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Fighting Games Weekly | 4/20-26 | Beowulf Wrasslin', Mewtwo Smashin', Netkode Krashin

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enzo_gt

tagged by Blackace
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Week of April 20th to the 26th, 2015.

Fighting Games Weekly is the weekly discussion thread for all things fighting games. News, events, streams, videos, players, drama, everything fighting game related.

Don't know what to watch right now? Check the FGCPros Twitch Group or Jaxel's Stream Viewer. If you want to watch multiple streams at once, you can use Jaxel's customizable multiviewer as well. If you are looking to see what events are coming up past this week, check out the FGC Event Calendar that our own Malice215 put together.

New to FGC-GAF is the FGC-GAF Index which lists the fighting games GAFers plays as a neat reference with some rough statistics to boot. To add yourself to the index, quote this post and use the survey link below. Please remember to save/bookmark the "Edit your response" link so you can edit your responses if/when you buy a game already on the list or a new game that releases in the future.


Last week's thread. An archive of previous FGW threads is available here.​


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Last year, GAFer Shouta helped organize donations from various FGC-GAF members to send fellow member QisTopTier to EVO. Q suffers from Facioscapulohumeral Muscular Dystrophy, but has always wanted to go to EVO and we're looking to double up this year and send him to EVO again!

If you want to help out, you can check out the details and pledge on this spreadsheet.
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Northwest Majors 7 [ Friday ] [ 9PM EDT | 6PM PDT ]
  • Washington's evergrowing major returns once again, bringing considerable international talent in tow.
  • Capcom Pro Tour Ranking Event
  • This event continues through Sunday.
  • More information is available here.
Last Man Standing [ Saturday ] [ 1PM EDT | 10AM PDT ]
Bar Battles X [ Saturday ] [ 3PM EDT | 12PM PDT ]
Double Elimination [ Saturday ] [ 10AM Korea | 9PM EDT Friday | 6PM PDT Friday ]
Final Smash Attack [ Sunday ] [ 12PM EDT | 9AM PDT ]


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Every week, FGW will spotlight one GAFer to get a better picture of their history with fighting games, their preferences, and much more. Check back next week when the FGW Spotlight returns!
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Super Desperation Radio [ 9:30PM EDT | 6:30 PDT ]
  • Hellpockets and various other members of the KoF community discuss KoF and happenings in the FGC.
Marvel Mondays [ 10PM EDT | 7PM PDT ]
  • Out of the ashes of The BOX Arena, comes the San Diego FGC's newest organized weekly for UMvC3.
UltraChenTV: First Attack & Lv3 Focus [ 11:30PM EDT | 8:30PM PDT ]
  • Weekly FGC show dedicated to match analysis, teaching, commentary, news, debates, and more! Hosted by UltraDavid and James Chen.


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Kachitagari TV (JP) [ 9PM JST | 8AM EDT | 5AM PDT ]
  • Bon-chan, Kazunoko and Fuudo's new show, focusing primarily on SSFIV AE ranked matches but is branching off into other games as well.
Capcom UK presents WinnerStaysOn Sessions [ 8PM GMT | 3PM EDT | 12PM PDT ]
  • Logan Sama, organiser of the old WSO weeklys in London, invites some of London's finest to Capcom UK HQ for first to 5 sets in USF4.
NYC VF [ 8PM EDT | 5PM PDT ]
  • NYC VF crew presents VF5:FS tournaments casuals out of The Next Level arcade in Brooklyn.
The Break Weekly [ 8PM EDT | 5PM PDT ]
  • New Jersey's largest weekly featuring UMvC3 and Injustice.
The On Blast Show [ 10PM EDT | 7PM PDT ]
  • JamessMK & DarKNaTaS host a raw and uncut weekly talk show discussing events in the FGC with various FGC personalities.
UltraChenTV: The Tuesday Show [ 11:30PM EDT | 8:30PM PDT ]
  • Weekly FGC show dedicated to match analysis, teaching, commentary, news, debates, and more! Hosted by UltraDavid and James Chen.
The Show That Sucks [ 1AM EDT (following day) | 10PM PDT ]
  • iPlaywinner hosts a weekly talk show featuring alpha stream monsters Harrison and Honzo Gonzo.


