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Final Fantasy Brave Exvius |OT5| Our Golden Anniversary Brings Us Hope
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DXLelouch153
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sent a request
hopefully i can use your orlandeu to deal with Hein tomorrow and be done with it(just started so im literally Soraing it up right now)
Hein has physical resist. Most have been sharing mages. I have dark fina shared right now.
What's your Setzer setup? I only have two though.
DXLelouch153
Banned
k cool
You probably only need one to make it work. Just have Edgar/Chizuru/Setzer or whoever you own chain attack before you finish that attack with Setzers Dice.
Just make sure that the chainers and Setzer use the same elements weapons. I used Coral Swords on all of them. And like always Dual Wield and killer abilities from Esper/gear etc. help with the damage.
I used 2x Red Card from two Setzers + Dice from a Setzer to finish it.
But 2x Chainsaw from two Edgars + Dice finishing move from Setzer would result in the same.
Fight doesn't cost any stamina so just give it a couple tries... Shouldn't take too long.
So for anyone who also had the issue where you couldn't switch characters, limit break, change parties, return to the main menu and etc., I sent a mail to the devs (http://finalfantasyexvius.com/support/) and they answered right away, solving the issue in less than 5 hours.
Lyrian
Member
Long time, no post. Maybe I'll survive Irma this weekend, maybe not. (Spoiler: Surely will. Track right storm not left, dammit). But hey, school and work and both cancelled for at least a few days, so that's a plus. Suppose I'll actually have time to post for a change, at least for a few days. Well, assuming power and internet holds out here.
Sounds like the tightening of the gacha screws is really taking a toll on the vets here.
Have to join the crowd a bit in venting that it's getting to be too hard to pull a key 4*, let alone any of the rainbows.
Still don't have an Amelia to get the gun mastery armor for Olive.
Wasn't able to pull Heavens for spear mastery for Elza.
Shitty RNG led to only 1 power T4 in seven straight days. So I'm short for Agrias's DR +2. Meh. At least, well behind Celegus, I finished an Adventurer +4. So, that's something, I guess.
And and to that, what might be close to the game's worst Mog King event ever, is just outright depressing. No bonus spawns for 3 days, and then all that shows up is a 100 fang bonus mob. Why even bother at that point?
Would love to pull for a Greg, but who am I kidding. Will need to stockpile at least 40-50 tickets for even an average chance at the next split 4* banner unit, so not pulling at this banner at all.
Meh, meh, meh.
Well, here's hoping there's some nice announcements from the Fan Festa on Saturday to lighten our spirits. As others have said, the game's at a really low point at the moment. Hopefully, it will rebound soon.
Bonus meh going to another game that I play that has long resisted the siren's call of the gacha falling finally succumbing to it and causing it's 3-year old community to absolutely explode. There isn't enough BaghdadBob.gifs on the internet for the dumpster fires going on over there right now. /sigh
Sounds like the tightening of the gacha screws is really taking a toll on the vets here.
Have to join the crowd a bit in venting that it's getting to be too hard to pull a key 4*, let alone any of the rainbows.
Still don't have an Amelia to get the gun mastery armor for Olive.
Wasn't able to pull Heavens for spear mastery for Elza.
Shitty RNG led to only 1 power T4 in seven straight days. So I'm short for Agrias's DR +2. Meh. At least, well behind Celegus, I finished an Adventurer +4. So, that's something, I guess.
And and to that, what might be close to the game's worst Mog King event ever, is just outright depressing. No bonus spawns for 3 days, and then all that shows up is a 100 fang bonus mob. Why even bother at that point?
Would love to pull for a Greg, but who am I kidding. Will need to stockpile at least 40-50 tickets for even an average chance at the next split 4* banner unit, so not pulling at this banner at all.
Meh, meh, meh.
Well, here's hoping there's some nice announcements from the Fan Festa on Saturday to lighten our spirits. As others have said, the game's at a really low point at the moment. Hopefully, it will rebound soon.
Bonus meh going to another game that I play that has long resisted the siren's call of the gacha falling finally succumbing to it and causing it's 3-year old community to absolutely explode. There isn't enough BaghdadBob.gifs on the internet for the dumpster fires going on over there right now. /sigh
Oh? What's gone sour? Hearing how somebody has it worse might pick this group up.
