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[Roman]

Fury/QR/Vantage could make him shine, seems good but only as bait. That's not killing anything thats not green

Factually incorrect.

The calculator gives 86 wins · 9 losses · 24 draws. He can even tank hits from (Silver Lance) Effie, Sharena and Ephraim and heavily damages them in return.

Let's be real. We'd all prefer lobster boy.

I don't think I'd really want a red tank in this meta. Not enough green melee to justify it. I already made a green brick with Michalis and Xander would have to have more or less the same build with a worse colour.

Not me and a large part of the player base that uses full Cavalry teams. With those buffs it barely matters what colors he fights and he fits perfectly alongside Cecilia, Reinhardt and Gunter.

With just Hone and Goad I get that build up to 106 wins · 3 losses · 10 draws.

 

[veloxStrix]

What are you talking about. It's not Armor Emblem when it lacks the best armored units from each color

I'm actually confused by what you think I'm talking about. ._.

Zephiel is an insanely good unit though. Probably the best standalone unit in the game, dethroning Hector? Although I guess with SI all the units are overpowered anyways.

 

[Ninferno]

To people who fail to feel us F2Ps' excitement about Xander:
We have been running Lucinas and Marths since the beginning and getting screwed by Ninos and Julias for far too long. We need a quicker and dirtier way to get rid of these cuties mfkers.

Xander's going to need lots of SI though, given how lackluster his innate skills are (besides Siegfried of course). Long SP grinding ahead. Though he also comes at 3*, I'm not going to spend that 2k feather so I will be starting training from 4*. Also, lots of sacrifices are going to happen...

 

[_Legacy_]

Beat Zephiel first try with Nino, MRobin, Azura and Effie. To be honest could have just done it without the latter. It was pretty much hit and run with Nino and MRobin with Azura making sure I was always out of reach from the armored units.

 

[Ninferno]

I'm actually confused by what you think I'm talking about. ._.

Zephiel is an insanely good unit though. Probably the best standalone unit in the game, dethroning Hector? Although I guess with SI all the units are overpowered anyways.

Don't mind me; I was just kidding. I meant fully wary-fightered, color-balanced armor team was already a thing long before Zephiel.

 

[ggx2ac]

In case, for people that are concerned when merging units.

I merged my 40+2 Lyn to my level 1 Lyn, when it shows the resulting Lyn before you confirm it to continue, if you press on the icon of the resulting Lyn, for me it would have been Level 1+3, it will show her stats and skills she has. So I would know ahead of time that she keeps the other one's inherited skills including all skills that haven't been learnt yet.

Good things come to those who wait I suppose. She wasn't what I wanted but I'm not gonna look a gift horse in the mouth.

I just got her too, again. Now I'll have a level 40+3 Lyn: Speed Up, Res Down.

And I got a Sanaki for the first time, Speed Up, HP Down.

 

[CountAntonius]

Blue just hates me. I can never get a blue unit I want. There goes another 100 stones.


-ATK Fredrick to shit on my grave. Thanks. Please do away with these stupid fucking IV's already.

 

[Roman]

To people who fail to feel us F2Ps' excitement about Xander:
We have been running Lucinas and Marths since the beginning and getting screwed by Ninos and Julias for far too long. We need a quicker and dirtier way to get rid of these cuties mfkers.

Xander's going to need lots of SI though, given how lackluster his innate skills are (besides Siegfried of course). Long SP grinding ahead. Though he also comes at 3*, I'm not going to spend that 2k feather so I will be starting training from 4*. Also, lots of sacrifices are going to happen...

All he needs is Quick Riposte 2, Moonbow and Fury 3. He's an honest game changer in my eyes.

 

[toastyToast]

Not me and a large part of the player base that uses full Cavalry teams. With those buffs it barely matters what colors he fights and he fits perfectly alongside Cecilia, Reinhardt and Gunter.

With just Hone and Goad I get that build up to 106 wins · 3 losses · 10 draws.

I guess if you threw another 10 attack and speed at him I could see your point. He's almost the same as Eldigan stat-wise without fury baked in plus distant counter. Not too bad now that I think about it

With my horse team I used his garbage brother Leo as my red unit and he's unbelievably trash. Not sure what they were thinking with his stat spread. Tried to roll for Reinhardt and failed miserably.

 

[Roman]

I'm actually confused by what you think I'm talking about. ._.

Zephiel is an insanely good unit though. Probably the best standalone unit in the game, dethroning Hector? Although I guess with SI all the units are overpowered anyways.

Zephiel is not even as good as Draug.

I guess if you threw another 10 attack and speed at him I could see your point. He's almost the same as Eldigan stat-wise without fury baked in plus distant counter. Not too bad now that I think about it

With my horse team I used his garbage brother Leo as my red unit and he's unbelievably trash. Not sure what they were thinking with his stat spread. Tried to roll for Reinhardt and failed miserably.

