Xamtheking
Member
Also, just to remind the illiterate people like nin (love you nin), Day End was pushed back 24 hours by Scrafty
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Final Fantasy [Mafia] |OT| Living in a Materia World, and I am a Materia Girl
- Thread starter ScraftyDevil
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This is really stretching. I don't doubt there is a town alignment cop in the game because we have a known doctor miller. This came out after Hyper's reveal. He's basically confirmed town atm.
We have no one coming forth to counterclaim, there is little reason to doubt him. They could be buying time. I don't know. But taking a step to vote him out right now isn't rational because he's either telling the truth or the truth will come out eventually anyways.
Vote: Swamped
Additionally, I would not have investigated Blargonaut, as he always seems to be the recipient of unwanted night actions lol. He was one of my top candidates for being framed, if there is a framer in this game (and I'm assuming there is, that's the worst case scenario I want to work with). So yeah, those results would be unreliable.
I don't get what this has to do with it. Unless someone counterclaims Hyperactivity, based on Golbez's role text, there should be no reason to think he's not telling the truth. Unless you're secretly hinting that you're the real alignment cop, with which you should've just counterclaimed from the start yesterday and saved the doctor who would have been your gretest asset. Or you could have tried a bit more to defend him, rather than letting him slip into death.
I'm concerned why you're chasing Hyperactivity right now. It doesn't make sense. I would have investigated Xam, too, because Xam was acting scummy as shit.
As a funny meta thought, it actually would make sense if the alignment cop was Chaos. Since we kill doctors so fast, making a role to help ensure doctors survive is quite a twist. That role would essentially exist just to find Golbez, though.
Fuck. However, this would not fully explain the roleblock gambit if the alignment cop was chaos. We would also be fairly disadvantaged without our own cop. Hyperactivity being town makes more sense, especially with his outlandish name claim.
Fuck. However, this would not fully explain the roleblock gambit if the alignment cop was chaos. We would also be fairly disadvantaged without our own cop. Hyperactivity being town makes more sense, especially with his outlandish name claim.
At this point, cat is nearly out of the bag as far as roleclaims go. Doctor outed, cop outed, override outed, doublevote outed. I think we should demand one from Xam. Curious what Squall would do. If not today, tomorrow. Probably today. Fuxk it.
Top two scum candidates so far are Xam & Swamped.
Let's bring some hammers down and get some defenses going.
Top two scum candidates so far are Xam & Swamped.
Let's bring some hammers down and get some defenses going.
Xamtheking
Member
Lol, prior to today, I wasn't going to be able to make it to Day End again. Thankfully I now have that whole morning free. Planning to post more tomorrow as I'm doing less
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Do you have a response to Darryl saying your role is innocuous enough that you should roleclaim?
Xamtheking
Member
Need to google what innocuous means
Because Christmas dinner doesn't leave me enough time to type out a long post on mobile
Hyperactivity
Banned
I really really need to get my reads list out today, especially if I'm getting lynched today (I think the deadline is tomorrow morning?). I know I've been saying that for a while now...but things have been busy. Hopefully I can get it out as a late christmas present to you all
If I was 'posturing' why would I pick Hyper, the claimed cop, as a target? I would pick someone much easier to paint as scum lol, and god knows there are so many in this game...
I'm just gonna say, would it really be that hard to paint me as scum? Especially if scum know that I've likely been roleblocked? And will report a failure in the morning. I can totally see scum deciding that it would be worth it to try and get me lynched instead of nk'ed.
Give me an example of "easier" targets to paint as scum.
On intervening. I find this to be little more than an excuse. You voted sure, but you hardly tried to change the vote in either situation. You personally distanced yourself from both votes sure, you had your votes on a different person, so that when UJ/me flipped town, you could easily say "I told you so", but you did nothing to try and change the tide of the vote as a whole, and now you're trying to say "what did you want me to do". It doesn't take caps lock to make a convincing argument in defense of someone, especially if you have legitimate reason to believe in your argument
sorry to say, but "thinking" it means little, because we have no real reason to believe you're telling the truth. I was "thinking" UJ was a miller doctor and that Darryl had a double vote, etc. etc. That means nothing, because I never said anything. But now you're trying to retcon what happened, because while you never said anything, you were "thinking" it.