That sounds rough whatever it is! I'm glad the only other mobile game I play (Mobius FF) has improved a ton in the past month and has all kinds of good stuff going on, definitely the happiest I've ever seen that community!
Lyrian
Member
Well... my other half way back when got me started on a hidden gem of a little game that was hiding on Steam for years. Not a big deal, but after some research, was shocked that the game was was written by some quality devs.... the ones who actually wrote the original Puzzle Quest.
Literally, the game was Online Puzzle Quest 1 written in Adobe Flash. I kid you not. Yeah, it had some microtransactions, but they were really of the "support the devs" type and nowhere near the "pay to win" type. Quietly, the game had a small cult base that kept it afloat through donations for two years or so, and the devs kept adding to the game. So, everyone was happy.
But, then one day, the devs got a bit ambitious and starting attempting to expand onto other platforms. First, Android/iOS. No big deal, same Flash stuff. Then came the consoles. Consoles can't run Flash, so a second version of the game in Unity was created for the consoles, and both versions ran independently of each other, while having similar content (just like JP and Global here in FFBE). Not a big deal.
Then, about six months ago, the devs decided that they did not want to code the game twice for both versions, which was a reasonable assertion to present. Given that Flash is ancient and not supported anymore, the PC/Mobile playerbase easily accepted the premise that their version of the game was going to rewritten in Unity.
Fast forward to about six weeks ago. The Unity rewrite project was finished and the PC version was ported to Unity.... except that the PC Flash version of the game wasn't rewritten. Rather, the console version was ported over to PC. This was evident with the UI in the PC Unity version being completely designed for a controller and not a mouse and keyboard. But, to make matters worse, the console version of the game leaned more heavily towards the pay-2-win side of things. Granted, it wasn't that overboard, but for the PC crowd, it was a giant shock.
People raged, devs were on damage control for weeks. Work on a new UI began, while the PC audience struggled to adapt to the changes in the game. The crowds were temporarily appeased at the a long-awaited announcement of a crafting system was going to be implemented to deal with the thornier side of a game that had grown by three years of power creep. There was grumbling, but hope.
Then came last week. The crafting update arrived with some additional.... changes.
Mobile was the last platforms to switch over to Unity, and it finally happened. The devs were happy that the game had finally been unified over all platforms in a single version. With a new version came technological improvements, such as being able to play the game at a faster speed than was possible before under Flash.
As a result, the devs blindsided everyone by claiming that because of the potential for players to play the game faster and earn rewards faster, that all in-game rewards that existed had to be reduced by 20% to keep balance to the game economy. People immediately called bullshit. Many weekly free rewards (resources/free pulls) were cut by as much as 50% in quantity. Weekly free premium currency payouts was cut by 75%.
And... then there was the crafting system. On one hand, it allowed people faster advancement in the game to get to end-game faster. Great. But, it introduced a new super-premium currency, that at current rates, would require players to scrounge up for many months to be able to "craft" a Unit of Choice rainbow-tier unit (in FFBE terms). Of course, this could be sped up by a $5 daily microtransaction for a pathetic extra amount of this super-premium currency.
People flipped out. Hardcore.
Oh.... but wait.... there's MORE.
And now... this week has brought unholy hell to the forums there.
After a week of fire, brimstone and pitchforks, the devs partially capitulated and restored the majority of the free premium currency payouts (it's down only 25% now instead of 75%). But, the number of free pulls per week is still halved. In exchange, some quantities of the new super-premium currency can be earned for free, so earning a rainbow Unit of Choice might take 3-ish months now.
But, with the reduced free pulls, there was no longer any reasonable guarantee of pulling the week's banner's units for high performers for the first time in three years.
And the first units under this new system were outright broken. In FFBE terms, one would be a 4* raid unit, and the other a natural 4* on a split banner (sound familiar to a recent collab event)? For a game that has been releasing new units for three years, to be in a situation where a banner's units required not one, but TWO nerfs during their introductory banner week (since Monday) and in-game refunds was completely inexcusable. These units were so broken, that in tandem, they could duo anything in the game. The devs have apologized for the errors (but yet no compensation), and many are again calling complete bullshit on the matter.
So, now, here we are at ThisIsFine.jpg.
I've never seen a game's main forum erupt into a blazing inferno of hatred so fast. Granted, most of the majority of the forum posters are the hardcore, but that can be said of any message board group (just like r/FFBE). Still, they are the saltiest, as the very hard push towards P2W has alienated nearly the entire community, as the changes were clearly targeted to kneecap what the game's highest performers can do in an attempt to force them to engage in microtransactions to maintain their expected in-game lifestyle, which they have enjoyed for nearly 3 years.