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Game Spot Versus KoF Casuals (JP) [ 7PM JST | 6AM EDT | 3AM PDT ]
  • KoF 1998UM, KoF 2002UM and KoF XIII C action from Japan.
TOPANGA TV (JP) [ 9PM JST | 8AM EDT | 5AM PDT ]
  • A weekly show featuring Mago, Tokido, and Momochi. They go over the tournaments they will participate and have participated in overseas and in Japan, as well as the general news in SF. For long periods of the year, there is a student-teacher session involving one of the 3 Topanga members taking a player under their wing and teaching them how to play SF. The show features rank matches (sometimes random char. matches) and ends with a 8 man online tournament featuring players around 4.5kpp such as Poongko, Inco, and more.
Next Level Battle Circuit [ 8PM EDT | 4PM PDT ]
  • NYC's biggest weekly at The Next Level Arcade in Brooklyn featuring SSFIV AE, UMvC3 and TTT2. If the Teamsp00ky link is not working, it is likely on the backup stream on Arturo's channel.
Wednesday Night Fights [ 12AM EDT (following day) | 9PM PDT ] [ON HIATUS]


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HBTB Live [ 8PM EDT | 5PM PDT ]
  • Hold Back To Block hosts a weekly roundtable discussion of various happenings in the FGC.
Melee It On Me [ 9PM EDT | 6PM PDT ]
  • A bi-weekly Smash podcast discussing recent events, news and issues in the Smash community, hosted by Scar, Prog, Cactuar and Sheridan.
Ghost Battle Series [ 9PM CST | 10PM EDT | 7PM PDT ]
  • Galloping Ghost Arcade presents an Injustice weekly out of Chicago.
The Fray [ 10PM EDT | 7PM PDT ]
  • A weekly FGC talk show hosted by iPlaywinner, featuring a varying, ensemble cast of prominent members of the fighting game community.
ATP LIVE! [ 11PM EDT | 8PM PDT ]
  • Aris' new weekly show, discussing whatever he wants to! The format resembles old ATP podcasts.
The Runback [ 12AM EDT (following day) | 9PM PDT ] [ON HIATUS]
  • The UMvC3 and KoF XIII branch of Wednesday Night Fights also hosted at Super Arcade in Walnut, California.


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The Smash Break Bi-Weekly [ 6PM EDT | 3PM PDT ]
  • The Break hosts a new Melee bi-weekly to replace Rokunaya Bi-Weeklies which are ending.
Thank God It's Team Stickbug [ 7PM EDT | 4PM PDT ]
  • Arturo streams a BlazBlue and Guilty Gear bi-weekly out of Next Level arcade in Brooklyn.
KaoTV! (JP) [ 11PM JST | 10AM EDT | 7AM PDT ]
SALTY! [ 11PM EDT | 8PM PDT ]
  • A bi-weekly Skullgirls event hosted by members of the Skullgirls development team, often featuring preview builds of the game.


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Rebel Up [ 7PM EDT | 4PM PDT ]
  • Super Arcade's anime bi-weekly, featuring GG, BB, P4A, SG, Gundam and older anime games as well.


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GGPO VanBats [ 4PM EDT | 1PM PDT ]
  • Weekly GGPO Vampire Savior ranbats streamed by GAFer Rotanibor.
Super Smash Sundays [ 4PM EDT | 1PM PDT ] [ON HIATUS]
  • SuperDojo and Team OXY partner up to create a new weekly for the SoCal Melee community, featuring doubles and singles.


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On GAF we have various members that stream fighting games from time to time too. If you would like to add your channel to this thread, send me a PM.

