First Look at Henry Cavill as the Man of Steel

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TheOMan said:
Do not like the look at all. The hair, the eyes, they look off. Suit looks good, but could stand to be a touch brighter. I will see the movie, but right now, I am against.

You're going to get use to the man. That's one of the reasons they are releasing this early image. Get it out there and let people absorb and eventually accept the look.
 
lol dude has the face of Clive Owen. Superman is supposed to look genetically perfect with perfect facial structure, teeth, hair, body and all that stuff, thus is why Routh fit the part of Superman. Just that his acting skills were lacking, sadly. And Superman Returns was plain horrible and boring. Really horrible, comedic villains. Lex Luthor only wanted to get rich and have power. Just a horrible, generic villain.

Anyways, I'll give this guy a shot, although, he doesn't look the part, but he does have the size and body...actually looks a little too huge kind of like a football player. But still if he can act and be a likable Superman, then that should make up for his weaknesses.
 
This looks fantastic honestly, I'm honestly surprised.

When it comes to Snyder I love his visual style but I hate his overuse of slow motion. I didn't think he would have done a good job with Watchmen, but honestly when I look at Watchmen its a good movie and its only real failures was not adapting the comic fully, as in there's only one way to adapt the watchmen. But with Superman you can get creative while still being grounded with mythos, so you can make whatever story you'd like as long as you keep the basics you won't be thrown to the wolves.

Either way I'm excited.
 
brucewaynegretzky said:
The change in the ending was really focused on the current trent to make everything more "grounded." The costumes were an excellent point. And I think the MOST important thing was the emphasis on the action, whereas the comic really didn't have that. It was much more mellow, but the movie felt in needed to be more explosion-y. Overall color was ripped out of the movie in comparison to the book, in the same way current superhero movies do. There were also lots of cinematography tropes in the movie like slo-mo/speed up fighting sequences, jumping away from explosion, etc. The story didn't have to change much because it still fits for that purpose. The funny thing is that Watchmen was meant to satire lots of 80's comics, and superhero movies these days are drawing more and more from 80's comics for their source material.

First off, I like Snyder's Watchmen. It's easily the best thing he has done. Anyway, the initial idea behind the Watchmen comic was to see what superheroes would be like in a real world. Look at how seriously Moore took the Dr Manhattan plot alone. So saying Watchmen the movie is being critical of the grounding of superhero movies rings false. The story has to be grounded to contrast with the Superheroes living within that world. So, there is no reason to ridicule making things grounded.

Moore ultimately wanted it to be about "power and about the idea of the superman manifest within society." The film's attempt at dealing with that left a lot of tonal problems. It made the normal superheroes, like The Comedian, super powered. Making Manhattan not that special and the rest not that relatable. And ultimately the world less believable. They would've been better off deviating much more from the comic. Just look at that opening credits sequence. It was phenomenal.

It's hard to take the things you point out seriously because those are things Snyder had done before because he thought they were cool. Are 300 and Sucker Punch satires as well? He also seems to be doing it again with the new Superman, although it is too early to tell. We only have one production photo.
 
jett said:
I was joking above, and I really disagree here. Before Batman Begins nobody did that two-note thing. Zimmer pretty much started that trend, and I'd say the current Batman theme is instantly recognizable despite how much one part of it has been aped.
I'm not saying Zimmer is bad (or that the 2 note thing itself is bad) I loved Inception's OST but I just don't want to hear it with Superman. I really want a recognizable theme and I feel like the theme's in Dark Knight are only recognizable to it because it was such a popular movie, but the theme's don't feel like Batman the way Batman '89 one does. It has to have a melody that feels like the character the way John Williams ones do with Superman.

I'm open to hearing other theme's and if Zimmer can actually create something that has many different melodies and instruments etc. and feels like a rousing Superman then I'm open to it, but I don't want to hear something that can be put in any other action movie and fit in there as well.
 
VistraNorrez said:
First off, I like Snyder's Watchmen. It's easily the best thing he has done. Anyway, the initial idea behind the Watchmen comic was to see what superheroes would be like in a real world. Look at how seriously Moore took the Dr Manhattan plot alone. So saying Watchmen the movie is being critical of the grounding of superhero movies rings false. The story has to be grounded to contrast with the Superheroes living within that world. So, there is no reason to ridicule making things grounded.

Moore ultimately wanted it to be about "power and about the idea of the superman manifest within society." The film's attempt at dealing with that left a lot of tonal problems. It made the normal superheroes, like The Comedian, super powered. Making Manhattan not that special and the rest not that relatable. And ultimately the world less believable. They would've been better off deviating much more from the comic. Just look at that opening credits sequence. It was phenomenal.

