Support NeoGAF

[DunpealD]

I think Fuerte got a lot better, but I wouldn't go that far. He's mid tier now IMO. I think part of the reason he won is because he ran into the right match ups. You have Evil Ryu and Sagat who are straight forward characters that can't rush down Fuerte and maul him. I think he was fortunate not to run into other characters like Kazunoko's Yun or Pugera's Ibuki. I don't know his good or bad match ups, I just feel like those two that are more mobile and are vortex/rushdown characters would have given him a much harder time. Which is why I believe Inco's Rufus was Pepe's hardest match up in Top 8 because he could more easily chase him down.

You mean like meeting Fuudo, Kazunoko and Tokido at Topanga Charity Cup 4?

Fun fact: EX Pugera was Pepedays teammate there. If you take a look at the match before Pepedays you can see Pugera play against Fuudo.

Obviously it's only one match so there is not that much take from. It's nice to see some unfamiliar faces to come out of the woodwork though.

 

[SquirrelSoup]

http://youtu.be/DaHoP0tiHW4

Akira looks surprisingly cool and rather faithful in DBFC.

 

[Laconic]

Having lots of characters increases the odds of Hondas and Dee Jays popping up, but it doesn't make it a bad thing if everyone is viable.

The ideal roster size for a 1vs1 game is somewhere between 12 and 18

I'd be willing to go as high as 25, after iteration, and agree with you 100%.

Less is more.

 

[Coffeeling]

Having lots of characters increases the odds of Hondas and Dee Jays popping up, but it doesn't make it a bad thing if everyone is viable.

The ideal roster size for a 1vs1 game is somewhere between 12 and 18

It's a bad thing if the viable character is a cancer like Elf is.

As far as roster size goes, a lot of that depends on the game IMO. Something like SF4 or GG is really matchup-heavy and you have to know a lot of esoterica to be able to play truly well. Contrast KOF13 where the gameplay is much more generalized - a common skeleton + character spice, if you will, instead of the character matchup determining most of the gameplay. KOF13 design can handle a larger cast IMO. A 40-character GG would probably just make me quit.

 

[sixteen-bit]

http://youtu.be/DaHoP0tiHW4

Akira looks surprisingly cool and rather faithful in DBFC.

Akira is best waifu

 

[Laconic]

It's a bad thing if the viable character is a cancer like Elf is.

As far as roster size goes, a lot of that depends on the game IMO. Something like SF4 or GG is really matchup-heavy and you have to know a lot of esoterica to be able to play truly well. Contrast KOF13 where the gameplay is much more generalized - a common skeleton + character spice, if you will, instead of the character matchup determining most of the gameplay. KOF13 design can handle a larger cast IMO. A 40-character GG would probably just make me quit.

A successfully executed 40-character GG would be damned hard to even achieve conceptually.

That'd entail what - at least 10 more characters that would need unique styles, considering that unique play for each individual character is a principle defining characteristic of what it means to be a GG game.

 

[rrc1594]

KI Season 2 starts this week hell yeah!

 

[~Devil Trigger~]

http://youtu.be/DaHoP0tiHW4

Akira looks surprisingly cool and rather faithful in DBFC.

:O

when did this happen

 

[RockTurtle]

IMO, not if there's a lot of characters.

so you are of the opinion that if everyone is special, no one is school of fighting game thought?

i.e. you need your OP characters here and there just to set the litmus test for what is amazing play.

 

[sixteen-bit]

:O

when did this happen

Akira was always the endboss in the game. On August 30th he was announced to be a playable character in the home versions.

 

[BumblebeeCody]

http://youtu.be/DaHoP0tiHW4

Akira looks surprisingly cool and rather faithful in DBFC.

That looks pretty cool. Love UNiB so I'll probably end up getting this.

KI Season 2 starts this week hell yeah!

Update today.
TJ Combo tomorrow

 

[Tizoc]

LOTS of Garou footage this week, also some DoA 5~

1 Hour of Ehrgeiz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt48sEdsgV4&list=UUCfnriDcUslGMUMX4Ctkyjg

6 hours of Garou MotW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGBxLCyB6aQ&list=UUkXtcsyQ6g8coNrclPvt29w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0nstvCa7eY&list=UUkXtcsyQ6g8coNrclPvt29w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1blP_GCH9vo&list=UUCfnriDcUslGMUMX4Ctkyjg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9b1W4oIZOBI&list=UUCfnriDcUslGMUMX4Ctkyjg

