They're bout to fuck up harder than Spider-Man 3 with THREE monsters in one film.
What character development is needed for the monsters?
They're bout to fuck up harder than Spider-Man 3 with THREE monsters in one film.
Not in the second film though. They need to establish the franchise a little more first. Then do a big multi-monster battle.
Nothing in these movies is from a Tolstoy novel. One of the main reasons people like Godzilla movies is because of the outrageous, dumb backstory for each of the monsters.
Godzilla had 8 minutes of screen time in 2014.I better see ten minutes in total of humans.
So a Godzilla film then?Mothra, Rodan and Ghidorah all in the same film sounds like a clusterfuck
That abomination? Not at all. I would love for American companies to stop messing with the franchise but I guess as long as Toho gets enough money, it's fine.
Yeah, Rodan and Mothra got their own movies back in the day, and they were hot garbage.
After the 70's they've rarely put out any of that good stuff though. Shin was an amazing breath of fresh air after the disasters that were the Heisei and Millennium series. I'd say Legendary should attempt it again.Leave the satire, subtext and nuance to the Japanese.
I hope they don't ruin this like 2014 one.
That abomination? Not at all. I would love for American companies to stop messing with the franchise but I guess as long as Toho gets enough money, it's fine.
Nah man, nah. 2014 Godzilla has an awesome design.
i think it'll be mothra and the g-man team up vs rodan with a king ghidorah tease at the end.
Man, that cast is really good.
As a massive Godzilla fan I'm finding it hilarious that some of y'all think any of these monsters have some lengthy, deep lore that takes anything more than like 20 minutes total to set up.
Mothra, Rodan and Ghidorah all in the same film sounds like a clusterfuck
Preach it BobsterPeople unironically claiming you need setup movies?
C'mon guys.
Beside the fact this movie basically already happened once and all the setup was more or less contained WITHIN that movie, we're not dealing with a particularly complicated/robust mythology that audiences aren't going to be able to digest.
People been asking for big fat professional wrestling monsterfites since 1999. It now appears Mr. Daugherty is going to be providing that exact thing.
I mean - I understand the "conventional widsom" that suggests you need to step people through the complicated origin stories of giant irradiated monsters buried under the earth's surface one movie at a time, but you probably don't really need it at all, and the actual wisdom contained in that "conventional wisdom" isn't necessarily wise by default.
These complaints read less like an assessment of the film's potential quality and more like a disdainful assessment of moviegoers in general.
"Sounds like it's gonna be a clusterfuck" = people both making and watching these movies are too stupid to do it right/understand it well.
I can't imagine what some people in this thread must have thought when they saw Jaws for the first time. "Why isn't the shark always on screen! I paid for shark carnage, this is a rip-off!"
Seriously, Godzilla 2014 is a master class in pacing for blockbuster cinema. Even if you hate the main character, his journey is a fantastically structured trip through the creatures' devastation. So many awesome sequences.
But yeah, because the two baddies don't face off until the end scene (since having a climax is so passe) - it's practically Waiting for Godot.
Shin was an amazing breath of fresh air after the disasters that were the Heisei and Millennium series. I'd say Legendary should attempt it again.
He's at least 10-20 million tons overweight.
Dude needs to cut back on the sweets and hit the treadmill every now and then.
What character development is needed for the monsters?
If Godzilla thrashes Mothra, Rodan, and Ghidorah in this film, it'll be quite a feat to make Kong seem like a threat in their showdown.
Wouldn't shock me to see Rodan fight with Godzilla(after and initial shuffle) and Mothra as more of a neutral foe fighting against Godzilla and Ghidorah. I can see them making Ghidorah strong as hell and needing the 3 others together to finally take it down in the end.
I can't imagine what some people in this thread must have thought when they saw Jaws for the first time. "Why isn't the shark always on screen! I paid for shark carnage, this is a rip-off!"
Seriously, Godzilla 2014 is a master class in pacing for blockbuster cinema. Even if you hate the main character, his journey is a fantastically structured trip through the creatures' devastation. So many awesome sequences.
But yeah, because the two baddies don't face off until the end scene (since having a climax is so passe) - it's practically Waiting for Godot.
Oh, absolutely. The human characters in both Godzilla and Kong as aggressively uninteresting. The latter at least throws so many of them in the story, it becomes a campy delight. Godzilla focuses hard on it's core familial story, and the fact it doesn't work is going to be a mark against it.It definitely pulls from the Spielberg pool of monster flicks, but using the creature sparingly, and making the moments where he shows up really count (Jurassic Park also only had 15 minutes of dinosaurs). And I will say I liked Godzilla 2014. I didn't even dislike the human parts.
But it also isn't exactly the same tier as all-time classics Jaws or Jurassic Park. It certainly has its flaws, and the execution of the formula could have been better. I think if people liked the parts without Godzilla more, you would have heard a lot less complaints about his final screen-time.
I don't think theres a large enough difference between Rodan and the Mutos from the first film to make him the main villain, and he has never been Godzilla's main foe in the past films.
Why would you need an intro movie for "giant pterodactyl that does stuff" (what even is Rodan's lore? Does anyone care?) and "giant moth worshiped on an island as the savior of nature"
That's literally the exact plot of the first Ghidorah movie!
I really love some of those films :/
It ain't the true Mothra unless they use her theme song.
After the 70's they've rarely put out any of that good stuff though. Shin was an amazing breath of fresh air after the disasters that were the Heisei and Millennium series. I'd say Legendary should attempt it again.
Yeah but then the movies become incredibly rushed out and had to bank on nostalgia from the previous era.Heisei can't be a disaster when it contains Godzilla vs Biollante and Godzilla vs King Ghidorah.
I like GMK but it's far from the best. It's tone changes way too much, and while other movies had comedic moments or other shifts, they never detracted from the message the movie was set out to say.Millennium can't be a disaster because it contains the best film in the whole series.GMK
I was already disappointed that we didn't get Godzilla's theme in proper for the 2014 movie, but not having Mothra's would be a true crime.I don't think I can express how immensely disappointed I will be if it doesn't appear at all.
It HAS to appear. I don't care how cheesy and out of place it is. It's core to the experience of Mothra.
I don't think there's a single movie Mothra appears in where the song isn't referenced in some way.
Mothra, Rodan and Ghidorah all in the same film sounds like a clusterfuck
Nah man, nah. 2014 Godzilla has an awesome design.
I don't think I can express how immensely disappointed I will be if it doesn't appear at all.
It HAS to appear. I don't care how cheesy and out of place it is. It's core to the experience of Mothra.
I don't think there's a single movie Mothra appears in where the song isn't referenced in some way.
I could see them using the theme instrumentally in some way, or the people of the world make a song through some radio or TV channel after Mothra's appearances/actions.
There was no outright singing in GMK, but they did use this in its place. A sort of majestic rendition of the Mothra theme with light chorus in the background. I'm hoping something similar will be done for the new movie.
Skip to 0:37 to see what I mean.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eokm8fRxvLU