle things. People who my different linkshells notice differences as well.
I'm in the middle of my second character right now, getting all possible melee subjobs done before concentrating on main jobs to focus on... I am so fucking tired of lowbie lvls and players... ><
Spiritreaver
Member
Ah, well that's interesting. Is there really any reason for that?Kintaro said:
Oh I hear you, I've totally quit on leveling SMN for the time being as I'm at Qufim and I just don't feel up for it. I want to level RDM as well, but the lovely 14 leaves me stuck. I don't feel like walking to Valkurm, parties in Maze take forever to get going now (Why's it so dead anyway, it used to be a prime leveling spot for Windurstians), and I really just don't want to deal with it entirely.
Actually I've been stuck playing nothing but Ballista. Once you hit 60 it's really worth it, even as BRD. Nothing better than sleeping 10-12 enemies just so your team can get the first hit, or to save a gang bang on a teammate.
Jonnyram said:RDM > BRD
I honestly don't like grouping them, they're really for two different party set ups entirely. Ever time I end up in a party with a PLD I always leave wishing I was a RDM, but usually that's not the case. But anyways, they're so vastly different I truly wouldn't want to rate them. It all depends on the situation, set up, and overall goal. Though I'm sorry to turn my response into something more serious. I know you were just joking around.
Spiritreaver
Member
Wow, I didn't think people were serious. Are you rating them from a party member stand point or an overall class standpoint? I'm REALLY hoping for the latter.Rorschach said:
Yeah, player skill is the important thing in the end. I know (knew) lots of bards that used to watch the telly when they were playing, and were even proud of the fact! RDMs are busy as fuck usually (after lv 41), so there is a little resentment... especially when BRD and RDM let off their dispel shit at the same time 
Spiritreaver
Member
Oh okay, then I retain my original position. You had me scared there for a moment.Rorschach said:From a biased RDM standpoint.
I'm not a stickler for maintaining status quo party lineups, anyway.
Then again I think it was the drama queen inside my little BRD heart that got fed up.EDIT: I would really like to meet the BRD that watches television while partying. They really should be as busy, if not more so, than any RDM. The only problem BRDs have though is the job can be far more monotonous than any of the other jobs. Little ever changes unless there's a link, for that I cherish links really, due to how rare they occur, it's quite a nice change of pace. :lol
Those aren't intentional differences. It's just a result of different rendering technique on PC and PS2. There're a lot of differences when it comes to like color and special effects because of the differences in hardware rendering things - I have noticed it in the environment as well as things you mentioned. I wouldn't count those as something SE intentionally did to "improve" PC version.
Brd has to run around a bit more than Rdm; Rdm has to remember refresh order and press that god damn refresh button every 2 min 30 seconds or read the log and make sure you don't miss it. Either job, you have to pay attention or xp will suffer. But really it doesn't stop people from watching TV while playing and you can tell.
RuGalz said:Those aren't intentional differences. It's just a result of different rendering technique on PC and PS2. There're a lot of differences when it comes to like color and special effects because of the differences in hardware rendering things - I have noticed it in the environment as well as things you mentioned. I wouldn't count those as something SE intentionally did to "improve" PC version.
I never said it was something intentional. =) Just said it was there. =D
In case anyone was wondering about this (and hoping it's not common knowladge already ) the 360 version of FFXI will somehow "bypass" Xbox Live and support PlayOnline. The "bypass" part is my guess, but the full PlayOnline support was confirmed to me by Sage Sundi (or was him Hiromichi Tanaka? Damn, mixed the business cards )
Anyway, it was this guy
(yep, thats FFXI running on 360 on the BG)
) the 360 version of FFXI will somehow "bypass" Xbox Live and support PlayOnline. The "bypass" part is my guess, but the full PlayOnline support was confirmed to me by Sage Sundi (or was him Hiromichi Tanaka? Damn, mixed the business cards )Anyway, it was this guy
(yep, thats FFXI running on 360 on the BG)
SpiderJerusalem
Banned
Brd get to pull too. :lol
In case anyone was wondering about this (and hoping it's not common knowladge already
Wada said at the MS press conference that they would be modifying PlayOnline to work with Xbox Live and not "bypassing" anything.
Spiritreaver
Member
Ugh, I actually tried a manaburn party once, in freaking Onzozo of all places, fighting Toramas of course. Pulling there is NOT fun. Let's just say I had to quit quite early. Then again it was also my first manaburn party, and first time pulling as BRD, and the place was overcamped (4-5 parties). :lol Not a fun experience.SpiderJerusalem said:
arhra
Member
Those goddamn acronyms are gonna fuck me in the ass if i ever get around to playing FFXI*. I can't help reading BRD as Blackrock Depths >_<
* very likely if it's the first MMO to hit 360, and since i'll have a pc capable of running it soon, i might well decide to get into it before then... although i suspect juggling it with WoW would be bad for both my mental health and my wallet.
* very likely if it's the first MMO to hit 360, and since i'll have a pc capable of running it soon, i might well decide to get into it before then... although i suspect juggling it with WoW would be bad for both my mental health and my wallet.