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Final Fantasy Brave Exvius |OT5| Our Golden Anniversary Brings Us Hope

Pejo

Member
Okay. I thought something was off about it. Man, these guys really suck....

Oh damn. I just read the maint. info and they really did go into people's accounts and remove those 5* units from their list. That's just...damn. Wow.
Not only did they do that, they also locked them out of the game for a few extra hours while they did it, lol.
 

Shouta

Member
They did that to the JP side as well when a bunch of STMRs was accidentally sent out to everyone instead of just certain folks, lol.
 
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Reizo Ryuu

Gold Member
Just realised I shantotto, lexa and seabreaze dark fina have tornado.
With jensen and rinoa I can have a full team of tornado chaining this way, guess I'll level them up a bit.
 

Reizo Ryuu

Gold Member
Pejo Pejo your wilhem allowed me to beat aigaion; that provoke plus his insane tankiness is amazing.
Had basch cover the magic damage, nichol doing whatever he does best and jensen, rinoa and lexa doing 15-30% damage p turn.
Took 101 turns, but glad I beat it.
 

Pejo

Member
Pejo Pejo your wilhem allowed me to beat aigaion; that provoke plus his insane tankiness is amazing.
Had basch cover the magic damage, nichol doing whatever he does best and jensen, rinoa and lexa doing 15-30% damage p turn.
Took 101 turns, but glad I beat it.
Congrats man! I'm glad he could help out. I just finished topping off his levels this past weekend thanks to the Deus Ex raid cactaurs, finally got him over 20k HP. Funny enough, I haven't even tried Aigaion yet, lol. I really need to take some time and go back and do challenges. I haven't even wandered in to the 10-man trial arena yet, and I think the last regular challenge quest I did was Octopus Teacher. There's always some TM I'm chasing before I try or a character I want to max out for them, then with Mog King events demanding Stamina, I never get around to it. I have over 400 NRG pots, so I think it's probably worth burning a few some ambitious evening.

Got my UoC ticket from MK this weekend, using only some Joachims and Kupipis with friend units for bonus, only running ELT. Wasn't as bad as I thought it'd be, and I still have some time to go for other items.

Free 10+1 got me my 3rd Helmet-less Kain, It's weird that the 7* system makes having either 1 or 3 of the same 5* base feel terrible. I really wish they made 7* awakenings depend on really rare/hard to get materials instead of dupes of the unit. STMR using dupes is fine, but I really hate the 7* system, the more I think about it. I read that they originally wanted STMR to require 6 copies of a unit, but JP rioted at that so they changed it to 4, is that true Shouta?

Anyways, they still haven't said how they're planning to get GL the 2nd monthly UoC ticket after the fan backlash, and we already know it's not a raid reward, curious to see where it's coming from. It better f'ing not be that arena ranking UoC. I will never ever see one of those.
 

Pejo

Member
So a bit of news this morning, plus Hyoh this Friday. We're getting 2 UoC tickets a month, but no real announcements on how yet.

Hyoh's got 2 step up banners simultaneously. I have enough lapis saved for 1 lap on the 25k one, I'm probably going to go for it. Booby prize is Awakened Rain who I was going to eventually UoC if I didn't get a dupe anyways, so I can't really "lose".

Also, some math out there this morning that shows that on average, 7* Fixed Dice Nyx can out-damage Hyoh, and he's in the upcoming awakening. I only have one of him, and I'm not going to do a UoC for him, but something to consider for you 2+ Nyx'ers.
 

Reizo Ryuu

Gold Member
So I'm guessing this hyoh is one of the units worth of using the ticket on?

That first step up seems totally not worth it, i mean a 5x rate up is still what...5%? Even if he's the only pullable rainbow 15% is pretty bad too.
The other step up is more than twice the lapis, but at least you get 2 guaranteed 5*.
 

Pejo

Member
Squall enhancements in JP are way stronger than I thought. He's back with a vengeance.
I'm sure Wazzy will be happy, wherever he currently is. I have a single Squall, but I'm not a huge fan of FF8 in general, so I probably won't UoC him or anything. Still, it's great to see an existing FF character get good enhancements.

