We want the content to roll over as fast as possible so we can get to the good stuff soon. Inventing these atrocious banners out of nowhere delays everything and the game will be kept in this trash state longer.
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Final Fantasy Brave Exvius |OT5| Our Golden Anniversary Brings Us Hope
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CGwizz
Member
That i agree, they are delaying as much as they can, they had a taste of that blobal whales money and its hard for them to not milk this as much as they can. In jp they give everything its insane the diference xD
They aren't milking shit with these abhorrent banners, it makes absolutely no sense what is happening with this piece of shit game.
No one will waste money on them and people will get mad because they are not getting the good content any sooner, GOOD SHIT GUMI.
What's this about?
indigo-cyclops
Member
Yea ive noticed his absence for a week or so now. Nothing. Death blow for me is the majority of you guys moving on. This is a real shame and the fact that I've spent money on this game, over 1000 hours, for it to just fizz out so unceremoniously almost makes me sick. My interest is waning with this awful MK event. Not to mention the utter lack of self-awareness from Gumi, who has the power to make some changes and turn this all around. I don't see it happening any time soon though.
there's just so much good stuff coming but stuff like this banner just make no sense. So I want to hold on for as long as I can. Maybe just a down point for me.
That said, I could use another Genji Glove. And I am tempted to enhance Agrias...
And here I was thinking the Kingdom Hearts fanbase was the worst at complaining about the games they supposedly play and love.
I'm going to be honest. I don't post here anymore because 2/3 of the posts are nothing but people bitching and complaining about the game. This thread is not even fun to lurk anymore, much less have a discussion because someone will eventually post how we're all idiots for supporting this game and why JP is so much better despite that fact that it's almost a year ahead. The rampant negativity is just bonkers.
If someone like me who's actually well off in this game stops posting here, then I clearly understand why less devoted/lucky players did a long time ago.
I'm going to be honest. I don't post here anymore because 2/3 of the posts are nothing but people bitching and complaining about the game. This thread is not even fun to lurk anymore, much less have a discussion because someone will eventually post how we're all idiots for supporting this game and why JP is so much better despite that fact that it's almost a year ahead. The rampant negativity is just bonkers.
If someone like me who's actually well off in this game stops posting here, then I clearly understand why less devoted/lucky players did a long time ago.
Ex point should get a new milestone at 500 points which is a unit called lorraine/loren. Her tm is an materia that allows dw and gives 15% atk depending on your weapons.
As for quitting. I will stay here untill the very end....except i don't get lila...then i need some hugs.
Lorraine. EX unit that you get once you hit 500 points on it. Her TM is a Genji Glove But Better for Phys DPS.
Though Genji is still the best DW TM for Magic users atm (I need one for Fry).
I used to think it was an acc too but it is a materia.
indigo-cyclops
Member
Has there been any word on when we'll get Lorraine? I imagine not...
Meh, close enough. Since you can get multiple ATK bonuses off of it.
Noooooope. But she's probably not too far away.
It's a pretty good banner.
People who joined during Nier have now had banners featuring:
- The most useful overall tank (WoL)
- The best stat buffer (Soleil - not that a fresh account would be able to leverage her enhanced dances, to be fair)
- Two servicable healers for non-top trial content (Veritas of the Waters, Aria)
- Whatever they managed to extract on Nier
This banner then gives them access to an eventual source of dual wield, Blade Mastery, a TM that is still quite valuable, especially in the wake of Nier giving them Cruel Oath, and the moonshot at Genji Glove, which is still very relevant. That puts a fresh account in a good state if they can manage to have pulled even just a couple of the above banner units.
The problem isn't the banner. The problem is players having a complete lack of perspective and wanting everything to be about them them them, me me me, all the time, 100%, every week. See the last 50 posts (or the majority of every page stretching back to the nanosecond the Nier banner went up).
The game is in a slow period following what was in the top 3 single spikes of interest since the game's inception. Criticize Gumi for timing that spike poorly and managing it incorrectly? Fair cop: I'd agree with you. I think Nier shouldn't have been announced at the first Fan Festa, FFXI should have released when GL got Nier, and Nier should have been announced at the second Fan Festa in a couple of days, then released the following week, sans Eve (or with Eve on the raid gacha).