Just run some calculations against common metagame threats, especially on enemy phase with Quick Riposte, and with at least one of the Cavalry buffs. Xander seriously does not disappoint.

 

[_Legacy_]

Having real trouble going flawless this week, might have to switch Alm for Cherche to go with my Nino, Effie and Azura. Hectors are really annoying me this week. Just need to level my Cherche to 40 first.

 

[Shinypogs]

I have finally met a lunatic hero challenge that fem corrin and merric can't overcome. Merric can't one shot the blue mage and spring camilla with ta2 is like seven dmg short despite being +atk and buffed by hone atk and the seal.

Every other unit can be dealt with via dancing and a careful application of debuffs and specials but just as i am about to win that 7 health blue mage snipes someone.

I'm going to have to see if I can't raise a niles or maybe a linde or something to snipe that fucker over the next few days.

 

[_Legacy_]

Just got completely wrecked by a flier emblem team, they all had hone/goad fliers and it was impossible to beat them with my team, I would have had a chance if two of their units didn't have reposition. They were all at least +1 to +3 as well.

Going to pull for some units to make myself feel better, or not! Taking a break from arena now, I'll focus on levelling up my units. Down to 3 dueling swords as well now.

 

[Ninferno]

All he needs is Quick Riposte 2, Moonbow and Fury 3. He's an honest game changer in my eyes.

Correct. And that's 400 (Siegfried) + 225 + 450 + 525 = 1700 SP right there. And let's be honest, we as human beings will always want to make sure we have done our best before bringing in a new unit to the arena so slapping on Reposition and Hone/Fortify Spd/Atk/Calvary is pretty much inevitable too. That's another 225 + 525 = 750 SP

 

[Roman]

Just got completely wrecked by a flier emblem team, they all had hone/goad fliers and it was impossible to beat them with my team, I would have had a chance if two of their units didn't have reposition. They were all at least +1 to +3 as well.

If the lead unit was Sanaki, I got destroyed by the same thing a couple days ago.

 

[_Legacy_]

If the lead unit was Sanaki, I got destroyed by the same thing a couple days ago.

This was a Palla, Cordelia, Camila and Catria. I couldn't do a damned thing, the map didn't help either, trees everywhere so they had a huge advantage.

 

[Roman]

Correct. And that's 400 (Siegfried) + 225 + 450 + 525 = 1700 SP right there. And let's be honest, we as human beings will always want to make sure we have done our best before bringing in a new unit to the arena so slapping on Reposition and Hone/Fortify Spd/Atk/Calvary is pretty much inevitable too. That's another 225 + 525 = 750 SP

Reposition is not really that important on Horse Emblem but you have a point. However if you go from 3* to lv40 in every rarity it should leave you with 1800-2000 SP. Yes, it's a long grind, but still better than SP grinding with maxed 5*s, and you can use him for other quests. What else are we doing with our stamina in this game right now? Ryoma isn't in a much better position on this because he can only start at 5* and needs all his skills except the weapon and maybe C slot replaced.

This was a Palla, Cordelia, Camila and Catria. I couldn't do a damned thing, the map didn't help either, trees everywhere so they had a huge advantage.

I fought one with Sanaki as the lead that masked a merged Camilla, Shanna and Hinoka. All had Hone/Goad Fliers and Reposition. It was the forest map.

I wasn't even upset because I respected the masterful baiting.

 

[Cerium]

GHB was easy.

I just ran into a fully loaded Horse Emblem with Cecilia, Ursula, and Leo.

All of them had Vantage, Close Fucking Counter, -Blade Weapons, and Fortify/Goad Cavalry.

It was a shitty map for me too but I managed to win losing only one hero. I'll take it.

 

[The_White_Rose]

Trying to pull for 5 star Nowi, get Azura ... I'm okay with this.

 

[CountAntonius]

My Young Tiki has Moonbow and Fury should i use Adult Tiki's Lightning Breath+ and or Swordbreaker on her?

Just finished up my Hector with Bonfire, Wings of Mercy and Spur Atk now working on Tiki.

 

[Scum]

So. A character with Moonbow can learn Luna, but a character with Luna can't learn Moonbow, right?

 

[Ninferno]

So. A character with Moonbow can learn Luna, but a character with Luna can't learn Moonbow, right?

A character with Luna can also learn Moonbow. Both Luna and Moonbow are level 2 skills. They have a common level 1 prerequisite that is New Moon.

 

[Ninferno]

Mkv. aka the "using 3* free HB units to beat GHB" madman is back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-uTUCZewWw

A pretty entertaining watch. Perfect use of space and vanilla 3* units.

 

[Scum]

A character with Luna can also learn Moonbow. Both Luna and Moonbow are level 2 skills. They have a common level 1 prerequisite that is New Moon.