It's hard to take the things you point out seriously because those are things Snyder had done before because he thought they were cool. Are 300 and Sucker Punch satires as well? He also seems to be doing it again with the new Superman, although it is too early to tell. We only have one production photo.

I think this is fair. The only thing I'll say is I don't think Watchmen is being "critical" of grounding things in reality, just trying to bring the audience's attention to it.
 
At first I liked the style, the suit and the vibe but he didn't look like Superman to me. After searching for pictures of the actor though I think it's likely just the angle of that shot.

Looks promising.
 
Angry Fork said:
I'm not saying Zimmer is bad I loved Inception's OST but I just don't want to hear it with Superman. I really want a recognizable theme and I feel like the theme's in Dark Knight are only recognizable to it because it was such a popular movie, but the theme's don't feel like Batman the way Batman '89 one does. It has to have a melody that feels like the character the way John Williams ones do with Superman.

Batman 89's theme fits Batman 89.

Molossus fits Nolan's Batman perfectly.

Everytime fanboys try to make silly "TDK with Batman 89 theme!" trailers, it takes away more from TDK than it adds.
 
The more I look at the picture, The more I really dig it.


okay Snyder, I'm into your superman movie, just don't fuck it up PLEASE man
 
DMczaf said:
Batman 89's theme fits Batman 89.

Molossus fits Nolan's Batman perfectly.

Everytime fanboys try to make silly "TDK with Batman 89 theme!" trailers, it takes away more from TDK than it adds.
I'm not saying TDK should've had '89 theme. It wouldn't of worked at all I agree there. The themes that Zimmer did do work with BB/TDK, but they still don't feel like Batman. Can you honestly listen to Batman '89 main theme, and then TDK and tell me TDK's sounds more like Batman? TDK sounds like an escalating high octane chase sequence theme, which is basically what they were used for. '89's theme I picture Batman in an alleyway ready to pounce on someone. You can feel him stalking prey in that music. That's the difference really.
 
Ketchup Boy said:
lol dude has the face of Clive Owen. Superman is supposed to look genetically perfect with perfect facial structure, teeth, hair, body and all that stuff, thus is why Routh fit the part of Superman. Just that his acting skills were lacking, sadly. And Superman Returns was plain horrible and boring. Really horrible, comedic villains. Lex Luthor only wanted to get rich and have power. Just a horrible, generic villain.

Anyways, I'll give this guy a shot, although, he doesn't look the part, but he does have the size and body...actually looks a little too huge kind of like a football player. But still if he can act and be a likable Superman, then that should make up for his weaknesses.

I definitely don't need perfection for Superman.

Hell, I wanted John Hamm to play the part of an older, established, Superman.
 
Scullibundo said:
Called it. Going to rip the shit out of Spider-boy.

Snyder going to serve you motherfuckers crow.

just like he did with Sucker Punch. BOOM HEADSHOT.

Zod will own the movie, the rest... not so much. ZOD the new Weaving confirmed!
 
Carbonox_Ratchet said:
Facially, he kinda looks off with the costume. However, I'm not against the overall appearance.

This. Not to mention I thought Brandon Routh did a pretty good job as the last Superman and wouldn't mind seeing him again.
 
Templar Wizard said:
Zod will own the movie, the rest... not so much. ZOD the new Weaving confirmed!
This will for sure be the highlight. I expect everything else to fall flat on it's face but the guy playing Zod is amazing and I would not be surprised if this is what people end up talking about once the movie comes out. I'm tired of Zod and don't like him being the villain here but I'm hoping it'll be fresh like Ledger's Joker was.
 
Routh had the charisma of my left nut, please. This worshiping of Returns is embarrassing. I'm not sold on the suit yet but i'm sold on Cavill. At least the guy looks like he could do some damage, unlike that twig Routh.
 
Triple Oceans said:
This. Not to mention I thought Brandon Routh did a pretty good job as the last Superman and wouldn't mind seeing him again.


Something about Brandon Routh didn't click for me and I think it has a lot to do with Brian Singer's own taste in men.

For instance, I worship Dan Savage, but he adores Aston Kutcher - good looking guy, but there's not much else there. No real character. The attraction is purely superficial.

The same for Routh - he was chosen purely for his looks by Singer, I suspect - and that lead to a choice that was more sexual than practical.

Pretty Boys. If Singer was attracted to more rugged men, I bet the casting would have been better for Returns.

It's the same reason why a lot of shitty actresses are chosen by straight directors.
 
Returns isn't that bad of a movie, IMO I still enjoy it and love it. I love it as much as I did when I saw it at Midnight all those years ago.


The plane scene is still one of the best scenes in that movie.
 
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Hair looks wrong. He needs the S-curl.
 
