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Final Fantasy [Mafia] |OT| Living in a Materia World, and I am a Materia Girl
- Thread starter ScraftyDevil
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Being caricatured into someone who is very engaged with the game is terrible, I hate it.
Hyperactivity
Banned
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Post 8, 10-14
That's like 5 short posts to go through
Sorian pls
I voted Xam to prod him and then he never responded and just kept up his bullshit. I didn't retroactively change my reasoning at all. I had my vote and then decided to keep it on him since nothing was changing.
But guess what? Xam is actually reacting to the game now! This is all I wanted. Though I want to make one thing clear:
Not a single person aside from Sorian has explained their vote on me. Not even Xam. They are all on the bandwagon. Everyone is a "me too" vote. Take that in mind.
Also, Sorian is saying I'm not engaging posts even though I sat here for an hour waiting for people to wake up. Then I took like... a 30 min break and people show up now. Good.
But let's not say I'm not a man of my word. Xam is in the game now, so my vote leaves...
Vote: Hyperactivity
to someone who needs it. What are you doing, Hyper? I think Seath is not helping either but I'm not sure about his alignment. I'd like you to get back with me about those Xam and Me reads.
But guess what? Xam is actually reacting to the game now! This is all I wanted. Though I want to make one thing clear:
Not a single person aside from Sorian has explained their vote on me. Not even Xam. They are all on the bandwagon. Everyone is a "me too" vote. Take that in mind.
Also, Sorian is saying I'm not engaging posts even though I sat here for an hour waiting for people to wake up. Then I took like... a 30 min break and people show up now. Good.
But let's not say I'm not a man of my word. Xam is in the game now, so my vote leaves...
Vote: Hyperactivity
to someone who needs it. What are you doing, Hyper? I think Seath is not helping either but I'm not sure about his alignment. I'd like you to get back with me about those Xam and Me reads.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
I'll agree with some of the first point, but again, different perspectives.
For your second point, for players I've never seen play as scum, I always assume they're going to try to coordinate their efforts and make it look like they are playing as good town. This involves in-fighting and posting good reads consistently. This is the behavior I would expect from UJ or Xam, specifically.
I don't know whether to be a part of this, but I think UJ has a higher chance that Xam if your guess that he's just hanging around is true. I'll monitor what happens and change my vote accordingly.
This is slightly off topic, but exactly! Players end up with different roles in different games, and they may want to change up their approach each time.
The same way I feel about UltraJay not throwing up a defense. Ultra still gives me the heavier scummy vibes pre-lack of defense.
Looks like he's given a defense. Maybe switch to Xam now?
Hyperactivity
Banned
What do you mean what am I doing.
With the way things are, I doubt we're getting scum today. We really are just prodding inactives and low post-count players. And tbh, I'm tired of having to write "Inactive, no read, he should post more." Seath hasn't fucking tried, and you guys are gonna have him go through the entire game like that, because scum won't be touching that one, and everyday after the first will have suspicious people
I'll switch to Hyper before Xam, you seem very set on getting votes off of Ultra for some reason? You were also there to make the lead on Xam over Ultra a lot bigger. Noted.
Eh, you posted a lot more after I typed that. As for Seath, I'd like for them to speak for themselves before I make a decision.
Hyperactivity
Banned
You'll be waiting a while
Curious that you aren't switching to Xam to try and help yourself. That free vote could be important though, smart. Wile the band wagon on you is interesting, it is all coming from players who I know tend to not be the best at explaining theselves. It;s not really uncharacteristic, Xam is voting to save his own skin.
I leave inactives to the vigilantes and investigators. We're scum hunting, not cleaning up the list so that you can write better reads lists.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
VOTE: Hyperactivity
Chasing inactives so hard is flaky reasoning. What do you have to say for or against yourself?
Hyperactivity
Banned
Vigs and investigators are 200% better suited for going after active players, because a scum team in charge of the conversation for the day is far more dangerous.
You fucking want investigators going after inactives?
Even vigs, there are multiple ways to approach that role
You yourself has stated that you don't have that great of a read on me and yet everyone has joined your conga line with no reasoning of their own. Of course I don't want to die. Personally, I was hoping to have a slightly scummy/low poster read to get scum off my back and you're ruining it Sorian.
I'm curious as to your voting behavior. Xam and UJ were both posting very little. Your argument for UJ looks like you were going out of your way to find a reason to lynch someone other than Xam. You really reached to find a reason to vote for UJ. I think they are both very similar posters, participation wise. I didn't find either more remarkable than the other. So, with UJ having defended himself, I'm curious why you'd still be avoiding Xam.
Yeah, I expected a OMGUS vote, which is why I'm not doing one. Xam is (or was) contributing (slightly) so I'm going to go after someone who is more likely to be scum. Because I wanna kill scum.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Killing actives creates more evidence. If an active is killed, the town immediately turns to reading all of that person's posts to focus on what they said to get themselves killed.
I want investigators and vigs going after whoever they feel is right, that doesn't change the fact that cleaning up inactives over night with PRs is an extremely viable strategy. You are trying to get a lazy vote in on Seath, you are eitehr trying to detract from a current frontrunner or just trying to seem useful over all.
Sorry to ruin your day, it's a fine line to walk. I'm not going to drop based on what you are insinuating though. You came off scummy. Ever since I voted for you, your defense has done nothing to make me feel better and has, at times, made me feel worse about you.
Because honest read is that he realized he had to change his playstyle to actually survive and help his team. At the moment, I am more certain he is town than scum, of course I am going to avoid him, fuck following along on your little bandwagon when I don't believe it at all. Pretend all you like but I explained myself on both players already, I continue to see scummy behavior from UJ and he has even just said himself that he was hoping being scummy would let him skate by so he is aware that I am right.
