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Final Fantasy XV 'Dawn' trailer
- Thread starter PranooY
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It was okay but there wasn't really much context to form any meaningful attachment to the story they were trying to present. Whoever is cutting the trailers now seems to like throwing in a bunch of random scenes and hope they work.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
2 years and 100 seconds of baby holding and dad tears.
Lady Bird
Matsuno's Goebbels
The game throws those "fake words" at you before you even have a chance to learn them (with the starting CGI), and then takes around 1-2 hours before it offers the first explanation from Sazh, forcing you to disrupt the narrative flow and read datalog summaries until then.
It's hard to defend bad writing.
Hibiki Kurosawa
Member
Yeah, the Regis/Noctis scene was well done, but it wasn't good to make the vast majority of the trailer about it. The montage of scenes before it and the music worked for the first bit of the trailer for the most part, but then it cut to that scene while the music continued on as if it were in a different trailer. It was a really poorly put together trailer.
I agree that it's not very clear, and explaining doesn't make the trailer magically better, but the idea is this from my understanding.
"As the stars chose the son to be their light"
The gods (assumedly fal'cie that have appeared in previous games) have chosen Noctis for an unknown mission, which based on FF XIII (which is wrapped around the same mythos as FF XV) would not end well for the chosen one, no matter the result of his/her mission.
"The father could but hold him and mourn his destiny"
The father (King Regis) knows what awaits his son, but is powerless to do anything despite being a powerful man.
This leads to the scene where he (as the text says), can do nothing but hold him in front of the gods who have chosen the child to be their servant.
He can just assure the child (sleeping calmly, ignorant of his own situation) that he will always be there for him, no matter what. And this leads to the adventure we're going to experience in Final Fantasy XV.
It's a simple scene, but difficult to understand without the context of FNC mythos where this trailer really fails.
But someone said the other man was beating Luna because she wasn't chosen by the gods?
Guys:
Tabata just mentioned in a video shown on stage at Gamescom that the "Dawn" trailer is just a teaser trailer.
Also some concept art from the Q&A session:
Tabata just mentioned in a video shown on stage at Gamescom that the "Dawn" trailer is just a teaser trailer.
Also some concept art from the Q&A session:
Corleth the Fey
Member
I thought that was alright - I was expecting far worse given the reaction from some people.
As for it showing no gameplay - errrm, I dunno about you but I've actually played part of the game so have pretty good idea what the 'gameplay' is. SquareEnix are hardly holding it back from us.
As for it showing no gameplay - errrm, I dunno about you but I've actually played part of the game so have pretty good idea what the 'gameplay' is. SquareEnix are hardly holding it back from us.
DaSorcerer7
Member
This. And even worse, someone higher up actually thought it was okay to use it.
It sure does, in every cutscene in the game, at least three times per cutscene.
The l'cie / fal'cie stuff was really fleshed out and costantly in your face, like a bad acne case.
Though, you know what else needed fleshing out: the plot, the world, the lore, the main characters, the side characters and all the other NPCs.
FFXIII is a flashy shell of a game that takes the "tell, don't show" approach to its extreme limits.
Of course it's a teaser trailer rofl. I don't think anyone can deny that it was. Even as a teaser it was sort of shitty.
Hibiki Kurosawa
Member
A teaser trailer of a trailer/demonstration they are going to show later at gamescom? Or a teaser trailer that's supposed to tide us over for the next few months? If it's the latter, then that's no better.
Serious question: would it kill you to not find out until you play the freaking game?
Mr. Nice_Guy
Member
At least it continually hypes me up for the soundtrack.
Shadow_FFVI
Member
As a teaser trailer, it really wasn't. That scene had more emotion than the entirety of FF XIII X 100. That is more than enough for a teaser
They should have said it was a teaser trailer beforehand.
We will all see the trailer in a different light should Square release more exciting footage during their ATR.
Apparently I'm a casual for not understanding the trailer, so I want to level up and become hardcore. :c
Oh please. Don't extrapolate people's posts into this kind of shitty nonsense.
Red Blaster
Member
another troll likely concocted by shinji hashimoto
I had no problems with the made up terms and the story is indeed straightforward.
You also have 0 context as to why the shit that is happening is happening. Your party is running around like headless chickens for the majority of the game until a few bosses drop right in front of them, say a few words of exposition and then die.
