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enzo_gt said:
That's more testing netcode, reception etc. than a solution for balancing really. FPS' have been doing this for a long time, and they take into account balance issues, but it's entirely different when you're dealing with balancing something that can be so technical under conditions that do not mimic those your trying to balance for first and foremost. Testing for netcode and stuff is important too though, because it gives JP devs a better idea on what works and doesn't work elsewhere in the world.

Also Dahbomb your expectations for balancing are completely unrealistic.


Yeah balance means nothing to me anymore. Like I've said before, whether a game is honest or not usually has no indication of it's quality to me.
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Balance is important- if the char I want to play can't compete, it's a massive turnoff. It's driven me away from VF at times (I play the worst char in that game, he's competitive until super-high level, then he has to rely on gimmickry, but he was broken and OP in the previous revision)

Plenty of games this gen have good balance- VF (despite my gripe, it's just my char), Tekken 6, Skullgirls now, KOFXIII,. Not all fighters, but enough. Even the SF4 games have acceptable balance.

My expectations for balancing is that they'll fix it over time. I felt NRS had the right idea with MK, but they ruffled a lot of feathers because folks weren't used to PC-style balancing and some FG folks believe any nerf=bad like it's a religion.
 
The only character I am interested in playing in Injustice is Batman. He's the new trenchcoat character. In fact I bet Injustice is going to be run be cape characters.
 
enzo_gt said:
Netherrealm studios hires people knowledgeable about fighting games, talks balance between hardcore and accessibility.
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That's great. I'm still concerned about the cutscenes and shit.

A Pretty Panda said:
Capcom isn't a good company unless they give me exactly what I want. Like a baby!
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This an accurate depiction of NeoGAF.

QisTopTier said:
Things involving NTR tend to have stuff broken, such as will. So yes.
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Damn.


What does "PC-style balancing" mean?
 
Fgc will complain when PC style patching is the norm, but it needs to happen. Hopefully Sony and ms make it easy next gen. I think they want that f2p pie as well, so here's hoping.
 
If fighting games were more prevalent on PC, maybe we could see it. Hopefully devs aren't charged out the nose for patches and can submit patches as need be, and maybe we could see this in the future, otherwise it would only really be a thing on Steam.
 
ThatCrazyGuy said:
Fgc will complain when PC style patching is the norm, but it needs to happen. Hopefully Sony and ms make it easy next gen. I think they want that f2p pie as well, so here's hoping.
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Hopefully they'll do it seasonally or something. That way they give the competitive scene a chance to brace for impact.
 
ThatCrazyGuy said:
Fgc will complain when PC style patching is the norm, but it needs to happen. Hopefully Sony and ms make it easy next gen. I think they want that f2p pie as well, so here's hoping.
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From the looks of it, both of them are very well aware of the F2P model and they are making strides for it to happen, we just got to be afraid of the behind the scenes economics and politics before we can be sure it'll be good for us gamers like it's been on PC.

Frequent patching needs to happen for bug fixing purposes alone. Additionally, devs need to understand prolongued support of your game is more crucial than ever. Yeah lots of devs may throw in some DLC thong customization item in a predetermined release or unlock schedule, but the devs that are invested in the community and are actively working with the community to expand and hone gameplay are the ones that always get the most praise and support from their customers in return.

offcast said:
Any chance Enzo can add the Final Strike event this friday to the OP? http://www.levelup-series.com/final-strike-presented-by-srk/

We are opening with a 5v5 UCI Vs. TRB. Then into AE/UMC3 singles with a pot bonus. I'll be handling the stream and I'm hoping to get Ultradavid and Tasty Steve locked down for UMVC3 commentary.
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Will do in the morning.
 
offcast said:
Any chance Enzo can add the Final Strike event this friday to the OP? http://www.levelup-series.com/final-strike-presented-by-srk/

We are opening with a 5v5 UCI Vs. TRB. Then into AE/UMC3 singles with a pot bonus. I'll be handling the stream and I'm hoping to get Ultradavid and Tasty Steve locked down for UMVC3 commentary.
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As of 3 minutes ago, you have to pay the "Any time streamers ask to add something to the OP" fee.

GAF Tekken lobby. Our one and only proud GAF player Sayah is playing.

http://www.twitch.tv/kadeybaybe/new
 
Kadey said:
As of 3 minutes ago, you have to pay the "Any time streamers ask to add something to the OP" fee.
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Don't worry, St. Maarten is paying the bills, remember?

Got a nice advance for the thread before last week's thread, gonna hold me down for a while. Even got a little extra cash to blow on some DLC gems and Justin Timberlake CDs.
 
Slamtastic said:
No, (mostly) each character has their own trait.

Batman - Summon/use robot bats
Flash - Slow time
Wonder Woman/Nightwing - Stance change
Catwoman - Use combo that uses stored hits from regular attacks
Cyborg - Healing
Luthor/Aquaman(?) - Shield
Superman/Bane/Shazam(?)/Green Lantern(?)/Raven(?) - Powered up state, may involve damage change or other move property changes
Joker(?)/Harley(?) - Something to do with random items, I think
Green Arrow - Change/use elemental arrows
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Give Flash a Zoom/Classic Reverse Flash outfit and I'll prob. start yelling ZA WARUDO whenever he slows time.
 
MK was never patched as much as people said. It was mostly a bunch of whiners and exaggerators. No one truly had to "relearn their character" or whatever.
 
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@EMP_TriForce_GM @ThatMikeRossGuy Let's talk Monday. It went through. Don't ask what either. Just know you may have to live in New York.

‏@ThatMikeRossGuy @EMP_TriForce_GM lol alright
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Does this mean what I think it means? I don't read neogaf that often these days, so I'm out of the loop.
 
jbug617 said:
They don't like the constant change without the patch notes.
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But most PC games that have frequent patches come with notes.

I would think the FGC is against constant updates because, well, it's constant.

EDIT: Look at this thread that reaffirms NorCal dominance. 8-)
i think i just used my allotted "norcal > all" for the week
 
Shaheed79 said:
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Does this mean what I think it means? I don't read neogaf that often these days, so I'm out of the loop.
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its gonna happen.
 
smurfx said:
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its gonna happen.
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Lol the Mike and Yipes pictures could actually fool you at a glance. I'm not going to hate on anyone willing to pour money into the FGC though. These guys deserve to have something of value like some of the top Japanese players have. I wish them the best.
 
Sfxtk animations are fine I think, miles better than mk9/injustice, IMO.

Its the color pallete and/or filters are whatever they are using that is a slight on sfxtk.
 
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