I agree. People who pretend to be their favorite characters are weird and I'm glad the SF4 community doesn't have people who do freakish things like dress up as characters in your favorite game.
Fighting Games Weekly | September 3-9
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I agree. People who pretend to be their favorite characters are weird and I'm glad the SF4 community doesn't have people who do freakish things like dress up as characters in your favorite game.
The most obvious is that DOA has a dedicated button for counters and Tekken does not.
toddhunter
Member
One letter away from your answer.
Karsticles
Member
I don't hate on him. I never even said I don't like it. I just said that this is why people separate the two.
There's always someone around to turn it into a battle.
toddhunter
Member
Could also be people being dicks about people enjoying themselves that makes people want to stay away.
Since when is dressing up as your favorite character from a game freakish? wut
What do you mean? I'm just agreeing with you about the distinct difference between anime fighters and other fighting games.
Karsticles
Member
Sure, why not. Or maybe the guy with the creepo voice talking about the anime girls having their periods. Nah, probably just scrooges like me who make people feel bad.
I thought you were being sarcastic, since SFIV has things like that...
Only DOA I touched was DOA3 and i really don't remember much so I'm not qualified to give an answer, BUT, here is everything you need to know about Tekken from a beginner's perspective:
http://www.avoidingthepuddle.com/ttt2-guides/
Beginner's guide.. made by yours truly.
Sounds like SF4 is an anime fighter then.
Karsticles
Member
Maybe to you. Where did I say anything about character cosplay? It blows my mind how people like you make a statement that has nothing to do with what someone is saying and think it makes a point.
toddhunter
Member
No, dressing up is fine, making voices is completely crossing the line.
Professor Beef
Banned
It's fine that the Teddy dude is having fun. But that doesn't make what Karst said any less true.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Seriously though, how out of bounds is people dressing up/doing impersonations of fighting game characters at an event where people are competitively playing video games for money?
Especially considering how EXPECTED the act of cosplaying has become at almost any perceptibly nerdy public event.
There's a lot more to worry about when it comes to stream commentary than an uber-fan as a one-time deal getting on the microphone to show off his goofy "talent" as a bit of comedy.
Especially considering how EXPECTED the act of cosplaying has become at almost any perceptibly nerdy public event.
There's a lot more to worry about when it comes to stream commentary than an uber-fan as a one-time deal getting on the microphone to show off his goofy "talent" as a bit of comedy.
Parallax Scroll
Banned
For a moment I thought PR Rog was doing the Iron Man infinite in training mode. Nope, that was a match.
Karsticles
Member
Did you miss the part where I talked about how he was talking about the young female characters having their periods, and other such things? It's not just the voice. It's the entire context of the situation. This is not hard to understand. You must actively be trying to misunderstand what I am saying to not get it.
I'm not even bothered by it, but how can someone not see how this kind of activity could divide a community?
Alright, that's enough of people not reading what I say for one day. I'm done.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Yeah. I missed that part. It took you almost 5 posts to get there, now that I look back. The first four posts didn't mention the fact that dude was talking about menstruation at all. If you were upset at the fact a dude was making period jokes on the stream, you might have wanted to lead with that. Because of the objectionable things you mentioned - that's probably #1. Not the fact he's costumed, not the fact he can do a goofy voice, the fact he's on stream being gross.
And if you're going to complain about people on stream being gross, you got a LOT of un-costumed nerds you can yap about, too. Commentators who actually have some semblance of influence/audience/notoriety.
Professor Beef
Banned
Oh yeah? Well MY digital pixel art that is to the left of my posts is way more influential than YOURS.
toddhunter
Member
No I didn't miss it, because you didn't mention any of it in your post. You can't completely change the context to something more meaningful and then complain about it.
If you are offended by the stream, fine. But even then saying it is an anime thing is being very selective. Want to go through the greatest hits of some if the more colourful capcom based commentators?
Either way I'm just in a bad mood. I want to see the love, not the hate.
I haven't played or watched the entirety of P4, but is Teddy sort of a perv in the games? If so then he's just playing his character.
Professor Beef
Banned
Not really a perv, but the P4 team are the first humans he has ever seen. It's that kind of innocence thing.
It's still gross but I'm sorry Kasrticles the example you're making out of that dude is anecdotal evidence; not every top player who plays anime games behaves the way he does. That's not even what divides the communities that way I see it.
Karsticles
Member
Let's just look at what my post was:
I assumed, that since everyone here was watching the stream, people would know what I'm talking about. Apparently no one else found the period talk, or the breast talk, or the other weird stuff he said, memorable, and decided to assume I was knocking someone just for making a voice on the stream. It's not even excusable to lay blame for your assumptions on me. It's moronic.
Notice that I did not say "this guy separates the FGC community because he makes a Teddy voice". Yet somehow everyone assumed that, instead of the most much obvious idea that I was trying to denote a specific person in a way everyone would know who it is. If the people that tried to mount me over this took the time to read, such irritating assumptions might not have been made. Is he in a costume? I don't know, and I don't care. It is the whole package, though.