So I'm guessing this hyoh is one of the units worth of using the ticket on?

That first step up seems totally not worth it, i mean a 5x rate up is still what...5%? Even if he's the only pullable rainbow 15% is pretty bad too.
The other step up is more than twice the lapis, but at least you get 2 guaranteed 5*.
The 11k lapis one is more of a gamble with more possible upside per lapis spent.
The 25k lapis one is a guarantee but a lapis sink

I wish they were one step up that mashed the ideas together, like each step progresses in cost/value, but starts at like 300 lapis instead of 5k.

Hyoh has a lot of upside for you with a fairly new account and an Orlandeau to chain with. Be aware though, you won't see a huge spike in performance because you don't have the equipment/TMs to bring out his real potential, so he'll be more like a good physical chaining partner for you in the short term. Difference is, he goes through a major transformation once you get 7* and some True Doublehand gear, and get an elemental weapon that fits his imperils, so he's more of a unit to grow into. If you feel that it's worth it now, go for it on the UoC (i'll be using mine if I don't get 2 in the step up, since I already have all the TDH equipment to make him shine), otherwise, it might be wise to sit on your UoC until you really hit a wall in clearing content or get a single 5* base that you really want that 7* of. How are you on tanks/healers right now? I know you have a CG Lid and CG Nichol, so you're good on utility units for a while.
 

Reizo Ryuu

Gold Member
Yeah I figured as much.
Jensen has already brought a lot of value, pretty much beat dragonlord with just your wilhelm and jensen.
Yeah I'm good on utility, even moreso since I have 7* lid ready and waiting.

The only tank I have leveled is basch, but I also have warrior of light, veritas of earth and marchenko. Though I feel basch is the best one I have.
Pure healers I only have rosa; my interim healers are rinoa and sephiroth.
 

Pejo

Member
Yeah I figured as much.
Jensen has already brought a lot of value, pretty much beat dragonlord with just your wilhelm and jensen.
Yeah I'm good on utility, even moreso since I have 7* lid ready and waiting.

The only tank I have leveled is basch, but I also have warrior of light, veritas of earth and marchenko. Though I feel basch is the best one I have.
Pure healers I only have rosa; my interim healers are rinoa and sephiroth.

Basch is a beast, very versatile and one of my eventual UoC candidates. If I didn't have a monster Willy, I'd probably be waiting for him instead of Hyoh with my first UoC.

I know it's not very exciting to use UoC on a healer, but Eiko has been an absolute MVP for me for so many things. Her 7* is one of my highest priorities, but she's amazing even at 6*. I mainly say this because she is a HUGE help for any mission regarding using Espers (since she can build esper gauge for free and summon any unit's equipped esper), she has a heal that is not a spell, and several that are spells, she can get rid of stat debuffs, she can buff LB fill rate for the whole party, full raise, dual white magic casting, dispelga and esunaga, etc. She's basically a monster for any story event and most challenge events. I know a lot of people got excited about Ayaka & CG Fina and the other big name healers, but they're all extremely one dimensional.

Maybe I put too much emphasis on slot efficiency, but I'm really lazy with building units and swapping gear/teams around to different characters all the time, since the in-game system kinda sucks to figure out best in slot. It doesn't help that they have all the special named effects that don't tell that they actually mean ATK+30% etc until you go in and read each one, and the names of materia are a total mess as far as being nondescript.

Anyway, we'll always (slowly) get more UoC tickets, looks to have settled in around 2 a month so far, so don't stress too much about it.

I decided to finally give Aigaion a try last night, using the Left-Right-Body method, and it was absolute cake. Can't believe I've been putting it off for so long. The hardest part was finding a non-elemental physical damage dealer friend unit to bring along. Wilhelm really makes that fight easy. Got all missions on the first try with Wilhelm, Eiko, Lunera, Raegan, Orlandeau, and friend Squall. If I was smart, I should have equipped some machine killers, but it wasn't a big deal. I also forgot that I had 7* Olive just sitting there on the sidelines. Whoops.
 