4+ Hours of Daemon Bride
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6gZjmf3JV4&list=UUCfnriDcUslGMUMX4Ctkyjg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTdW9bQc9_8&list=UUCfnriDcUslGMUMX4Ctkyjg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJOKri6MkAs&list=UUCfnriDcUslGMUMX4Ctkyjg

1 Hour of Sengoku Hime
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_DB9w0q5UM&list=UUkXtcsyQ6g8coNrclPvt29w

2 Hours of Guilty Gear Xrd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL8GW2Lcy4k&list=UUkXtcsyQ6g8coNrclPvt29w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sAg8GrHldI&list=UUCfnriDcUslGMUMX4Ctkyjg

1 Hour of Street Fighter III 3rd Strike
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeHuO79WUHI&list=UUCfnriDcUslGMUMX4Ctkyjg

3+ Hours of BlazBlue CP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hga1vVj9pM&list=UUCfnriDcUslGMUMX4Ctkyjg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8jXBgu_jMw&list=UUCfnriDcUslGMUMX4Ctkyjg

1 Hour of DoA 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8jXBgu_jMw&list=UUCfnriDcUslGMUMX4Ctkyjg

 

[BumblebeeCody]

CStyles streaming KI season 2.

 

[alstein]

It's a bad thing if the viable character is a cancer like Elf is.

As far as roster size goes, a lot of that depends on the game IMO. Something like SF4 or GG is really matchup-heavy and you have to know a lot of esoterica to be able to play truly well. Contrast KOF13 where the gameplay is much more generalized - a common skeleton + character spice, if you will, instead of the character matchup determining most of the gameplay. KOF13 design can handle a larger cast IMO. A 40-character GG would probably just make me quit.

Everyone has different ideas on what is a cancer.

Some folks consider Ryu a cancer, some consider Yun a cancer, others Blanka.

 

[RockTurtle]

LOTS of Garou footage this week, also some DoA 5~

1 Hour of Ehrgeiz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt48sEdsgV4&list=UUCfnriDcUslGMUMX4Ctkyjg

6 hours of Garou MotW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGBxLCyB6aQ&list=UUkXtcsyQ6g8coNrclPvt29w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0nstvCa7eY&list=UUkXtcsyQ6g8coNrclPvt29w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1blP_GCH9vo&list=UUCfnriDcUslGMUMX4Ctkyjg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9b1W4oIZOBI&list=UUCfnriDcUslGMUMX4Ctkyjg

4+ Hours of Daemon Bride
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6gZjmf3JV4&list=UUCfnriDcUslGMUMX4Ctkyjg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTdW9bQc9_8&list=UUCfnriDcUslGMUMX4Ctkyjg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJOKri6MkAs&list=UUCfnriDcUslGMUMX4Ctkyjg

1 Hour of Sengoku Hime
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_DB9w0q5UM&list=UUkXtcsyQ6g8coNrclPvt29w

2 Hours of Guilty Gear Xrd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL8GW2Lcy4k&list=UUkXtcsyQ6g8coNrclPvt29w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sAg8GrHldI&list=UUCfnriDcUslGMUMX4Ctkyjg

1 Hour of Street Fighter III 3rd Strike
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeHuO79WUHI&list=UUCfnriDcUslGMUMX4Ctkyjg

3+ Hours of BlazBlue CP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hga1vVj9pM&list=UUCfnriDcUslGMUMX4Ctkyjg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8jXBgu_jMw&list=UUCfnriDcUslGMUMX4Ctkyjg

1 Hour of DoA 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8jXBgu_jMw&list=UUCfnriDcUslGMUMX4Ctkyjg

+rep!

i remember buying ergheiz based on character drawing/artwork alone

 

[Curry-Hakase]

480p earthquake footage of Xrd's PS3 version, courtesy of Elvenshadow lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-NFd90ho88

 

[sixteen-bit]

480p earthquake footage Xrd's PS3 version, courtesy of Elvenshadow lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-NFd90ho88

I didn't realize they were showing the PS3 version. Is this the first footage of the game running on that console?