But it's (past) time to let it go, seriously. If you want to play in the fields of Elysium where rainbows litter every 10+1, nothing's stopping you from playing JP. If you want to quit playing the game that you constantly, vocally do not enjoy, nothing's stopping you from doing that either (save, perhaps in both cases, the Sunk Cost Fallacy).
It's not likely to change next week either, if it's the FFXI raid. It's not going to change for some of you until we reach feature parity with JP. Spoilers: it's probably not happening this month. Or this year. Or ever, because by the time we reach parity with them, they're going to have something else.
I've been lurking on GAF for years and this thread was what got me to actually post. It was a healthy, fun community; it's now actively miserable to read. Some of that's on Gumi. But not all of it.
People who joined during Nier have now had banners featuring:
- The most useful overall tank (WoL)
- The best stat buffer (Soleil - not that a fresh account would be able to leverage her enhanced dances, to be fair)
- Two servicable healers for non-top trial content (Veritas of the Waters, Aria)
- Whatever they managed to extract on Nier
This banner then gives them access to an eventual source of dual wield, Blade Mastery, a TM that is still quite valuable, especially in the wake of Nier giving them Cruel Oath, and the moonshot at Genji Glove, which is still very relevant. That puts a fresh account in a good state if they can manage to have pulled even just a couple of the above banner units.
The problem isn't the banner. The problem is players having a complete lack of perspective and wanting everything to be about them them them, me me me, all the time, 100%, every week. See the last 50 posts (or the majority of every page stretching back to the nanosecond the Nier banner went up).
The game is in a slow period following what was in the top 3 single spikes of interest since the game's inception. Criticize Gumi for timing that spike poorly and managing it incorrectly? Fair cop: I'd agree with you. I think Nier shouldn't have been announced at the first Fan Festa, FFXI should have released when GL got Nier, and Nier should have been announced at the second Fan Festa in a couple of days, then released the following week, sans Eve (or with Eve on the raid gacha).
But it's (past) time to let it go, seriously. If you want to play in the fields of Elysium where rainbows litter every 10+1, nothing's stopping you from playing JP. If you want to quit playing the game that you constantly, vocally do not enjoy, nothing's stopping you from doing that either (save, perhaps in both cases, the Sunk Cost Fallacy).
It's not likely to change next week either, if it's the FFXI raid. It's not going to change for some of you until we reach feature parity with JP. Spoilers: it's probably not happening this month. Or this year. Or ever, because by the time we reach parity with them, they're going to have something else.
I've been lurking on GAF for years and this thread was what got me to actually post. It was a healthy, fun community; it's now actively miserable to read. Some of that's on Gumi. But not all of it.
God I hope not. Say something Val!!!
Also I can't until I can finally unload some enhancement on Agrias. Going to be fun pairing her with Dark Veritas.
I want to thank JP gaffers for helping me through the trials. My next step is the dark esper trial.
crazyivan19
Member
Well said.
I will admit that I've been in quite a lull since Nier, but I'm also finding a rhythm with the game that actually makes it more enjoyable to me. I'm not in a particular rush for anything and am just having fun. Not getting the pulls I want? Meh, so it goes. Nothing in this next banner? Meh, I'm sure there will be something soon that gets me energized.
There are cycles in this game. If it were constantly revved up to 11, we would all be just as vocal with complaints because we don't have any "breathing" room. So take your breaks when you can, and let the hype train take you away when it arrives at the station.
Grabbed all available vault keys, now I'm 100% done with the story.
Losing Chilly was already a huge loss back then, he really was a fun dude!
Losing Chilly was already a huge loss back then, he really was a fun dude!
Gumi's going to have to do a lot worse to scare me off. Nier was bad because it was malicious (or rather, it revealed what were already malicious gold rates). Being evil and greedy is how you get me to quit and Gumi hasn't done anything evil for a while. This banner is just boring. I can handle boring. I just go to the earth shrine and get stronger.