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Reizo Ryuu

Gold Member
Eiko seems interesting, the only summoner I have is garnet, but haven't leveled her at all.
Think I'm just gonna sit on the ticket until I hit a wall jensen can't break.
 

evangd007

Member
Spent the rest of my EX tickets this morning:
18 4* EX - Delita #3
72 3* EX - Balthier #2

- I heard 7* Balthier is good, is that true?
- the whole process on summoning then merging to get back below my unit limit took an hour. This game needs multi-ticket summons and an auto-merge option for 3*s and 4*s.
 

Pejo

Member
Spent the rest of my EX tickets this morning:
18 4* EX - Delita #3
72 3* EX - Balthier #2

- I heard 7* Balthier is good, is that true?
- the whole process on summoning then merging to get back below my unit limit took an hour. This game needs multi-ticket summons and an auto-merge option for 3*s and 4*s.
Yea I wish we had auto-merge, especially for shit like the raid cactuars.

Balthier is a top 3 finisher at 7* (In JP) I believe, so yea he's good. The problem I have with finisher units is that with the requirement of a buffer/phys tank/mag tank/healer, there's not really room for finishers anymore. Hell it was already tough enough to bring one before magic tanks were a thing. This is for harder content I'm talking, 1 turn KO strategies are always great with Finishers.
I did 2 laps of the Hyoh 25k and the 11k step ups, and got:

-6th and 7th VoL
-3rd Beatrix
-5th Elfreeda
-8th and 9th Tidus (both on the last step of the 11k banner, what a kick to the balls)
-2nd Awakened Rain (woohoo! off the UoC list)
-2nd Basch (yeehaw, scratch another one off my UoC list)
-5th Eileen
-1st Livid Shantotto (where were you last week! but I really wanted her for FFXI sentimental reasons, so I'm really happy)
-1st Hyoh (nice)

Overall I did pretty good, lots of rainbows at least. I have a Hyoh, so I'll just do whatever tickets I get on his banner to try to snag a 2nd, and if not, UoC him in 2 weeks. Gives me some time to finish up a few TMs for him anyway. I'm really stoked I finished out my tanks, I'll never need another one since I have the big 3.

Any of you guys pull on the banners?
 

Shouta

Member
Balthier isn't a Top 3 finisher in JP anymore. He'll be decently strong in 7-star for quite awhile but he's more or less the same, just with biger numbers.
 

evangd007

Member
Any of you guys pull on the banners?

I'm not as big on Hyoh as other because I don't have any TDH gear, but I'm considering throwing a chunk of tickets at him. Tickets are good on single 5* banners like this one and we don't get those often nowadays, especially since GL has a tendency to add second 5*s to banners that didn't have them.
 

green sticker

Neo Member
Old vet here. If you have me on your friends list it will explain my absence on here, but I thought I'd start dropping in again! I've had mostly crappy luck with my pulls. I finally spent some money on the game again to try and get Hyoh but alas, I got shit. Today I pulled 3 rainbows on the free 10+1, 2 dupes, 1 new. Dupes were my 6th(!) Merc Ramza, and 2nd CG Nichol. The new rainbow was Mediena? Not even sure about her?

Anyways, hope everyone is doing well and still mostly enjoying the game! I've been quite disappointed overall, but still continue to log in and play as many events as I can.
 

Pejo

Member
Old vet here. If you have me on your friends list it will explain my absence on here, but I thought I'd start dropping in again! I've had mostly crappy luck with my pulls. I finally spent some money on the game again to try and get Hyoh but alas, I got shit. Today I pulled 3 rainbows on the free 10+1, 2 dupes, 1 new. Dupes were my 6th(!) Merc Ramza, and 2nd CG Nichol. The new rainbow was Mediena? Not even sure about her?

Anyways, hope everyone is doing well and still mostly enjoying the game! I've been quite disappointed overall, but still continue to log in and play as many events as I can.
Welcome back! 3 rainbows in a 10 pull is pretty lucky in itself, can't complain about free. Mediena I believe is a decent magic finisher, but her TM is the big win there, it's like Loren's TM, but for mages. Also, got your 7* CG Nichol ready now, which is nice.