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Often, some fighting games can seem intimidating to players new and old. Below are a bunch of resources that may be of aid to new players, or handy as references.
  • Learn How To Play Fighting Games Free eBook from Shoryuken is a fantastic primer for new players to the genre.
  • Footsies Handbook is a guide to the potentially elusive, but integral part of doing well in any fighting game.
  • NeoGAF's Arcade Stick Thread is the place to go for questions about anything arcade stick-related.
  • Step Up Your Game is an editorial series by Justin Wong that covers a multitude of topics, notably focusing on strengthening your mental game and playing smarter instead of harder.
  • Tips for first time competitors will help you straighten out those nerves and expectations when you head out to your first tournament.
  • Domination 101 is almost a cult classic article in the FGC, which has Seth Killian telling us how he really feels about the idea of "cheapness" in fighting games.
  • Team-building Guide by our very own Karsticles, which helps make it easier to approach team-building in MvC games, and games with similar synergistic elements.
For a list of NeoGAF OTs for specific fighting games, as well as a list of non-GAF fighting game communities that may be of interest, check out the FGW Archive where these resources can be found on separate sheets at the bottom.
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If you have any suggestions for the OP, please do not hesitate to post in this thread or (preferably) PM me to let me know.
 
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BakedYams

Slayer of Combofiends
what the hell was going through the TO's mind when naming Zero's and M2K's team? I understand the people in the melee community are very close to each other and joke around but this isn't a joke. straight up appalling.
 
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Skilletor

Member
I've owned Skullgirls since launch, but haven't put much time into it because I absolutely hate the artstyle.

It feels really good. Don't think I'll ever be able to play it, but feels super solid.

Wish I liked the art. :/

Beowulf is fucking dope, lol.
 
Kalamari

Kalamari

Member
Gamers against bad netcode (GABN) needs to be a thing, in order to raise awareness of bad netcode and the saltiness it causes.
 
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Tripon

Member
BakedYams said:
what the hell was going through the TO's mind when naming Zero's and M2K's team? I understand the people in the melee community are very close to each other and joke around but this isn't a joke. straight up appalling.
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It was the Smash 4 TO. And he wasn't thinking.
 
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Tripon

Member
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SloaneRisette

Member
Dlent said:
Every time a new SG character comes out, I think I'm going to finally learn to play it. I never do.
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Same :(

Eliza and Beowulf were the two characters I were backing towards the end of the voting, too.

SolarKnight said:
Remember to check what the available sets will be

http://smashboards.com/threads/official-custom-moveset-project-summer-2015-edition-evo-sets.395721/
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Thanks! I saw this before but ended up exiting out of the tab. Gonna have to bookmark this.
 
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Cosmo Clock 21

Banned
Skilletor said:
I've owned Skullgirls since launch, but haven't put much time into it because I absolutely hate the artstyle.

It feels really good. Don't think I'll ever be able to play it, but feels super solid.

Wish I liked the art. :/

Beowulf is fucking dope, lol.
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I still cringe when I see a lot of the stuff in Skullgirls (like Cerebella's command grab super) but I fought through the pain
 
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gutabo

Member
Kimosabae said:
Thanks, I'll look into getting these in tomorrow. I ended up giving up. Even when my execution feels perfect, the third rep drops. Shit makes no sense.
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Whether is pad or stick the trick is in the left hand. You have to press forward + kick and then immediately afterwards press back. I can't stress this enough. Then after getting the charge there are two other critical timings: to QUICKLY press forward + P + H (so you get as much charge as possible before pressing forward), in the same frame if possible , and then to wait 15 frames to do again forward + K and then hold back AGAIN. I can't tell you how important the very fast forward to back and back to forward movements are. Remember you have a 3 frames window for error. Also the more hits you get, the harder it is to do because the opponent recovers faster. So if you're getting the 3rd rep to miss, my best guess is that it's a combination of not doing the HFB as soon as possible and not doing the 6K afterwards as early as possible.