I'm not going to be the deciding vote on Xam, that'd be pretty scummy to do. I'd still like him to try and defend himself a little more however. Apparently he's packing now but he better be here for the deadline.
Sorian, I'm really going to disappoint you being town, aren't I?
Sorian, I'm really going to disappoint you being town, aren't I?
Unless you already know that.
Hyperactivity
Banned
Sorian, a lazy vote is a vote with the bandwagon
VOTE; UltraJay
that's a lazy vote
VOTE: Seath
People say I'm trying to distract from the frontrunners. I'm pointing out the fact that we're mainly voting based on inactivity, and if we're doing so, I'd really go after someone who hasn't even tried
What was the argument against Xam again? That he was inactive, posted fluff, and didn't have a defense?
I never asked you to follow my bandwagon.
Let's put something else on the table here. Xam pretty much slipped and stated he was a PR, alongside me. We both misread the opening post about role PMs and thought everyone had a named role. So, why would Xam skate out of the day without PR revealing with his neck on the line? Is it because he has a Chaos PR?
You obviously caught this mistake since you were posting right there. That's why I'm asking you why you're defending Xam, who elected to let himself be hung in favor of potentially role claiming to save his life.
Blargonaut
Banned
BLARGONAUT USED PHOENIX DOWN
LAST CHANCE FOR WHAT?!
WHAT THE HELL MORE COULD YOU POSSIBLY WANT
WHAT
WHAT
LAST CHANCE FOR WHAT?!
WHAT THE HELL MORE COULD YOU POSSIBLY WANT
WHAT
WHAT
Hyperactivity
Banned
Seath's gonna be here at the end of the game, because town will never lynch an inactive past day 1 and scum iwll never kill an inactive past day 1.If hes scum, I have to applaud him, he had the balls to sit there and do nothing and try and win the game
When did he do this?
When did he do this?
Yawn...
Shit, are we going to just lay this out in the open now? This is the "problematic" thing I was talking about. If a town PR or scum person was like, "Oh! So normals get job titles, huh?" It immediately outs them as anything but a normal town. It is why I tried my best to not mention it IN ANY WAY than the little tid bit I said. But Daryl is just blasting this info out to everyone who may not have realized yet.
You going to react to anything other than votes on you?
No, I just woke up.
Hyperactivity
Banned
I haven't even seen the post you guys are talking about, but let's assume what you are saying is true
You guys are illing to posssibly lynch a town pr, when any cop, or even better, tracker/watcher could catch Xam in the act...
You guys are illing to posssibly lynch a town pr, when any cop, or even better, tracker/watcher could catch Xam in the act...
Blargonaut
Banned
STAR WARS WAS PRETTY GOOD
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Hyperactivity
Banned
Ok, and we're lynching him for having a named role why????
Oh...
Tbh i noticed this about UJ (he's been pretty obvious about it though lol) but i did not notice this about Xam. Huh.
Xam hasn't really pushed it though, despite being on the chopping block. Then again, maybe it's just that he's not around. Looking back at the narrative connecting his posts though, it's possible that he's been trying to avoid the limelight because he's a possible PR.
Ahhhhh. I may switch my vote, but I'll go through Xam posts before i do.
Blargonaut
Banned
We have no idea how many town PRs there are. Probably a lot. So which is why I'm hardly afraid of outing myself.
Hyperactivity
Banned
You gonna actually respond? You know, contribute?
You might be town, scum will say they are town all the way up until the end. This post is a big appeal to emotion, it is what it is.
I'm not voting on inactivity, my logic on UltraJay has 0 to do with inactivity. You're putting words in people's mouths to justify your lazy vote.
You kind of did, also I wish you hadn't have drawn attention to anything involving this. I purposely pointed everyone back to Scrafty's post about ordinaries in a weird way to detract and so we could move on. Xam has an hour and a half, I don't expect him to go down swinging without a role claim but it is good that he is waiting. Saying you aren't going to be here around time doesn't mean shit.
Although I tried to detract, it was fairly obvious, scum has multiple team members, odds are one noticed.
Hyperactivity
Banned
He's the doctor, he already told you that.
Goddamnit Daryl, you are spelling it out for everyone who may not have realized what was going on! Even admitting here! Now we know there is a good possibility that you and Xam are either Town PR... or scum. Looking at people's reactions, you should have kept your mouth shut. Town don't know if it is scum or PR, but scum do. Good job giving them targets.
Right, so you do acknowledge the scenario and were aware of the obvious. So me questioning you here:
Obviously, you knew Xam has a PR. You weren't the least bit concerned of what Xam was doing. Letting himself die in such a manner without a fight. It's very concerning behavior.
Argh...i hate to do this, especially so close to the deadline, especially since he doesn't seem to be around but
VOTE: TheAwesomePossum
Inactive, not much contribution to the arguments, and the few posts he has are rather defensive, which is how i think Chaos would behave, especially Chaos members who are trying to skirt by.
VOTE: TheAwesomePossum
Inactive, not much contribution to the arguments, and the few posts he has are rather defensive, which is how i think Chaos would behave, especially Chaos members who are trying to skirt by.
Hyperactivity
Banned
You can say the same about everyone else?
The Xam voters especially, so far they have:
-is a named role
-posts fluff
-inactive
-didn't post a defense at first
It's gone from lynching an inactive to lynching a possible pr
And asides from you, iirc most of the UktraJay voters didn't really justify their vote (correct me if I'm wrong)
That's why I was more worried about a PR doing it than scum, but too late!