The Wise Old Man said:
Let's recape the only two worthwhile things about Superman Returns:

1) The opening credits with the John Williams theme
2) The casting of Routh as Supes

Everything else was pretty much terrible. Just a bad attempt to rehash the original movie.


Nah, there needs to be a 3 added to this list:

3) The airplane scene

That scene was done brilliantly, and the movie desperately needed more of that. Unfortunately, it was the climax of the film. :(
 
Angry Fork said:
I'm not saying TDK should've had '89 theme. It wouldn't of worked at all I agree there. The themes that Zimmer did do work with BB/TDK, but they still don't feel like Batman. Can you honestly listen to Batman '89 main theme, and then TDK and tell me TDK's sounds more like Batman? TDK sounds like an escalating high octane chase sequence theme, which is basically what they were used for. '89's theme I picture Batman in an alleyway ready to pounce on someone. You can feel him stalking prey in that music. That's the difference really.

89's theme is great for what Burton wanted to do, but it doesn't sound like Batman to me, it sounds like Burton. It's over the top and flamboyant, just like Elfman and Burton like it and doesn't fit every version of Batman. It would be terrible in Batman Arkham Asylum/City, and even worse in Batman Begins and The Dark Knight.
 
Tom_Cody said:
Eh, not loving it. I don't like the costume at all and the background seems to indicate syfy-level production values.

I love the shots of him as Clark though:

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These look good, and its the first time I feel he may be right for the role.
 
Mengy said:
Nah, there needs to be a 3 added to this list:

3) The airplane scene

That scene was done brilliantly, and the movie desperately needed more of that. Unfortunately, it was the climax of the film. :(

Yeah, you're right, I omitted that one. When he sets the plane down on the baseball field and the crowd goes apeshit, it was undoubtedly the best moment of the film. The rest of the time, we get treated to moody Superman spying on Lois from the bushes. TRULY UPLIFTING STUFF!

I really don't want to hear a new somber/dark Superman theme. No "bwaaaaaaa!" Hans Zimmer motives for me please. Williams' score fits the character perfectly. It's irreplacable. Much more than the Elfman score for Batman '89, which never would've worked for Nolan's Batman flicks.
 
The Wise Old Man said:
I'm pretty sure TAS sampled Elfman's theme (and built on the motifs).

Yeah but the love I have for TAS just makes me happier whenever I hear anything that reminds me of it. I just start smiling when I hear the Elfman music. I love BB but the score will never have that reaction for me.
 
Good to see people here that liked Superman Returns. The only problem I see with the pic is the suit and hair... oh, and that Snyder is directing it :/
 
I disagree heavily on the 89 theme being representative of what Batman is about. It's classic Elfman tripe and it sounds like it belongs in a circus act(meaning it's appropriate for Burtman movies).

Batman has never had a more heroic theme than this one.

DMczaf said:
89's theme is great for what Burton wanted to do, but it doesn't sound like Batman to me, it sounds like Burton. It's over the top and flamboyant, just like Elfman and Burton like it and doesn't fit every version of Batman. It would be terrible in Batman Arkham Asylum/City, and even worse in Batman Begins and The Dark Knight.

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Tom_Cody said:
Eh, not loving it. I don't like the costume at all and the background seems to indicate syfy-level production values.

I love the shots of him as Clark though:

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That's not him as Clark. That's him walking around San Diego during Comic Con.
 
I think after the "success" of the Green Lantern movie you can pretty much ensure WB will not go all sci-fi with Supes. They will try and keep him relatively grounded and fighting earth based enemies.. or enemies from Krypton like Zod.

I'd like to see Braniac, Mongol, Darkseid or evnen Doomsday.. but it's probably not going to happen.

Obviously Lex is a great baddie, but he's been done to death in every GD Supes movie to date... and as a real estate barron no less. Just use his damned post-Crisis identity.
 
Love it. Don't even care if he doesn't have red undies. He also looks like he could beat the shit out of Routh with that facial expression.

Only fanboy thing I want fixed is his hair. He had the S-curl going on at comic con... Wtf not have it in this shot.
 
1) Face looks weird, but that may just be the hair and lack of curl.

2) The shield is a bit too big. Don't tear me apart, I don't want the laughably small Returns shield, but it looks too big in this shot. A shield that big would work on a barrel-chested comic book character, but a real life actor it looks silly. Maybe a better shot will change my mind.

3) TEXTURE TEXTURE TEXTURE RAISED SEGMENTS SEAMS TEXTURE. I get that cloth and regular plain latex doesn't really work in live-action, but I hate Hollywood's need to make every super's suit look like they fell into an Unreal Engine tech demo. It's not a deal breaker, but seeing that raised shield with a texture over it looks silly, like someone glued a budget movie prop to his chest and it's just barely hanging on.
 
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