Ninferno, mate. Cheers for waking me up. I have Eirika with Moonbow and Ninian with Luna. I was racking my brains as to why I could inherit Luna from Ninian but Ninian couldn't inherit Moonbow from Eirika. I've only just noticed that I do indeed have Moonbow for Ninian, I'm just 99SP away from learning it.

I'll hand in my Fire Emblem badges on my way out. #Embarassed

 

[Shinypogs]

2 hours later linde solves all my problems. Sadly im swimming in mages and blues or I'd add her to the team. Time to work on getting zeph ready for prime time.

 

[Mupod]

Just did the Zephiel map with ease...I thought they'd have something sneaky on the armor units but nope. Just Wary Fighter. Nino, Linde and Olivia bullied everybody while Lucina stood in a corner.

Anyways, as expected they didn't go with a Binding Blade themed banner, but I thought they'd at least have one character. Now I'm worried that we won't see Ryoma in Xander's. Either way, still hype for Xander as something to deal with green mages.

Current banner is amazing if you need blue magic damage. I do not, so I'll keep saving. Nowi and Reinhardt are both incredibly strong units, but I've just pulled on blue so damn much.

But Im at 3.5%...

I was like you once. But then I hit 5.5 and 6.0 on different occasions and I understand now that number is bullshit.

 

[Achtius]

I HATE This banner, 10 summons Deep and only 3* every time

Used all my orbs (which I was saving for Ike banner), no Reinhardt for me either

 

[Scum]

Mkv. aka the "using 3* free HB units to beat GHB" madman is back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-uTUCZewWw

A pretty entertaining watch. Perfect use of space and vanilla 3* units.

Saw it earlier. Amazing stuff.

 

[Roman]

Just did the Zephiel map with ease...I thought they'd have something sneaky on the armor units but nope. Just Wary Fighter. Nino, Linde and Olivia bullied everybody while Lucina stood in a corner.

Anyways, as expected they didn't go with a Binding Blade themed banner, but I thought they'd at least have one character. Now I'm worried that we won't see Ryoma in Xander's. Either way, still hype for Xander as something to deal with green mages.

In a case like this I am perfectly happy to have been wrong on the banner contents. This is their best Battling banner yet.

 

[Hours Left]

Blue just hates me. I can never get a blue unit I want. There goes another 100 stones.


-ATK Fredrick to shit on my grave. Thanks. Please do away with these stupid fucking IV's already.

Do you have a 3 or 4 star Frederick with a good nature? He's an extremely viable unit that a lot of people are sleeping on, so if you want to invest in him, promoting a lower rarity Fred with a good spread to 5* and then merging your -ATK version into the better one could be worth the resources.

 

[Man-is-Obsolete]

Got lucky finally on my main account. Got two 5* Nowi, one is +res/-spd (boo) the other is +def/-res, and a 5* Reinhardt (+hp/-spd).

The second Nowi I think I can pair with Eirika and Ninian's fortify dragon and do really well. Any recommendations on how to best build her?

 

[Ninferno]

Got lucky finally on my main account. Got two 5* Nowi, one is +res/-spd (boo) the other is +def/-res, and a 5* Reinhardt (+hp/-spd).

The second Nowi I think I can pair with Eirika and Ninian's fortify dragon and do really well. Any recommendations on how to best build her?

TA3 + QR2 for me, one-shotting Lucinas and Ryomas, and countering Takumis and Ephraims into oblivion can't be more satisfying.

Some people likes swordbreaker which is a solid choice too but I think TA3 + QR is overall a more versatile build and can handle more situations. Sword users other than Falchions do little to no damage to TA3 Nowi anyway so it doesn't matter if they hit you once or twice. And you can one shot Lucinas with TA3 in most cases before she can double you; you may need some buffs to oneshot Marths but that's a rare case.

 

[Mupod]

Mkv. aka the "using 3* free HB units to beat GHB" madman is back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-uTUCZewWw

A pretty entertaining watch. Perfect use of space and vanilla 3* units.

rip Subaki. But I figured he wouldn't have much use on this map.

 

[Roman]

TA3 + QR2 for me, one-shotting Lucinas and Ryomas, and countering Takumis and Ephraims into oblivion can't be more satisfying.

Some people likes swordbreaker which is a solid choice too but I think TA3 + QR is overall a more versatile build and can handle more situations. Sword users other than Falchions do little to no damage to TA3 Nowi anyway so it doesn't matter if they hit you once or twice. And you can one shot Lucinas with TA3 in most cases before she can double you; you may need some buffs to oneshot Marths but that's a rare case.

With TA3 even Falchions should break against her. I have to leave now so I can't show the calculations but from memory even Lucina fails to get her below 50% with Luna.

 

[ggx2ac]

At 28 Defense wins currently. I may have something to adjust it but if it doesn't allow me to prevent others outranking me because it's low on BST I'll have to try something else.