 

[hitsugi]

LOTS of Garou footage this week, also some DoA 5~

1 Hour of Ehrgeiz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt48sEdsgV4&list=UUCfnriDcUslGMUMX4Ctkyjg

6 hours of Garou MotW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGBxLCyB6aQ&list=UUkXtcsyQ6g8coNrclPvt29w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0nstvCa7eY&list=UUkXtcsyQ6g8coNrclPvt29w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1blP_GCH9vo&list=UUCfnriDcUslGMUMX4Ctkyjg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9b1W4oIZOBI&list=UUCfnriDcUslGMUMX4Ctkyjg

4+ Hours of Daemon Bride
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6gZjmf3JV4&list=UUCfnriDcUslGMUMX4Ctkyjg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTdW9bQc9_8&list=UUCfnriDcUslGMUMX4Ctkyjg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJOKri6MkAs&list=UUCfnriDcUslGMUMX4Ctkyjg

1 Hour of Sengoku Hime
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_DB9w0q5UM&list=UUkXtcsyQ6g8coNrclPvt29w

2 Hours of Guilty Gear Xrd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL8GW2Lcy4k&list=UUkXtcsyQ6g8coNrclPvt29w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sAg8GrHldI&list=UUCfnriDcUslGMUMX4Ctkyjg

1 Hour of Street Fighter III 3rd Strike
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeHuO79WUHI&list=UUCfnriDcUslGMUMX4Ctkyjg

3+ Hours of BlazBlue CP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hga1vVj9pM&list=UUCfnriDcUslGMUMX4Ctkyjg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8jXBgu_jMw&list=UUCfnriDcUslGMUMX4Ctkyjg

1 Hour of DoA 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8jXBgu_jMw&list=UUCfnriDcUslGMUMX4Ctkyjg

I love these contributions.

 

[jbug617]

Stickbug hinting that Ruu might attend NEC.

 

[Coffeeling]

Karinchu vs. Comtech Square

My god Tights is a glutton for punishment.

 

[Astarte]

I love these contributions.

Yeah, I like putting these up to glance at once in a while. Still fiending for project justice though

 

[Tizoc]

+rep!

i remember buying ergheiz based on character drawing/artwork alone

There are more Ergheiz footage in that channel, just search for the japanese title and you'll find more

 

[Beckx]

Liking the option to choose slo-mo in training mode on Smash 3DS. Really helps me see what's going on with specific moves and where they hit.

 

[sixteen-bit]

Was Ono's 2nd PS4 game shown at TGS?

What if it was Omega :O

 

[Curry-Hakase]

I didn't realize they were showing the PS3 version. Is this the first footage of the game running on that console?

All of the other Famitsu/Official footage are implied that they're of the PS4 version afaik.

 

[Village]

oh boy like 400 fuertes now in ranked

* hipster ass hipster glasses*

I was being annoying with fuerte before those jerks.

Kidding aside, I'm glad more people are playing him

 

[Busaiku]

Stickbug hinting that Ruu might attend NEC.

Please.

All of the other Famitsu/Official footage are implied that they're of the PS4 version afaik.

It says PS3 on the station.

 

[Curry-Hakase]

It says PS3 on the station.

480p earthquake footage Xrd's PS3 version, courtesy of Elvenshadow lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-NFd90ho88

All of the other Famitsu/Official footage are implied that they're of the PS4 version afaik.

:V

 

[Huw_Dawson]

I have chosen to take this as a personal insult.

Just checked and saw that you're also going to be at RFD. In that regard:

MONEYMATCH BLAD

Spoiler

I don't actually moneymatch... see you there!

Pro Fluke will be there too. I'd actually really like to see two UK Fuerte players playing. I'll put up a £10 prize for the winner of a FT5 or something.

 

[Coffeeling]

:V

ElvenShadow said he had to be told that the game was on PS3, wouldn't have noticed otherwise, so major framerate issues probably aren't a thing.

 

[Rhapsody]

480p earthquake footage Xrd's PS3 version, courtesy of Elvenshadow lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-NFd90ho88

What do you mean earth- oh....

 

[oneida]

http://youtu.be/DaHoP0tiHW4

Akira looks surprisingly cool and rather faithful in DBFC.

looks like a solid adaptation of the character - even seeing moves like guard breaks and half circulars which i didn't expect to see in a 2D game. Wish his damage were there though XD

one thing to note is that akira has two dashing elbows in VF- 66P and 666P. you can differentiate them by whether or not he switches which side he's facing after the move. 666P is arguably the best mid in Virtua Fighter, but the elbow that carried into DBFC seems to be 66P. Not that it matters. it doesn't.

lol @ the GBOD super!

 

[Curry-Hakase]

But is Elvenshadow confirming all TGS Xrds are running on PS3s?

I'm only :V because Busaiku's implying that I didn't know the footage I posted is of the PS3 version...