Terrible news about Val. Hope he's just taking a break. He didn't post here as often but he updated his youtube channel all the time so I figured it was fine. Just as that was starting to pick up speed he's stopped that too?
It would be nice if they buffed the trial harp, isn't it only a 25% song? Could at least put it up to 40% to match the same dumb ceiling every other bard is stuck at. Aside from the bad reward how is this first zodiac trial? Is it gonna be a cakewalk for us or another cigarette brand?
Agrias enhancements are great! I've got plenty of 5* chainers now so I may not get her day 1 anymore but it's good news for a lot of players, including my partner. She just got Tidus too and has had Orlandu for a while so she's set.
Terrible news about Val. Hope he's just taking a break. He didn't post here as often but he updated his youtube channel all the time so I figured it was fine. Just as that was starting to pick up speed he's stopped that too?
It would be nice if they buffed the trial harp, isn't it only a 25% song? Could at least put it up to 40% to match the same dumb ceiling every other bard is stuck at. Aside from the bad reward how is this first zodiac trial? Is it gonna be a cakewalk for us or another cigarette brand?
Agrias enhancements are great! I've got plenty of 5* chainers now so I may not get her day 1 anymore but it's good news for a lot of players, including my partner. She just got Tidus too and has had Orlandu for a while so she's set.
Nah it's indeed the same as Ramza's song, so 40% all stats.
Also excited for Agrias I guess, I will be able to chain with Orlandeau/DV friends at last!
At the end of the day its just a f2p mobile game...no matter how much time/money a person has invested in it - its just a game. Taking a break or stopping it all together wont kill anyone...the person will still be able to play other stuff or be active on GAF.
Lets not talk like Valentus is dying....
Lets not talk like Valentus is dying....
I won't be quitting this game anytime soon as I'm having a lot of fun with it, in fact it's one of the games I haven't gotten bored almost immediately after 2 hours even with all the grinding and the gacha woes. I admit the Nier banner got me a little bummed seeing as A2 and 2B are limited units and also immediately became the strongest units in the game...but I can't complain much as I'm F2P. With the Agrias enhancements coming I'll finally have the chainers I've desperately needed in my party. Plus I pulled onion knight out of a daily so I'm pretty happy.
Also attempting to clear the trials have been pretty fun, even though for DPS I'm mainly relying on gaf friends right now lol.
Also attempting to clear the trials have been pretty fun, even though for DPS I'm mainly relying on gaf friends right now lol.
DXLelouch153
Banned
ID is in the playbookYeah...where is Val? :/
Yup! Congrats! What's your ID, I'll add you.
Hein the Mage challenge..."Enlist the help of Onion Knight and other memorable characters from Final Fantasy III summon to defeat Hein" lol...okay.
*opens Featured Summon DEVELOPER'S CHOICE* message....GILGAMESH!!! Okay now I'm in two minds, this is really exciting as I want a chance to get a Genji Glove so badly
i personally only play when watching streams
I'll be here til the very end. But i also hope Val is only taking a break. He's contribution to our community is tremendous.
Except Lorren's TM isn't an acc. It's an ability. Take note.
Except Lorren's TM isn't an acc. It's an ability. Take note.
CrimsonSquall
Member
Seriously I'm with with the quit complaining squad.
We know you're all huge whales, u will come back spending triple the amount in less than a month stop being so dramatic as it's killing the board.
I only see this negativity this strong on GAF, not on reddit.
We know you're all huge whales, u will come back spending triple the amount in less than a month stop being so dramatic as it's killing the board.
I only see this negativity this strong on GAF, not on reddit.
DXLelouch153
Banned
what does Pull for banners, not for units mean
i assume it means only pull if everyone on the banner is a good pull?
i assume it means only pull if everyone on the banner is a good pull?
- No raid. Instead we have a weapons trial who drops a useless weapon. Woo.