I've never felt less connected to the world i was saving.
Anyway, i'm just saying i hope FFXV does a better job at connecting their lore to the storytelling.
A bit dramatic, man.
If you're curious, here's my layman's understanding of the context. Take with a grain of salt, because I'm 100% sure I'm going to butcher things, so much has changed over the years, and some speculation is required.
1). We've been told Noctis' family has a connection to a higher power or something along those lines, which incidentally gives some of them the ability to "perceive" death in some way. (I'd love for someone to clarify this.)
2). Noctis' dad, Regis, is inclined to be the last king of his nation. Keeping in mind point #1, it seems Regis knows he's not long for the world, and that the forces of destiny are conspiring to give his beloved son special, kingly if you will, responsibilities.
3). So that takes us to the infamous hug. Some feel it's a little much to show Regis hugging Noctis for ~3 minutes, but as he knows he and his son will only have so much time together, surely for him it may as well have been ~3 seconds. He knows little Noctis will have to endure a lot without his help.
literally no one knows exactly what is going on in the trailer except the development team.
Spare us the straw man.
Serious question: when are we gonna play the freaking game¿
Saori Itamuro.
LOL I love how people still deny it.
You know being a scenario writer doesn't mean that she wrote the whole game right?
xxdoshiyarovexx
Member
Guys:
Tabata just mentioned in a video shown on stage at Gamescom that the "Dawn" trailer is just a teaser trailer.
Also some concept art from the Q&A session:
looks like this is the king regis from old trailers? he doesn't look quite as disheveled.
BossDarkseid
Member
Yes, because twisting people's words or putting words in their mouth isn't something you did a page ago
Which was precisely my point and the reason this is a bad trailer (I can't feel emotional about something without any context).
Mr. Nice_Guy
Member
I agree that it's not very clear, and explaining doesn't make the trailer magically better, but the idea is this from my understanding.
"As the stars chose the son to be their light"
The gods (assumedly fal'cie that have appeared in previous games) have chosen Noctis for an unknown mission, which based on FF XIII (which is wrapped around the same mythos as FF XV) would not end well for the chosen one, no matter the result of his/her mission.
"The father could but hold him and mourn his destiny"
The father (King Regis) knows what awaits his son, but is powerless to do anything despite being a powerful man.
This leads to the scene where he (as the text says), can do nothing but hold him in front of the gods who have chosen the child to be their servant.
He can just assure the child (sleeping calmly, ignorant of his own situation) that he will always be there for him, no matter what. And this leads to the adventure we're going to experience in Final Fantasy XV.
It's a simple scene, but difficult to understand without the context of FNC mythos where this trailer really fails.
Thanks, I appreciate the perspective. Definitely adds some much needed context to the trailer. I'd say it's biggest failing is having anything to do with FNC, and not just going out and becoming its own thing. It definitely muddies things unnecessarily. At least at this point
well i agree with you. it isn't a good trailer at all.
Fleet_of_Foot
Member
I'm not disappointed by the trailer since I wasn't even paying attention to it coming out today. I am looking forward to the game, though. Based on the trailer, it feels like this game is still a long ways off.
Compare to the reveal and release date of Fallout 4, a game which is on the same scale of expectations and anticipation, and it just makes SE look silly. Fallout 4 was announced and is coming out 6 months later.
Compare to the reveal and release date of Fallout 4, a game which is on the same scale of expectations and anticipation, and it just makes SE look silly. Fallout 4 was announced and is coming out 6 months later.
hipsterpants
Member
That trailer sucked. About 30 seconds into the dad scene I was like "wait, this is totally the rest of the trailer isn't it." Who edits these things? And not even a release year at the end either lol
Hopefully the ATR isn't too awful.
Hopefully the ATR isn't too awful.
Dark_castle
Junior Member
New desert environment, and it looks barren on first glance. D:
Good stuff. Put here wasn't much to go on without context so I'm sure there is much more along the way.
Deserts tend to be.
I'm going to be optimistic and assume they aren't scrambling to throw something together.
SoraNoKuni
Member
I think "Please be excited" instead of "And so the story begins" at the end of the teaser would suit it better.
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GoldandBlue
Member
Man, the cast is still the one thing turning me off about this game.