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First Horizon review [Engadget]
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Eolz
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Or are we talking games only? Depends on how mainstream new Lara is (definitely not as much as Classic Lara).
More_Badass
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Yes. A reviewer is nothing more than an opinion about a game. Yours or my impressions are no more or less valid than a review from a site. They're just people who played the game too, with a louder voice to share that opinion (and ideally better writing skills to convey how they feel)
And I say that as someone who writes about game.
RealityPales
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A review embargo set 8 days before launch is surely a good sign...
gundamkyoukai
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All a review for a game is a opinion since so much of it is subjective .
Plus she talk about more than one aspect of the game.
Truth is i forgot about her lol
Still i think Katniss is first one that would come to people mind .
So has gaf breaken the embargo yet by hosting a spoiler thread where someone are posting his opinion on the game while playing it?
Riposte
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Whatever aspect the writer chose to focus on, the overall piece is borderline infantile. The most competent parts of it are the highly cliche ambiguities I assume most writers would be embarrassed to write and the worst involves sentimental nonsense I assume most humans would be embarrassed to write. This review is awful. It's awfulness incarnate. I read it a half hour ago, thought I would move on, but I can't get over how bad it is. The author literally says they want to be real life friends with the main character.
No gaming review has affected me this way since that horrible Dead Space 3 one (or was it Dead Space 2?).
StereoVsn
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Exactly. I have seen posts on gamefaqs with more meat to them. Even for newcomers to Open World games or RPGs that review doesn't say anything.
More_Badass
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Those people arent under embargo...
Kenzodielocke
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I may not end up meshing with the reviewer's take, but maaaan this is encouraging. I think the obvious criticisms in older Guerilla titles would stand out even to fresh eyes if they were present here. It's hard to look at a take like this and go "boy, that doesn't sound fun to play."
DriftingSpirit
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Really?
The longest of the two paragraphs about gameplay is the one where she says she started texting on here phone while waiting for the encounted to finish?
Triggerhappytel
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Do you think there's an ongoing reason she's compared to Katniss, Lara and Hermione? As opposed to Legolas, Nathan Drake and Harry Potter?
Yeah as others mentioned Merida or Ygritte. Non-female, aside of Legolas, even Rambo is someone I think about first.
But I really didn't want to start an argument about that. It's just that if the reviewer first thinks about characters like Katniss, which is a main character in a (in my opinion) pretty bad story made for young adults (the same target audience as the HP books) it says something about her story preference. This followed by the gushing of superlatives (which is typical for the audience that likes these young adult stories), makes me think the story is more in line with the expectations of that kind of target audience. But these are all assumptions ofcourse.
More_Badass
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And? That's a common sentiment/phrase when talking about the likability (or not) of a character. If someone describes a character as the kind of person you'd want to have a beer with to hear their stories, or the kind of person you wouldnt want to meet in a dark alley, and so on....that's like common turn of phrase for any medium
It says nothing about the quality of stories or target audience, and everything about how well known a character is
My 50 year old father knows who Katniss is
I'm not getting much out of this review tbh. It's interesting that she likes the protagonist, how many times does this actually happen in video games? That's great! That gives me hope! But I'm cautious on the open world part. I've played too many of those games already. I don't want this to be "another one of those". I hope I won't be disappointed and that it will be as special as it looks.
Jawbreaker
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Clearly the game sucks, but the reviewer being a woman (probably a feminist SJW, I mean, look at her!) blinds her to all of its obvious flaws, hence why she only focuses on the main character and story elements. She also has a shallow taste in movies and games as evidenced by her comparisons, so she only enjoys the game because it conforms to that shallowness.
Trash review, invalid, worthless. Will wait for a real man with experience in what really matters in REAL GAMES to tell me how fun it is to destroy shit.
Trash review, invalid, worthless. Will wait for a real man with experience in what really matters in REAL GAMES to tell me how fun it is to destroy shit.
gundamkyoukai
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She talk how she can upgrade her weapon and skills and gave a gameplay eg , also about gfx and loading .
Yes she did not go into detail but like i said a review is a opinion and what a person like about a game the most .
I don't even like hunger games but Katniss is also the first female that came to my mind when it comes to archery.
So i don't really think there is a deeper meaning than that or the HZD story anything like that.
WordsintheWater
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Doesn't really need to be explained does it?
This one doesn't have to be explained either
Or this
That's just a couple that stood out to me, not gonna go through the impressions thread, too many pages.
StereoVsn
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I disagree on how writing was presented. It was more of a junior college essay vs what should come from a professional.
On the other hand I don't see why comparing the main character to Katniss or Lara or Germiona is a bad thing as those are strong female characters well known in the media.
texhnolyze
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I'd personally go with Lara Croft. There's even impressions from Gaffer(s) who mentioned it, in fact. That Horizon somewhat feels like RotTR.
onemanasylum
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Yeah but her character is garbage lol.