- I have 230% worth of trust moogles and don't know what to use them on. Everything for A2 feels like either a side grade at best or will immediately be obsolesced once I beat Aigaion. Maybe status resist for Marlboro? Dark Bond for Blood Moon/Erinyes/everything Gumi gives sky high DEF and Phys Resist? Deathbringer so I can have access to another element that is resisted by everything significant?
- Re: loss of interest - Gumi isn't helping themselves when they make original content and changes to content that doesn't have the loopholes for low-eco users to complete the content. Not only that, but the most recent original content had very mediocre rewards (looking at you Marlboro).
- Re: not catching up to JP - We've had 3 old stuff banners in the last 3 months (Dev's Choice, Marlboro killers, Awakened 2), compared to 3 from the first 6 months of the year (Gilgamesh killers, Awakened 1, People's Choice). Note that Dev's Choice is half of the People's Choice banner with Zidane swapped with/downgraded to Abel, so Gumi is essentially giving us a banner with our most wanted units from March.
- She has terrible base stats, terrible equipment selection, and mediocre passives. While I'd like it to happen so I can get some amount of value out of her, I'm not holding my breath. Enhanced Devastate would have to be given a truly ludicrous multiplier.
- I have 230% worth of trust moogles and don't know what to use them on. Everything for A2 feels like either a side grade at best or will immediately be obsolesced once I beat Aigaion. Maybe status resist for Marlboro? Dark Bond for Blood Moon/Erinyes/everything Gumi gives sky high DEF and Phys Resist? Deathbringer so I can have access to another element that is resisted by everything significant?
- Re: loss of interest - Gumi isn't helping themselves when they make original content and changes to content that doesn't have the loopholes for low-eco users to complete the content. Not only that, but the most recent original content had very mediocre rewards (looking at you Marlboro).
- Re: not catching up to JP - We've had 3 old stuff banners in the last 3 months (Dev's Choice, Marlboro killers, Awakened 2), compared to 3 from the first 6 months of the year (Gilgamesh killers, Awakened 1, People's Choice). Note that Dev's Choice is half of the People's Choice banner with Zidane swapped with/downgraded to Abel, so Gumi is essentially giving us a banner with our most wanted units from March.
- She has terrible base stats, terrible equipment selection, and mediocre passives. While I'd like it to happen so I can get some amount of value out of her, I'm not holding my breath. Enhanced Devastate would have to be given a truly ludicrous multiplier.
If it's a good banner, and you can make use of multiple units, whether team additions or Tm adjustments... pulling for say JUST Gilgamesh is usually a bad idea unless you've stocked a ton of resources or are a whale etc...
jasminlovesyoux
Banned
It's really tough to enchance characters I don't know if I'll ever use again because the cost is so high. I'd love to enchance everyone but the cryts are so hard to come by you have to really pick and choose. I remember reading about Gilgamesh and wanting to go for it, but all it does is take him to power levels that are surpassed by stronger 5* units that are enhanced even further. I just wish the cost of ability upgrades were drastically changed so we could take advantage of this feature.
Okay final decision....will go for Agrias instead of Gilga - sry bro.
Just dont see myself using 2x Giilga in a team anytime soon.
What is the BIS for Agrias ?
Hyped to finally kick some chaining ass on my main account.
Just dont see myself using 2x Giilga in a team anytime soon.
What is the BIS for Agrias ?
Hyped to finally kick some chaining ass on my main account.
DXLelouch153
Banned
Do keys just not appear in world until later? Wish this wiki told me that if so
CrimsonSquall
Member
Im at a gil deficit for Agrias, only at 400K bc I enhanced Luneth (sword master +2 now and cut through +1).
So what's the way to do it? Stop expeditions indefinitely and then do what? Like if I needed gil A$AP Rocky how would I go about it
So what's the way to do it? Stop expeditions indefinitely and then do what? Like if I needed gil A$AP Rocky how would I go about it
DrROBschiz
Member
We either need a Raid or Gil snappers cave
You could opt to level up friend summon units and sell them but that shit is so many clicks
iirc, very few keys were not available early game... ones from quests may not be obtainable at first?, but ones in chests can be grabbed immediately. you do however need to have the first quest active to turn in the keys~
Put Paul and Xon in a party. Clear out explorations and waylay everyone until you can't stand it anymore.