I'll agree with you on Darryl most likely being town for now, but I'm not sure I buy your reasoning. It reminds me of your reasoning in regards to your reads on Xamtheking and TAP; it's flimsy, doesn't stand on its own too much
If you seriously are dismissing the possibility of certain people being scum for some of the reasons you've provided, I'm not sure how useful you are even if you are town (which I'm personally beginning to doubt)
Honestly, with the miller, not really. I didn't really worry about a framer. While a framer is one way to curtail an alignment cop, given the miller, I'm expecting miller types, godfathers, switchers, etc. I outlined this in an argument with Sorian in this thread on Day 1 yesterday (if not, might have been in another thread) iirc. Cops can play it by going through the inactives, but I'd much rather check the "hot topics" so we don't waste days on them. On top of that, had Xam ended up being scum and I ended up investigating someone else, I wouldn't be surprised if I got lynched next, especially given how I stuck my neck out for him.
Of course, this entire conversation means nothing in light of my ability failing.
Swamped, do you have any reason to believe a framer might be in the game?
This is what I'm talking about in that your reasons being weird (mentioned earlier).
Zipped- 0 real reasoning
Terra- 0 real reasoning
Launch- he's ANALYZING posts. Really? That marks a town player to you?
Pop- eh, if you seriously believe I'm scum, this one is decent, I guess. But again, you dismiss him staying out of the limelight just because of that
nin1000- reasoning given: "Really hard to say"
Darryl- already covered the specific reasoning you gave for him
This reads like a scum player's read list imo. Because reads list for scum are more chores than anything else, and this stinks of that sort of attitude. You give the flimsiest reasoning to put someone on your town list, as if you don't really care about this list as a whole, you're more focused on posting it that having actual reasons for it
CURRENT VOTES:
Darryl (0)
Zippedpinhead
Hyperactivity (2)
Pop-o-matic
LaunchpadMcQ
Swamped
nin1000
Pop-o-matic (0)
Hyperactivity
Blargonaut (0)
Hyperactivity
LaunchpadMcQ (1)
Hyperactivity
TheAwesomePossum
Blargonaut
TheAwesomePossum (0)
LaunchpadMcQ
nin1000
Xamtheking (1)
Blargonaut
Hyperactivity
Seath (1)
LaunchpadMcQ
TheAwesomePossum
nin1000 (2)
TL21xx
Terrabyte20xx
Hyperactivity
Swamped (2)
LaunchpadMcQ
Darryl
TL21xx (1)
Darryl
Zippedpinhead
Terrabyte20xx (1)
Seath
Darryl (0)
Hyperactivity (2)
Pop-o-matic
Swamped
Pop-o-matic (0)
Blargonaut (0)
LaunchpadMcQ (1)
Blargonaut
TheAwesomePossum (0)
Xamtheking (1)
Hyperactivity
Seath (1)
TheAwesomePossum
nin1000 (2)
TL21xx
Terrabyte20xx
Swamped (2)
LaunchpadMcQ
Darryl
TL21xx (1)
Zippedpinhead
Terrabyte20xx (1)
Seath
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Do I?
Darryl said:
He's saying either your role is inconsequential or it's bullshit.
Blargonaut
Banned
UM
BLARGONAUT USED PHOENIX DOWN
BUT IT IT'S NOT OVER UNTIL THE UH, BELT LADY SINGS, HMM?
Terrabyte20xx
Junior Wrestlemania XXX Champion
Okay, looking at that clock, I might not be here for day end, so just in case I'm not:
VOTE: Zippedpinhead
Has had all of one post this day phase, a vote on TL21XX, which hid by sheeping Daryll. Sheeping in it of itself is not a bad thing, but for it to truely be a pro-town move it has to be accompanied by well worded reasoning in addition to ideas of their own. Zipped has done neither. If Daryll is town like I believe him to be at the moment, then it would make more than enough sense for zipped to follow him as he has taken up the primary speaking role in this game with the lack of Sorian.