Finally got jensen to 120.
Best I can do so far.
Damn, not bad man. 1.3k ATK and wind element so you can elemental chain with Tornado. How does your Rinoa look?
 

Reizo Ryuu

Gold Member
Damn, not bad man. 1.3k ATK and wind element so you can elemental chain with Tornado. How does your Rinoa look?

My rinoa isn't as impressive, only 609 mag, but she still hits decently hard; I definitely have no other mag user that comes close to her.
 

Pejo

Member
I don't understand this estark boss. Guy wipes my team in the first turn cept for jensen, who follows shortly afterwards.
He casts some buffs before turn 1 that you have to dispel on the first turn or it's very difficult to survive. Then he imperils dark on you with that Lightning Storm move so ideally you want to dispel that if you can to reduce damage. Then he has a damage resist that lasts for 5 turns so just buff/heal your team and build Esper bar until the damage resists are gone. Then he has thresholds where he reapplies all his buffs.

This page has all the info and some videos at the bottom:

https://exvius.gamepedia.com/March_on_the_Lord_of_the_Underworld
 
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Reizo Ryuu

Gold Member
Wow, good looking out.
Nasty bugger. That dispel worked wonders.
Pretty much beat him easily in 10 turns with 2 tornado chains; one rinoa/jensen chains robs him of 65% life, which means if my rinoa was stronger I could potentially one turn him.

Too bad lid hasn't awakened yet, those double breaks would be pretty great for this.

edit: Finally got liquid metal slime of a ticket, have been throwing all of my tickets at the banner to get him, so I'm glad I got him before the banner expires.
 
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Wow, good looking out.
Nasty bugger. That dispel worked wonders.
Pretty much beat him easily in 10 turns with 2 tornado chains; one rinoa/jensen chains robs him of 65% life, which means if my rinoa was stronger I could potentially one turn him.

Too bad lid hasn't awakened yet, those double breaks would be pretty great for this.

edit: Finally got liquid metal slime of a ticket, have been throwing all of my tickets at the banner to get him, so I'm glad I got him before the banner expires.
Liquid is very good. Especially if you got carbon bangle, or if you get Chow's tmr. Very easy to get limit break for provoke.

I still don't know if the eHP values on ffbequip for tanks are using their 1 turn 90% dmg reduction or the lower dmg reduction they can hold every turn.
 

Pejo

Member
New summer units info is up, I'm not personally interested in any of them but at least they look to be decent units with decent TMR/STMR. I'm actually really shocked that they didn't go the normal Gacha game route of having the female swimsuit units as the difficult ones to obtain. I might burn a few tickets to see if I can get Skaha. This is the first time I can remember a FP unit getting an alt version.

Also - item world is back, burn those orbs!
 

Shouta

Member
JP had new units last night too. Folka & Citra as a double unit and also Regina a story character.

Regina is particularly interesting because her entire kit is buffing herself or doing various other things to power up her one attack which then powers up her LB. It's a pretty wild kit all things considered.
 

evangd007

Member
New summer units info is up, I'm not personally interested in any of them but at least they look to be decent units with decent TMR/STMR. I'm actually really shocked that they didn't go the normal Gacha game route of having the female swimsuit units as the difficult ones to obtain. I might burn a few tickets to see if I can get Skaha. This is the first time I can remember a FP unit getting an alt version.

Also - item world is back, burn those orbs!

Carrie the crossbow lady got a winter themed alt on the Christine banner.
 

EDarkness

Member
I'm a little bummed that JP FFBE had Nier units and I didn't get any of the 5* units. Not one. I got two rainbows, but they were both off banners of units I already had. I'm thinking I really need to give this up. All my resources were thrown at it and I got nothing to show for it. I guess it's back to saving.

I don't care at all for this current banner.
 

Reizo Ryuu

Gold Member
Is there some sort of cap on stat up %?
I've been testing how high I can go with jensen, but at a certain point, adding extra atk% materias does nothing.
 

evangd007

Member
Ramza 7* is better than CG Lid 6*, right?

Is there some sort of cap on stat up %?
I've been testing how high I can go with jensen, but at a certain point, adding extra atk% materias does nothing.