 

[Mupod]

I think I have 8 defenses. I don't actually care past the first one, when I have time I want to create a joke team to swap in once I have that win. But it'd have to be in a matchmaking range that people would actually come up against, so I can't just put 3 level 1 Wrys-es.

I could put my heavily inherited Hector out front to drag up my rating and have the rest of the team be 3 Subakis. I'd imagine a team where everyone has Swap would be funny to watch since the AI uses that stuff for no reason.

 

[spiritfox]

...

I know I should count myself lucky but...

Reinhardt is +Spd, and I have a 4* that's +Att...

Jakob is trash...

Fuck.

 

[Ninferno]

With TA3 even Falchions should break against her. I have to leave now so I can't show the calculations but from memory even Lucina fails to get her below 50% with Luna.

Lucina has a neutral attack of 50, effectively 45 when attacking a TA3 Nowi. Nowi's neutral defense is 30 so that's 15 per hit. If you suffer two hits it is still pretty substantial damage. Fortunately a neutral TA3 Nowi's effective 63 magic attack against a neutral Lucina oneshots her so that 2nd hit isn't going to happen in the first place. Now, with merge and Fury it is a bit more tricky but there're always Atk buffs and such. That's why I said "in most cases" only.

 

[kewlmyc]

Beat Zephiel first try with Nino, MRobin, Azura and Effie. To be honest could have just done it without the latter. It was pretty much hit and run with Nino and MRobin with Azura making sure I was always out of reach from the armored units.

Lol, that was my exact team.

 

[Firemind]

Zephiel!

YASS KING

 

[commish]

Up to 4798 in arena. Think this is my max unless I start +1'ing units. Watching Lukas tank 3 melee in a row and suffer 0 damage will never get old. I think he will be on my team even after the bonus period.

 

[Alucrid]

hm i was at rank 31k when i did my arena run earlier this week, but now i'm at 24k. i'll take the extra feathers but i don't get how i moved up

 

[veloxStrix]

Zephiel is not even as good as Draug.

In what world? This guy naturally beats SI Lucina, Hector, and only loses to units that every other armor unit is going to have issues with anyways. Draug has lower stats in everything except Speed. Except his base speed is 32. You know what you are doubling with 32 speed? Nothing. You know what you are stopping from doubling you? Still less things than Wary Fighter.

As far as SI goes, pull Life and Death off of him and slap on Distant Counter and Threaten Attack? He beats Linde. He beats a good SI Linde even. Unit is nuts.

 

[spiritfox]

Well that was easy.

 

[Sterok]

Stomped Zephiel with Nino, Robin, Olivia, and Eirika. Mage Emblem rules yet again, and Nino finally finished her mission after all these years.

 

[Mupod]

hm i was at rank 31k when i did my arena run earlier this week, but now i'm at 24k. i'll take the extra feathers but i don't get how i moved up

It takes a few hours for rankings to update.

 

[_Legacy_]

Up to 4798 in arena. Think this is my max unless I start +1'ing units. Watching Lukas tank 3 melee in a row and suffer 0 damage will never get old. I think he will be on my team even after the bonus period.

I wanted Lukas, got Clair instead in the pull. What team are you running? I'm struggling to get Alm involved in my games, unless there is a Hector. I run Nino, Effie, Azura and Alm.

 

[Man-is-Obsolete]

TA3 would have to come from my Roy! He's been with me so long. He is falling out of usefulness lately though.

I wonder if I can just cover her Res bane for now with Res 3 and put Quick Riposte on her. Falchion units haven't been as prevalent lately and I have Bunnicina to cover that weakness. With fortify dragons and Quick Riposte she can still take a hit and even kill a few green melee, and boosting Res can help her in trading with other dragons and blue mages.

 

[Sushen]

In case, for people that are concerned when merging units.

I merged my 40+2 Lyn to my level 1 Lyn, when it shows the resulting Lyn before you confirm it to continue, if you press on the icon of the resulting Lyn, for me it would have been Level 1+3, it will show her stats and skills she has. So I would know ahead of time that she keeps the other one's inherited skills including all skills that haven't been learnt yet.

How about stats? Did you get to keep those added numbers in stats that + unit had?

 

[Firemind]

In what world? This guy naturally beats SI Lucina, Hector, and only loses to units that every other armor unit is going to have issues with anyways. Draug has lower stats in everything except Speed. Except his base speed is 32. You know what you are doubling with 32 speed? Nothing. You know what you are stopping from doubling you? Still less things than Wary Fighter.

As far as SI goes, pull Life and Death off of him and slap on Distant Counter and Threaten Attack? He beats Linde. He beats a good SI Linde even. Unit is nuts.

The problem will be to let him inherit Distant Counter. If I had a Hector lying around though...