VOTE: Zippedpinhead
Has had all of one post this day phase, a vote on TL21XX, which hid by sheeping Daryll. Sheeping in it of itself is not a bad thing, but for it to truely be a pro-town move it has to be accompanied by well worded reasoning in addition to ideas of their own. Zipped has done neither. If Daryll is town like I believe him to be at the moment, then it would make more than enough sense for zipped to follow him as he has taken up the primary speaking role in this game with the lack of Sorian.
StackpoleH
Member
I will try hard to be up for the end of day, but might not make it. So I'm going to put a vote down on Swamped as that's who I find most suspicious right now. I hope we find a mafia this time, no matter who ends up getting voted out.
vote: Swamped
vote: Swamped
TheAwesomePossum
Banned
Oh shit, I dunno if I'll be awake for the end of Day 2. I'll try to wake up in time, but if I don't...
Vote: Swamped
What Swamped has said is way more suspicious than my minor grievances with Seath's wording on his thoughts on Sorian.
I am also a bit suspicious of Xam. Telling us a bit more about your role wouldn't hurt imo. If Chaos really wanted to know your role, they would investigate it themselves during night phase. I have a hunch that there are two cops with Hyper being the one aligned with the Cosmos.
I'm voting Swamped instead of Xam for now because the latter promised that he will post more tomorrow. If I'm available again before day phase ends, I'll then make a FINAL final decision.
Vote: Swamped
What Swamped has said is way more suspicious than my minor grievances with Seath's wording on his thoughts on Sorian.
I am also a bit suspicious of Xam. Telling us a bit more about your role wouldn't hurt imo. If Chaos really wanted to know your role, they would investigate it themselves during night phase. I have a hunch that there are two cops with Hyper being the one aligned with the Cosmos.
I'm voting Swamped instead of Xam for now because the latter promised that he will post more tomorrow. If I'm available again before day phase ends, I'll then make a FINAL final decision.
Sigh.
The amount of role fishing that's going on in this game is really quite appalling. Although i Guess i really should take some of the blame myself of course. i didn't do a good enough job of convincing you all that Hyper is 100% scum. Because there can't be two alignment cops in this game. I refuse to believe that.
Either i get lynched today or i die tonight anyway. But a one-for-one trade between me and scum is actually not bad! Terrible for Chaos though
That's why i haven't been fighting that hard against my lynch.
You have to see all my arguments from my perspective. I KNOW that Hyper is scum, because we can't both be alignment cops.
I thought my real role was pretty obvious from the way i was posting, i thought people would pick up on it, but oh well. The amount of bandwagoning that's going on today, finding the scum should be a piece of cake. So i wish you all the best, would have been great if i was there though.
Zipped is a Warrior of Cosmos. I chose Zipped because he was quite quiet on D1, and his posts gave me an uneasy feeling. I wanted to check someone who wasn't in the limelight so i could trust my results.
The amount of role fishing that's going on in this game is really quite appalling. Although i Guess i really should take some of the blame myself of course. i didn't do a good enough job of convincing you all that Hyper is 100% scum. Because there can't be two alignment cops in this game. I refuse to believe that.
Either i get lynched today or i die tonight anyway. But a one-for-one trade between me and scum is actually not bad! Terrible for Chaos though
That's why i haven't been fighting that hard against my lynch.
You have to see all my arguments from my perspective. I KNOW that Hyper is scum, because we can't both be alignment cops.
I thought my real role was pretty obvious from the way i was posting, i thought people would pick up on it, but oh well. The amount of bandwagoning that's going on today, finding the scum should be a piece of cake. So i wish you all the best, would have been great if i was there though.
Zipped is a Warrior of Cosmos. I chose Zipped because he was quite quiet on D1, and his posts gave me an uneasy feeling. I wanted to check someone who wasn't in the limelight so i could trust my results.