Best i can do for Agrias right now.
Abilities are LS Mastery, Blade Mastery, PoC and ATK+30%
and max lvl Odin.
Had to take away some shit from Olive to make it happen though..lol.
Ill see how the performance is on Friday.
I might use Pod 153 instead of Bracer though...less attack but would let my Agrias chain with other Pod users and not just DV/Blooms.
Also maybe Seal of Destruction instead of ATK+30% for more HP...hmm. We will see.
Edit:
Already asked above....but what is the best equip damage wise for Agrias right now ? Just wondering what i would need for max atk.
Abilities are LS Mastery, Blade Mastery, PoC and ATK+30%
and max lvl Odin.
Had to take away some shit from Olive to make it happen though..lol.
Ill see how the performance is on Friday.
I might use Pod 153 instead of Bracer though...less attack but would let my Agrias chain with other Pod users and not just DV/Blooms.
Also maybe Seal of Destruction instead of ATK+30% for more HP...hmm. We will see.
Edit:
Already asked above....but what is the best equip damage wise for Agrias right now ? Just wondering what i would need for max atk.
heres a wish list, kinda 5*heavy though...
2b katana, a2 / vargas greatsword, rider's helm, monster breastplate/ramza body since you're not using any of the veritas tm's, otherwise poc could be earth, and 30% could be dark
this is assuming you had all tm's just needing to be farmed of course >.>;
Hah thx...yeah i dont have A2/2B/Fohlen etc.
The only one you mentioned that i have is Sworn Six's Pride - Earth ...maybe i need to invest in it...i think i have two of him so it might be worth down the line.
StrikeNinja24
Banned
I just view this as a time to start TM farming, cause I've got a lot to do. Just got done Dandelga for awesome fire sword power.
Nier made me really salty though, until the units finally started coming. So I can admit it's easy to get mad at this game sometimes.
Nier made me really salty though, until the units finally started coming. So I can admit it's easy to get mad at this game sometimes.
This is mine with my best equipment.
Agrias 6 Star
FFBEDB Unit Calculator
Right Hand: Excalibur +120ATK+Light Element
Left Hand: Aigaion Arm +145ATK+100%LBFillRate
Head: Black Cowl +28ATK+25DEF+25SPR+100%Sleep
Body: Monster Breastplate +12ATK/MAG+46DEF
Accessory 1: Champion's Belt +30ATK/DEF & 20%ATK/DEF w/ Fist weapon
Accessory 2: Champion's Belt +30ATK/DEF & 20%ATK/DEF w/ Fist weapon
Ability 1: Dual Wield Equip two single handed weapons
Ability 2: Martial Arts Mastery +50%ATK w/ Fist
Ability 3: Use Grappling Weapons Can equip Fists
Ability 4: Emperor's Majesty +20%HP/ATK+3%MPRecovery
Pot Stats: HP: 450 MP: 75 ATK: 30 DEF: 30 MAG: 30 SPR: 30
Esper: Odin HP:5000 MP:3900 ATK:6000 DEF:4200 MAG:2000 SPR:2200
Total Stats: HP: 5939 MP: 278 ATK: 901 DEF: 404 MAG: 179 SPR: 194
Crit Rate: 10% P. Evasion: 0% M. Evasion: 0% P. Counter: 0% M. Counter: 0%
depends on how long you've been playing.
if you already have some chainers then just save up.
some people who don't have Tilith were pulling for Aria but it's debatable
LowParry
Member
I'll look over who I have. I just recently started playing again, just before the Nier event.
Okay thats sweet...reminds me that i really need to get myself some Champions Belt at some point - feel like they are part of every combo involving Aigaions Arms.
PS. Will we be able to get Yshtola again from the upcomming FFXIV Raid ? Still need her lol.
Erm...might be the FFXI Raid dont know tbh - just saw someone post about it on the last pages here lol.
Yeah but this time we can fuse their TMs together to make better TMs
Also it'll probably be a ways off still. We got to have the FFXI one first.