My impression of the rest of the Xrd footage we've seen are still on PS4(The station in the famitsu/dengeki videos are different from the PS3 station in Elven's video).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS2QKB2ltzw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Betu-PNUMPc

 

[VanillaCakeIsBurning]

Does anyone have a link to the footage of the infamous El Fuerte player at TGS?

 

[Shouta]

This week's title is so good, it should almost be permanent.

 

[Rhapsody]

Does anyone have a link to the footage of the infamous El Fuerte player at TGS?

The whole tournament is uploaded here https://www.youtube.com/user/MadCatzCompany/videos

He's definitely in the later videos, but you can check out the earlier ones too (I haven't watched it all yet).

 

[commanderpepper]

Does anyone have a link to the footage of the infamous El Fuerte player at TGS?

Here's the GFs from TGS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDWW15oJVGQ

 

[VanillaCakeIsBurning]

Here's Sin's Instant Kill versus Ramlethal.

It looks pretty hype.

The whole tournament is uploaded here https://www.youtube.com/user/MadCatzCompany/videos

He's definitely in the later videos, but you can check out the earlier ones too (I haven't watched it all yet).

Here's the GFs from TGS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDWW15oJVGQ

Thank you.

 

[Wiseblade]

It's a bad thing if the viable character is a cancer like Elf is.

NO U

 

[irfaanator]

This week's title is so good, it should almost be permanent.

oh man, that sly hint at a community thread lol.

Spoiler

idk

 

[Nyoro SF]

Whyyyy do people on GAF main the most annoying characters in SF4? I swear this place is full of Dhalsim, Blanka, El Fuerte, Honda, Dee Jay, Hawk and rotate-a-shoto players.

You forgot Thawk apparently

Yep.

 

[Infinite]

Whyyyy do people on GAF main the most annoying characters in SF4? I swear this place is full of Dhalsim, Blanka, El Fuerte, Honda, Dee Jay and rotate-a-shoto players.

You forgot Thawk apparently

 

[oneida]

Whyyyy do people on GAF main the most annoying characters in SF4? I swear this place is full of Dhalsim, Blanka, El Fuerte, Honda, Dee Jay and rotate-a-shoto players.

that's like a third of the roster! do you find that many characters annoying? maybe you should play kof!

 

[Coffeeling]

that's like a third of the roster! do you find that many characters annoying? maybe you should play kof!

Iori vortex and Duo Lon welcome him Kappa

 

[Nyoro SF]

that's like a third of the roster! do you find that many characters annoying? maybe you should play kof!

Well, maybe I was too liberal with the shoto choice...

Iori vortex and Duo Lon welcome him Kappa

Duo Lon was my main when I played KOF13
Very enjoyable game still. And Kyo/EX Iori are definitely the most annoying characters in that game.

 

[Skilotonn]

Whyyyy do people on GAF main the most annoying characters in SF4? I swear this place is full of Dhalsim, Blanka, El Fuerte, Honda, Dee Jay, Hawk and rotate-a-shoto players.



Yep.

Can't speak for the rest, but I pick who look, sound and play fun to me, regardless of how "good" they are. After that I usually try to pick characters that no one plays.

So that's why I play and like Fuerte, Blanka, Dee Jay, Honda, Makoto, and a few others. Evil Ryu I played for a bit as well, but I hear that he's all over online since USF4 came out.

The whole tournament is uploaded here https://www.youtube.com/user/MadCatzCompany/videos

He's definitely in the later videos, but you can check out the earlier ones too (I haven't watched it all yet).

Here's the GFs from TGS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDWW15oJVGQ

Thanks, I actually came here specifically to see if anyone cut out all of his matches, because navigating Twitch archives isn't the most fun thing to do.

 

[hitsugi]

Whyyyy do people on GAF main the most annoying characters in SF4? I swear this place is full of Dhalsim, Blanka, El Fuerte, Honda, Dee Jay, Hawk and rotate-a-shoto players.

We have several Guy players.. I think.

 

[Shouta]

Whyyyy do people on GAF main the most annoying characters in SF4? I swear this place is full of Dhalsim, Blanka, El Fuerte, Honda, Dee Jay, Hawk and rotate-a-shoto players.



Yep.

So you hate the entire cast?

 

[Holy Order Sol]

Iori vortex and Duo Lon welcome him Kappa

The Church of Clarkism is always open.

 

[MiniBossBattle]

Whyyyy do people on GAF main the most annoying characters in SF4? I swear this place is full of Dhalsim, Blanka, El Fuerte, Honda, Dee Jay, Hawk and rotate-a-shoto players.



Yep.

I heard good things about Viper. Maybe I should play her...