300% bonus is current max, so if you're there then look for +atk gear rather than +atk%. % counts unit passives, gear, and materia. DH (and TDW I think? someone confirm?) counts separately and has its own 300% max.
 
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Pejo

Member
Is there some sort of cap on stat up %?
I've been testing how high I can go with jensen, but at a certain point, adding extra atk% materias does nothing.
Yep! 300% for passives. After you hit 300% you want to go other sources of the stat. That's why everyone gets so excited about TDH and stuff. It's a separate calculation than ATK, so it stacks with those passives. Eventually the passive cap goes up, but not for a bit yet in GL.
 

Reizo Ryuu

Gold Member
Interesting.
But how does that interact with dual wielding?
For instance I have a materia that increases atk with 50% when equipped with a fist, does that mean dual wielding fists increases it by 100%?
Likewise, jensen's TMR increases atk by 30% when equipped with certain weapons, does it increase it to 60%?
 

Shouta

Member
ATK bonuses are once per item per materia. So in the case of a Fist materia, it'll only increase the atk by 50%. In the case of a materia like Jenson's or Loren's, it's once per weapon listed on there. So a wielding a Sword and a Katana would get you 60%, total.
 

Reizo Ryuu

Gold Member
That explains why fist + sword/gun gave me higher atk...
Seems I'm at 289% if I equip two fists and hit the cap at 319% with fist/gun; one of my swords being enhanced brings me way over at 331%.

This is good to know, instead of going for the absolute highest, I just need 11 more % on my second fist via the enhancing event; have 12% on it currently.
Though I guess going over frees up materia slots :pie_thinking:
 
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Pejo

Member
That explains why fist + sword/gun gave me higher atk...
Seems I'm at 289% if I equip two fists and hit the cap at 319% with fist/gun; one of my swords being enhanced brings me way over at 331%.

This is good to know, instead of going for the absolute highest, I just need 11 more % on my second fist via the enhancing event; have 12% on it currently.
Though I guess going over frees up materia slots :pie_thinking:
Another thing to keep in mind with Dual Wielders is that each hand is calculated separately for physical damage, even though the game adds them together for stat totals. Confusingly, this is not the case for Dual Wield magic/hybrid users, where total magic from both hands is used. This is why everyone popped a boner about Fryevia back in the day.
 

Pejo

Member
So they're adding a wheel we can spin to get lapis... yeah.
*after watching an advertisement, lol

Man I have been having no luck on that 90NRG bonus stage on the story event. I can get through the first two fights without issues but Intangir is ruining my day, and you don't get any rewards if you can't beat all 3 in a row. Pretty rough. Any of you guys able to beat it?
 

EDarkness

Member
*after watching an advertisement, lol

Man I have been having no luck on that 90NRG bonus stage on the story event. I can get through the first two fights without issues but Intangir is ruining my day, and you don't get any rewards if you can't beat all 3 in a row. Pretty rough. Any of you guys able to beat it?

I haven't done the story stuff in a long time. Can't brute force your way through with some 7* units?
 

Pejo

Member
I haven't done the story stuff in a long time. Can't brute force your way through with some 7* units?
I have a really stacked team and I still am getting unlucky with Intangir. I've been using 7* Wilhelm, 7* Awakened Rain, 7* Hyoh, Lunera, Eiko, and friend 7* Hyoh. I think my weak spot is Lunera, I'm finally seeing the pain points of not pulling for CG Nichol. I did get his summer variant off the Summer Ticket yesterday though, maybe I'll level him up and see if he makes a difference.
 

Shouta

Member
JP anniversary sounding pretty fun. They're giving out a ton of tickets for a special gatcha that gives a variety of things like pots, EX tickets, UoC tickets, and Trust coins
 

Pejo

Member
Apparently Intangir is exactly the same as Scorn of Intangir, so use whatever team you used there? I haven't done Scorn yet so idk.
Maybe I'll go do that challenge to practice. I'm really tired of getting to the last stage and having him do the "angry awoken" or whatever and 1 shotting my whole team.
 
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