I'm going to use my "basic 6K loop" as an example. The first hit is the sweep, the second hit, the first 6K is VERY easy to cancel early because you have the roman cancel slowdown to get the charge. The second 6K is the only true "6K loop" cancel because you have no buffer, no roman cancel nor other charge trick to make it easier so it's the hardest part of the combo. The 2S is easier to link because it's 2 frames faster than a 6K and getting the third 6K to connect is a joke because it's a chain combo. You can do it a bit early and you'll get some buffering time to get the charge so it's easier than a regular loop. And the fourth 6K is even easier because you're not worried about doing the forward into back because you're cancelling it into Heat Knuckle.

So as basic practice I would say you can do sweep into RC into 6K xx HFB, 2S into 6K xx HFB, 5H xx Heat Knuckle xx Heat Extend(works on all characters). Once you get that combo going you can do sweep into RC into 6K xx HFB, 2S into 6K xx HFB, 2S into 6K xx HFB, 2H xx Heavenly Potemkin Buster(character specific, try it on Sol or Ky), you have to do the cancels on this one a bit faster tho. Then after you can do those with your eyes closed you can start adding true "6K loop" cancels like with the "basic 6K loop" combo above(the one with the video link), first one 6K after the "easy charge because of the RC" first 6K, then two and so on. That's why I practiced doing 6K into HFB into 6K into HFB from one corner of the screen to the other corner and back again: to get the optimal charge time(and press back very fast after the 6Ks) and to get down the optimal timing for a 6K after the HFB.

PS: For the "dumb corner combo"(which is character specific) there's a catch: you have to cancel the first 6K LATE so you get more forward movement so the second 6K(after the second 2S) reaches the opponent in time. Finally, RIP your hands.
 
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TheOGB

Banned
Beowulf is a ton of fun, his grab mode is straight shenanigans. I'm finally starting to get the hang of Eliza's combos/timing, but I'm still pitifully clueless in the neutral game.
 
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CountBlack

Member
Played the legend Eric Hai ft 3 on Saturday..


nobody told me he was this nice. I remember he beat Tokido in pools at Evo some year.

Didn't get to play JS Master tho.


2015 and we still can't get fighting games with decent netcode smh. Especially with how naturally shitty slow the game feels.. nah breh
 
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SolarPowered

Member
Just finished going 1-30 against Duckator. Sometimes it is good to know your place in the world.

In the trash where Beowulf snapped me to
Cosmo Clock 21 said:
I still cringe when I see a lot of the stuff in Skullgirls (like Cerebella's command grab super) but I fought through the pain
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This is why you DP cancel it with Kamina inspired awesomeness.
 
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SolarPowered

Member
It's okay, guys. MJ is gonna go down to a class II drug soon. They can fuck our shit up, but not as bad as before (don't get caught by the cops, though :X).
TheOGB said:
Beowulf is a ton of fun, his grab mode is straight shenanigans. I'm finally starting to get the hang of Eliza's combos/timing, but I'm still pitifully clueless in the neutral game.
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Did you never play Jon Talbain? When in doubt, Wulf Blitzer up in that bitch. You can literally control the direction he flies in.
 
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NCR Redslayer

NeoGAF's Vegeta
TheOGB said:
Beowulf is a ton of fun, his grab mode is straight shenanigans. I'm finally starting to get the hang of Eliza's combos/timing, but I'm still pitifully clueless in the neutral game.
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Yet so far I think he has some very weak defense. Its a feast or feed game for him.
 
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joe2187

Banned
TheOGB said:
Beowulf is a ton of fun, his grab mode is straight shenanigans. I'm finally starting to get the hang of Eliza's combos/timing, but I'm still pitifully clueless in the neutral game.
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He's alot of fun, I love that his taunt is tied to his hype mechanic. Im just clueless on doing advanced stuff with him when it comes to chair on the ground.
 
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pizzacat

Banned
SolarPowered said:
Anyone who can share a stage with Annie has to be the cream of the crop.
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It's the little things that make me love SG, how whenever he hits hard af he asks the other character if they're all right like in a wrestling match.




Pls I need the ps4 release already
 
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