All in all, it doesn't faze me much, as I'm used to playing P2W games. Still, this is almost a case study on what NOT to do when attempting to coerce your player base to buy more microtransactions.
Lyrian
Member
The original devs wrote two normal Puzzle Quests, which were excellent. Then, they created an highly-complex version of it in space, which required almost Mensa-level intelligence to play. It bombed badly, and I think the devs were dropped like a hot rock after that. Since then, all the new Puzzle Quests have been made by other devs.
Most of them of the last few years are all mobile P2W games. I enjoyed the Marvel one for awhile, but that one mentally broke me for many months from the strain of being forced to play competitively 24/7 to remain viable as a non-whale. I will never play a competitive game like that ever again.
Meh, the latest Irma model shifted the storm closer to me. That's not what I wanted to see.
You know. I think I wont do it, atleast not yet. I don't need that harp, it will just be eq filler. I can always do it later.
Thats great to hear that you got your problems solver really fast.
I have prolly pulled much more than you lately, Iam still missing Amelia & E.Veritas (and Water one too). Getting 4* from banner is so hard nowadays, feels stupid
My most played game in DSlite /DSi. Also played shitton it on PS3. Didnt know there was gacha version. I have that Space version too in PSN, played it somewhat but yeah, not as good as PQ. Then I do have PQ2 too. But still PQ1 is the best of those.
Shouta
Member
2 Pod 153s will deal less damage than an Agrias/Orlandu pair but you can use them with anybody as necessary. If you don't have anyone compatibl else compatible with Orlandu, then Agrias is fantastic.
Oof, sorry to hear that. That does actually make me feel better about Gumi though. For as much shit as we give them I think they come from a place of sincerity, it's just a mix of incompetence, slow reactions, and corporate meddling that get in the way so often.
AdawgDaFAB
Member
I'm with ya here. Scared as can be about Irma. I planned to leave the state but family was stubborn. Thankfully, we are at least leaving S.FL for Lakeland today. Still likely to feel it there, but things should be far worse down here.
Hope all of us in the path of Irma (and soon enough Jose...) are ok and ready.
i dont see it, if it indeed was free, nicccceee~
non elemental magic is the best way, ultima, alterna etc
I'm assuming we can do it with someone's friend unit, for example loads of people are sharing Trance Terra.
Just last a few turns.
In general you can't build content around a single unit, especially a 5* one. I think around this time is when the JP version started to try making mages/magic more relevant. I'm guessing the boss also somewhat stays true to what it was like in the actual game.
i thought this thread might be enjoyed here, bis talk on about a dozen units... https://www.reddit.com/r/FFBraveExv...on_of_bis_atk_levels/?st=j7bpebaz&sh=9f0ab167
The story started out just ok. But as it progress, it gets more interesting.
Yikes...the op is clearly only going for high atk. An Aileen without Artisan? Later saying Elza gets artisan because with aileen you can imperil the enemy....
Psa that many people don't know about
https://exvius.gamepedia.com/Best_in_Slot
It has bis and limited bis using only the unit specific tmr.
Zera_Bloodwinter
Member
Lmao so wtf am I supposed to do with this harp from the trial? First thought is Ramza but i never bothered to look up his bis. Also Marie is such a gem. She trivialized that trial and the new Hein event as well.
^^
Thats why I didnt do that trial. Saving 1 eq slot
Anyways, I kinda need another Ashe, used Ashe first time in Hein trial.
First 5 man team (without Ashe), took many many turns:
Then that <15 turns, I kinda failed first 3 turns since I didn't use Heavens Fury and Rikku didn't get lb. So next few turns went to resurrecting units, and getting Rikku lb ready. Rikku has 2 Jack tm's.
Ace was doing Tri-Beam and Jackpot Shot chained to Ashe's hf. Zyrus used Blood Pulsar only. While Wilhelm boosted lb & atk & mag via generals battlecry and used LB.
Ashe's heavens Fury so nice.
As for mag:
Zyrus - 686
Ashe - 539
Ace - 823 (Odin)
Frashe - 923 or something
Thats why I didnt do that trial. Saving 1 eq slot
Anyways, I kinda need another Ashe, used Ashe first time in Hein trial.