I assumed, that since everyone here was watching the stream, people would know what I'm talking about. Apparently no one else found the period talk, or the breast talk, or the other weird stuff he said, memorable, and decided to assume I was knocking someone just for making a voice on the stream. It's not even excusable to lay blame for your assumptions on me. It's moronic.
And then you come in and make it sound like I was knocking anime fighting games. Guh.
No shit this is anecdotal. That's the nature of the situation. How do you think people develop opinions about communities? A scientific survey?
Lost Fragment
Obsessed with 4chan
NeoGAF: "Let's take everything super goddamn seriously."
Teddie is totally a perv in P4.
Teddie is totally a perv in P4.
scytheavatar
Member
Tekken : 1 hit = you get carried to the wall and become a punching bag
DOA: lets you mash your way out of combos (at least that was in DOA4, they promise that things are different in DOA5)
I'd also accept NeoGAF: "Taking video games personally since 1999."
People defend games/companies on this forum like it's their mother.
Why are you getting so uptight? Chill out.
You're making an argument seemingly based on one dude you saw on a stream. That's ridiculous when you step back and look at it.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Dude - c'mon. It took you five posts to mention that this guy was making period jokes and that it bugged you.
"This guy with the teddie voice making period jokes is why people shun anime fans" would have been like, 30x more clear. Even if you do assume everyone in the thread is watching the stream - and I don't know why you'd assume that, there's like 4 streams going on right now - it just makes sense to clarify why you're posting about the guy with the teddie voice. But you only mentioned that he's doing the voice, and that's it.
At which point, yes, it's excusable to lay the blame for the assumptions on you - because it took you five posts to mention that the guy is being gross on the stream.
Karsticles
Member
So when I say "Oh man, that fight was awesome" in the thread, I should say what stream I'm watching, who is playing, and what part was awesome? Because that's the standard you're proposing. If you're watching the stream, it's obvious.
More importantly, assumptions are always the fault of the person making the assumption. Always. Not to mention that the conclusion people came to was just plain bad reading.
If you're not watching the stream, then don't give a fuck. It's that simple. I'm not talking to you, just like the people who say "that Morrigan comeback was awesome" aren't talking to the people who aren't watching the supposed MvC3 stream. This is not hard. It's not intelligent to try to argue about a Morrigan comeback you didn't see and make assumptions about the fight, and it's not intelligent to argue with me about the merits of my claim person on the mic you weren't listening to.
Edit: And holy wow, another assumption within your post; I'm not bothered. I never said the Teddy guy bothered me. Is it really so hard to understand that I might be making a comment about how someone from outside the community might view something?
RockTurtle
Member
Considering who he's cosplaying though, it makes sense
Parallax Scroll
Banned
I just think the teddie guy has an annoying voice
Bobby Roberts
Banned
When there's like three or four streams going? Yeah. Sure. It'd help.
This kinda belies a fundamental misunderstanding on how misunderstandings happen. (let that roll around for a second
Dude, you made an incendiary comment. People were like "Whoa, what the fuck." it took you 5 posts to clarify. Also, the point you were trying to make with your initial post is still sorta faulty, because, as was pointed out by multiple people in the thread - the idea the division between Capcom and Anime fighters can be sourced to this Teddy impersonator on one stream is pretty fucking specious.
Hell, Maxamillion is getting money FROM Capcom for doing tutorials with MULTIPLE people in costume, in character.
SolarPowered
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Someone was making jokes while imitating Teddie's VA? I've heard the imitator before. Thank God I missed that. My ears would have bled.
90TilInfinity
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SSF4 Ultras without camera angles
I'd never seen this video before, just thought I'd post it in case some of you hadn't either. I hope in Street Fighter V they go back to this, as well as taunts that do damage and fight intros on the same screen too...yeah, I'm on Team Third Strike.
I'd never seen this video before, just thought I'd post it in case some of you hadn't either. I hope in Street Fighter V they go back to this, as well as taunts that do damage and fight intros on the same screen too...yeah, I'm on Team Third Strike.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Holy shit I VASTLY prefer this.
That's really awesome! Bison's and Dudley's were particularly impressive. Fighting games really should move towards shorter, faster cinematic supers if they decide to do cinematic supers at all, in my opinion.
SolarPowered
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Someone tweet this to Sven or whoever has influence on the Street Fighter series in Capcom USA. Ryu's uppercut makes my jaw hurt and Guy's disappearing act was awesome. Only five words necessary.
"SFV without camera angles please"
Professor Beef
Banned
I have always wanted to see what most of those Ultras looked like without the crazy camera angles.
toddhunter
Member
Not much argument that it would be better. The iphone version highlighted a lot of these and I like Cammy's U1 in particular.
What we get in SFV? I'm guessing 2.5 minute knights of the round type animations.
Sometimes i wonder what SF5 will be like, and wonder if it'll have air dashing or air blocking or universal custom combos or alpha counters or some crazy new mechanics or whatever, and every time I've seen the discussion play out everyone always talks about these tiny details like reversal windows and how much frame advantage a jab should give you and so on. Cutting back on the cinematics is one random thing i'd agree with, unless its like a finishing move or something.