DriftingSpirit
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Oh, I can't wait for that 7 or 6 review to hit. It will be the best written review, or course. Not those honeymoon upper scores.
Nice that we have a poster who only dabbles in posting shit like this to rile people up and paint he opposition as some kind of hardcore alt-right "gamers" just because we think a review is badly written.
More_Badass
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But a junior college essay is probably better written than the average professional game review
StereoVsn
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Seriously? This is what you get from valid complaints about the review? They have nothing to do with the author being a woman. There are no negatives anyone is assigning to the main character being a woman and mostly everyone agrees that MC for Horizon is pretty cool.
The review is just bad and that's what people are critical of. Once Monday rolls around we will have a lot more material to draw upon for discussion. There is no victim here, stop with this BS.
Primethius
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No lies detected.
Jawbreaker
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Oh, but it is indeed a sentiment I've seen. ;]
If you aren't doing this, you have nothing to be offended about.
Triggerhappytel
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One of whom was from one of the least successful Pixar movies and the other was a side character from a couple of seasons of Game of Thrones, who I doubt is particularly well remembered outside of geek circles. I mean, both are great (I enjoyed Brave quite a lot - certainly more than critics seemed to), but if you're talking about a famous female archer from the last five years Katniss is the obvious choice.
Eh, Tokyo Mirage Sessions was of my favorite games last year and that was a 30 hour RPG. I actually love shorter, tighter experiences. However, I also played the hell out of Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth and that took me like 70 hours to beat. Buy either way, I'm looking forward to whay others have to say.
StereoVsn
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Well, yeah, I can't disagree but we can at least hope for better effort on the part of a professional.
texhnolyze
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The context is a well-known female archer.
gundamkyoukai
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This is the truth and for certain genres even more so .
Yeah, I hope we both know that there isn't a single story snippet in any of these gifs. If that would be the case Bayonetta would have the best story in history ever.
edit: And since the review focuses on story and character I don't think these gameplay gifs are relevant at all.
Oh so who is doing that in here? Why did you post that right after we were critical about the review if not to paint our posts as that?
I'd gladly take some examples from in here that prompted you to post it so that I know you're not stirring up shit in here or strawmanning vague comments.
It doesn't really matter anyway since she was just comparing the bow skills, not the personality. Any fictional character who happens to be good with a bow was a fair choice and she happened to pick katniss.
AkelisRain
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I have never finished an Open world RPG. Never liked Fall Out, Elder Scrolls, and Witcher 3 bored me. The only open world game I ever came close to finishing was Sleeping Dogs. However, I am interested in this game. I am worried I will end up wasting my money and shelving it.
Jawbreaker
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Because I like to be a snarky asshole sometimes, and I know /v/ is watching.
Peroroncino
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I'm inclined to agree.
btw. who in their right mind makes MC say generic things like: 'I don't believe in demons and I don't run when lives are at stake' in one sentence? I'm really worried about Alloy's character.
Which is a ridiculous simplification of a character, for this game (which none of you experienced) and all those other examples.
Let's not get excited for games if the character is a white male with a gun. So tired.
texhnolyze
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^ Sorry but I don't understand what you're talking about.
Please read the conversation from the beginning.
If you're so worried about money, why shelf instead of sell it?
Please read the conversation from the beginning.
If you're so worried about money, why shelf instead of sell it?
gundamkyoukai
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I mean is Lara really known for her archery skills.
Before the reboot it was all about her twin pistols .
I know she can use a bow in the reboot but is that her main weapon ?
For the new movie i guess they will go with archery because of marketing .
I am merely saying that it looks plenty epic. As for the story, we shall have to see. That is a given. But I am expecting to enjoy Aloy's journey based on what we are hearing. There is nothing that gives me pause or concern thus far.
Yep this is me. I still haven't finished TW3 even though I recognize it as an incredibly well made game. Same with GTA V, Skyrim, and other monstrous open-world games. I really enjoy them while playing, but after about the 10-15 hour mark I'm done with it. Part of it is a sense of being overwhelmed ("There's HOW MANY QUESTS here!?!?") and part of it is just not being able to dedicate that much time to a game. Like the writer of this article, I prefer games I can pick up, play a ten minute match or something before work, and then leave. It's why I'm such an addict to Overwatch and CoD/BF/TF games. Sure, cumulatively I probably play a lot more than 10-15 hours, but I can do it in such small bursts with usually one objective that it doesn't bother me. If I played TW3 or something similar in short bursts I'd be playing it for like 20 years lol.
I said damn.
DriftingSpirit
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Jawbreaker
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The game has a strong female who is an archer. Those characters are well-known. The goal of communication is to simplify concepts when possible so others can understand you as best as possible. This very clearly communicates the author's thoughts, even if they don't get into very specific details. Your average person who reads the review will instantly know what they mean.
texhnolyze
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