First 5 man team (without Ashe), took many many turns:
Then that <15 turns, I kinda failed first 3 turns since I didn't use Heavens Fury and Rikku didn't get lb. So next few turns went to resurrecting units, and getting Rikku lb ready. Rikku has 2 Jack tm's.
Ace was doing Tri-Beam and Jackpot Shot chained to Ashe's hf. Zyrus used Blood Pulsar only. While Wilhelm boosted lb & atk & mag via generals battlecry and used LB.
Ashe's heavens Fury so nice.
As for mag:
Zyrus - 686
Ashe - 539
Ace - 823 (Odin)
Frashe - 923 or something
The Reddit thread linked is of essentially no value beyond "oh, that's neat that those units have those maximum ATK values". The Exviuswiki link is useful as a shopping list-ish thing but has no actual context. This analysis, though not perfect, at least provides actual numbers and different rotations and is probably one of the best things the FFBE subreddit has produced.
The harp's sole function is to put it on Ramza so it may bump him a percentage point for an expedition. Otherwise the only use is putting on a bonus unit in a Mog King event for a stat buff.
You could probably say the only reason to do the trial is to get the Chamber of the Fallen version so you can get 100 lapis out of redoing it. The harp is just -1 equipment slot.
Did the hein trial with
Wol
Tillith
Marie
D.Fina (only ultima+1) and lousy 700 mag
Fryevia with dual hand build and and dc and ultima materia
+
Friend Trance Terra
Did it in 9 turns...had 0 problems aside using tt wrong and got into mp problems, so it tool longer than expected. I can put up enhanced Marie if needed?
Marie makes this trial really trivial.
Wol was only Breaking. Marie did lovely guard or her other ability and some healing or focus or extra bar-spells.
My mages only did ultimas. Marie is sooooo good.
Wol
Tillith
Marie
D.Fina (only ultima+1) and lousy 700 mag
Fryevia with dual hand build and and dc and ultima materia
+
Friend Trance Terra
Did it in 9 turns...had 0 problems aside using tt wrong and got into mp problems, so it tool longer than expected. I can put up enhanced Marie if needed?
Marie makes this trial really trivial.
Wol was only Breaking. Marie did lovely guard or her other ability and some healing or focus or extra bar-spells.
My mages only did ultimas. Marie is sooooo good.
Finally! A run where he weakened his Fire resist!
Damn, there was one where he didn't for the whole 15 turns, I was almost tempted to use elixirs and just Alterna his face to death.
Those RNG elements can be awful >.>
Hmm, if I had an Ashe, it would have been way easier since his weakness is Thunder 95% of the time.
Damn, there was one where he didn't for the whole 15 turns, I was almost tempted to use elixirs and just Alterna his face to death.
Those RNG elements can be awful >.>
Hmm, if I had an Ashe, it would have been way easier since his weakness is Thunder 95% of the time.
^^
Thats why I didnt do that trial. Saving 1 eq slot
Anyways, I kinda need another Ashe, used Ashe first time in Hein trial.
First 5 man team (without Ashe), took many many turns:
Then that <15 turns, I kinda failed first 3 turns since I didn't use Heavens Fury and Rikku didn't get lb. So next few turns went to resurrecting units, and getting Rikku lb ready. Rikku has 2 Jack tm's.
Ace was doing Tri-Beam and Jackpot Shot chained to Ashe's hf. Zyrus used Blood Pulsar only. While Wilhelm boosted lb & atk & mag via generals battlecry and used LB.
Ashe's heavens Fury so nice.
As for mag:
Zyrus - 686
Ashe - 539
Ace - 823 (Odin)
Frashe - 923 or something
Congrats Rixa,
i gotta say the stage i s a bit tougher than i expected...only tried once earlier this morning an failed....didnt expect my Victoria to do such little damage with Meteor.
Will try on my other acc later....sill need to get like 4 Sacred Crystals so i can evolve Ashe.
Ill def try to use your Ace and see if i can spam Thundaja with Ashe once she is max lvl.
Mage Hein wasn't too bad.
Beat it with this team:
Ashe
Ashe
Marie (Enhanced Lovely Guard)
Soleil (Enhanced Cannon and Shooting Dances)
Friend Dark Fina
Ashe 1 and 2: Heaven's Fury a lot
Marie: Alternate Elemental Buffs and Status Resist Buffs
Soleil: Alternate Cannon Dance and Shooting Dance
Dark Fina: Dual Cast Ultima a lot.