How was i supposed to know the Doctor was about to get lynched???? I wasn't even online when UJ claimed! And even so, the risk would have been immense, especially if people still voted UJ after i counter claimed Hyper! And it looks like even more people voted UJ after the claim lol. It's not my job to make people change their voted. I'm not sure why you and Hyper are painting me as scum because i didn't fight hard for another player. I'm not a Town Leader by any stretch. I posted what i had to and voted the way i thought was best to save or PRs on D1. The rest was up to the rest of town.
We would have had so many claimed PRs. I'm not sure why you think counter claiming on D1 was a good idea...
Well, there it is. I for one wont be the idiot that does NOT believe you. Sorry hyper you ducked up.
Vote:Hyperactivity
Yup! Terra Branford, the Half Esper.
Really wish i could have remained underground for a while longer...i messed up lol...
I guessed it by your way of posting yesterday and not responding today, well. He forced you out and I think he is probably reading this. I hope your defense is good hyper or your shouting. To the other scum players. Let's see how you turn this into 'I don't believe swamped'
StarSketch
Banned
Let's see if I actually wake up on time this time.
Vote: Zippedpinhead
Vote: Zippedpinhead
StarSketch
Banned
Please no sudden roleclaims like last time guys
Top of the morning to you Nin! Glad I'm not the only one up early-ish on this fine day
May bahamut be with you.
YesNOnoNOYes
Member
CURRENT VOTES:
Darryl (0)
Zippedpinhead
Hyperactivity (3)
Pop-o-matic
LaunchpadMcQ
Swamped
nin1000
nin1000
Pop-o-matic (0)
Hyperactivity
Blargonaut (0)
Hyperactivity
LaunchpadMcQ (1)
Hyperactivity
TheAwesomePossum
Blargonaut
TheAwesomePossum (0)
LaunchpadMcQ
nin1000
Xamtheking (1)
Blargonaut
Hyperactivity
Seath (0)
LaunchpadMcQ
TheAwesomePossum
nin1000 (0)
TL21xx
Terrabyte20xx
Hyperactivity
Swamped (5)
LaunchpadMcQ
Darryl
TL21xx
StackpoleH
TheAwesomePossum
TL21xx (0)
Darryl
Zippedpinhead
Terrabyte20xx (0)
Seath
Zippedpinhead (2)
Terrabyte20xx
StarSketch
Darryl (0)
Hyperactivity (3)
Pop-o-matic
Swamped
nin1000
Pop-o-matic (0)
Blargonaut (0)
LaunchpadMcQ (1)
Blargonaut
TheAwesomePossum (0)
Xamtheking (1)
Hyperactivity
Seath (0)
nin1000 (0)
Swamped (5)
LaunchpadMcQ
Darryl
TL21xx
StackpoleH
TheAwesomePossum
TL21xx (0)
Terrabyte20xx (0)
Zippedpinhead (2)
Terrabyte20xx
StarSketch
Blargonaut
Banned
UNVOTE: LAUNCHPADMCQ
VOTE: HYPERACTIVITY
VOTE: HYPERACTIVITY
Zippedpinhead
Member
I'm conflicted! I like swamped and what she did "thanks, cheers, and much appreciated!"
But I also don't think we should lynch Hyper today. If swamped dies and hyper doesn't, then hyper needs to go, if hyper dies and flips cosmos then we know what to do.
So I'm going to vote against the person who still voted for me after even after swamped posted
vote: starsketch
I don't know even what would possess you to vote me, especially with no actual discussion. if you believe swamped, I'm cosmos, if you don't believe swamped shouldn't we test out her instead of trying to confirm by confirming action?
I have no way of knowing this because you vote bombed. You didn't even post a theory like terrabyte20xx. He's misguided but sometimes the white snow can be blinding.
So based on that I think you are scum trying to stir the pot a few hours before the end of day. That way you have deniability at the end of the day, but can have an impact.