You won't run out of MP if you keep the pressure up.
Got all quests on third attempt with this team. Only thing to watch out for is status effects on the first turn. After that you'll be ok.
Beat it with this team:
Ashe
Ashe
Marie (Enhanced Lovely Guard)
Soleil (Enhanced Cannon and Shooting Dances)
Friend Dark Fina
Ashe 1 and 2: Heaven's Fury a lot
Marie: Alternate Elemental Buffs and Status Resist Buffs
Soleil: Alternate Cannon Dance and Shooting Dance
Dark Fina: Dual Cast Ultima a lot.
You won't run out of MP if you keep the pressure up.
Got all quests on third attempt with this team. Only thing to watch out for is status effects on the first turn. After that you'll be ok.
Oof, Hein kinda kicked my butt. Guess I should try and level Marie. He nuked my Rikku 1st turn even through Tillith's element resist. D.Fina only has about 700 MAG but with a decent friend unit I think I can pull it off.
EDIT: Wow, holy crap what a difference Marie makes. Had zero trouble clearing in about 10 turns, largely thanks to DrRob's Fryevia. Only reason it took 10 is because he went ham on D. Fina one turn so I had to revive and lost some damage.
EDIT: Wow, holy crap what a difference Marie makes. Had zero trouble clearing in about 10 turns, largely thanks to DrRob's Fryevia. Only reason it took 10 is because he went ham on D. Fina one turn so I had to revive and lost some damage.
crazyivan19
Member
For those that are having trouble with Heine and have a Soleil, I recommend enhancing her Cannon Dance ability. I was having a dickens of a time with him, but after I beefed up CD and brought along Hippo's crazy T. Terra, I could knock off 25-30% of Heine's health in one round without blinking an eye.
Hippopuncher12
Member
Sorry for your luck. I would mention in case you don't know we will be getting a unit Lorraine/Loren whatever they call her here that has a better Genji Glove. She comes from EX points, she is also a better unit than Greg. So unless you just really want Greg I would say wait to spend anymore until she gets here in roughly a month.
Yes but it's a materia and not an accessory.
My reasoning for wanting the proper Genji Glove accessory is so that Dual Wield isn't taking a materia slot.
Lyrian
Member
I would like to present a professional opinion here about the Heim trial fight.
**ahem**
Fuck you, Gumi.
*** Fuck you for making Meteor/Ultima/Alterna near-useless against Trial Heim.
*** Fuck you for making every goddamn fight that's worth a damn use magic-based physical attacks, so that every tank in the game currently is useless (i.e. Gumi's continue hatred towards WoL 6*).
*** Fuck you for making every goddamn fight that's worth a damn (that's not cheesable) require Rikku's HyperNulAll or similar ability to even survive a single round most of the time (often because of the previous point).
*** Fuck you for making every goddamn fight that's worth a damn in the last two months be slightly-lesser versions of the Malboro trial with mass AoE status effects being spammed every frigging turn.
Finally 6-manned Heim after 5 tries, and 2 phone throws (thank you Otterbox yet again), and luck on barrier shifts to the right element at the right time.
This event can truly take it's place along the "cherished" Demons Unleashed event as the most unsatisfying event in the game to date.
**ahem**
Now, back to your regularly scheduled semi-sanity from posts.
**ahem**
Fuck you, Gumi.
*** Fuck you for making Meteor/Ultima/Alterna near-useless against Trial Heim.
*** Fuck you for making every goddamn fight that's worth a damn use magic-based physical attacks, so that every tank in the game currently is useless (i.e. Gumi's continue hatred towards WoL 6*).
*** Fuck you for making every goddamn fight that's worth a damn (that's not cheesable) require Rikku's HyperNulAll or similar ability to even survive a single round most of the time (often because of the previous point).
*** Fuck you for making every goddamn fight that's worth a damn in the last two months be slightly-lesser versions of the Malboro trial with mass AoE status effects being spammed every frigging turn.
Finally 6-manned Heim after 5 tries, and 2 phone throws (thank you Otterbox yet again), and luck on barrier shifts to the right element at the right time.
This event can truly take it's place along the "cherished" Demons Unleashed event as the most unsatisfying event in the game to date.
**ahem**
Now, back to your regularly scheduled semi-sanity from posts.