But I also don't think we should lynch Hyper today. If swamped dies and hyper doesn't, then hyper needs to go, if hyper dies and flips cosmos then we know what to do.
So I'm going to vote against the person who still voted for me after even after swamped posted
vote: starsketch
I don't know even what would possess you to vote me, especially with no actual discussion. if you believe swamped, I'm cosmos, if you don't believe swamped shouldn't we test out her instead of trying to confirm by confirming action?
I have no way of knowing this because you vote bombed. You didn't even post a theory like terrabyte20xx. He's misguided but sometimes the white snow can be blinding.
So based on that I think you are scum trying to stir the pot a few hours before the end of day. That way you have deniability at the end of the day, but can have an impact.
Xamtheking
Member
vote: StarSketch
I agree with Zipped on this one, SS, you need to get up and respond
I agree with Zipped on this one, SS, you need to get up and respond
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
What exactly has she said that's suspicious to you?
Uh yeah. He promised he would post more, and that just means he's a townie that needs a little more time.
Hell, I won't be able to post much until day 9. Can you guys leave me alone until then? K cool.
Sigh.
The amount of role fishing that's going on in this game is really quite appalling. Although i Guess i really should take some of the blame myself of course. i didn't do a good enough job of convincing you all that Hyper is 100% scum. Because there can't be two alignment cops in this game. I refuse to believe that.
Either i get lynched today or i die tonight anyway. But a one-for-one trade between me and scum is actually not bad! Terrible for Chaos though
That's why i haven't been fighting that hard against my lynch.
You have to see all my arguments from my perspective. I KNOW that Hyper is scum, because we can't both be alignment cops.
I thought my real role was pretty obvious from the way i was posting, i thought people would pick up on it, but oh well. The amount of bandwagoning that's going on today, finding the scum should be a piece of cake. So i wish you all the best, would have been great if i was there though.
Zipped is a Warrior of Cosmos. I chose Zipped because he was quite quiet on D1, and his posts gave me an uneasy feeling. I wanted to check someone who wasn't in the limelight so i could trust my results.
The Zipped comment at the end is misdirection for when you flip scum.
The fact that you saved this roleclaim until you were pressed tells me it's confirmed bullshit, but I'll humor you.
Question for you, how does Terra fit as an investigator?
I think that SS is fishing for what she perceives are inactives. Nothing to see here, folks.
Xamtheking
Member
Blarg has been unusually quiet recently
Blargonaut
Banned
Blargonaut
Banned
Hyperactivity
Banned
Sigh.
The amount of role fishing that's going on in this game is really quite appalling. Although i Guess i really should take some of the blame myself of course. i didn't do a good enough job of convincing you all that Hyper is 100% scum. Because there can't be two alignment cops in this game. I refuse to believe that.
Either i get lynched today or i die tonight anyway. But a one-for-one trade between me and scum is actually not bad! Terrible for Chaos though
That's why i haven't been fighting that hard against my lynch.
You have to see all my arguments from my perspective. I KNOW that Hyper is scum, because we can't both be alignment cops.
I thought my real role was pretty obvious from the way i was posting, i thought people would pick up on it, but oh well. The amount of bandwagoning that's going on today, finding the scum should be a piece of cake. So i wish you all the best, would have been great if i was there though.
Zipped is a Warrior of Cosmos. I chose Zipped because he was quite quiet on D1, and his posts gave me an uneasy feeling. I wanted to check someone who wasn't in the limelight so i could trust my results.
Yeah, ok then
VOTE: Swamped
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Also, "role fishing". Hah.
Hyperactivity
Banned
Vote count?
Except at the time of Hyperactivity claiming, it was only me and Hyper claiming, that's a grand total of 2 PRs. And apparently, by your claim, Hyperactivity was lying. So it would have only outed one PR for one scum, which would have been an ok trade.
I just can't believe your defense. It is too long-winded. A lot of your messages framing Hyperactivity, like post 1139, offer scenarios that give him town points. Sorry if you are actually the cop, we'll get Hyperactivity tomorrow, but letting you survive today is impossible.