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First Madden 360 [RENDERED] shot!

op_ivy said:
no. its just fucking mock ups. dissapoitment all around. i dont care how many EA employee/industry vets chime in and say the final looks better. i feel like i was taken for a ride

*cry

:P
Fuckin EA whores!!!
 
Well, I guess it's possible that actual gameplay could look better than this, because this shot is really, really ordinary looking.
It should at least for now bring to Earth those people who think the Madden game will look same or better than that CGI commercial :P

Honestly though, it's just so coincidental that shortly before the final pic was released, IGN broke the news that these pictures AND the commercial are just "interpretations". If we'd known that from the start, would anyone even give a shit?
It says also that Tiburon poeple believe the final game will look even better. Which it might in some ways. On the other hand, I kinda doubt that they can pull of this flawless kind of antialiasing in 720p for example. I am also a bit sceptical of comments coming from EA saying this & that will look better than the promo CGI. I've heard the same talk in an interview with NFSU devs when the first game came out, and let's not fool ourselves, the NFSU wasn't that great looking compared to other games, much less any kind of FMV.
 
i guess we'll just have to see for ourselves tomorrow. That said im beyond hyped and i could care less what other people are crying about. this game will sell the systems out if it looks anything like the pics
 
I don't see why these shots can not be done on the Xbox 2. The first shot with the 2 guys on the ground however :lol yea right.
 
WTF is the difference really? They all look the same? Even the pic with Strahan sacking McNabb looks the same. It's just got motion-blur and grass in the frame. The models look the same, especially the heads. This is the friggin' next gen. Of course it's gonna look awesome. I don't see why EA would need to post renders when there is absolutely no competition in this market anymore. Madden is it. It will sell a half a gajillion copies on the 360 alone. Can we stop questioning each new release already? PEACE.
 
Yea,they're renders,but they're still basing this off the 360 specs they have I'm sure,so I don't see what the big deal is.If we can't get graphics like that or close to that then I don't even think we would be heading to new consoles yet...
 
WTF is the difference really? They all look the same? Even the pic with Strahan sacking McNabb looks the same. It's just got motion-blur and grass in the frame. The models look the same, especially the heads.
The first shot with two guys looks better. Just compare the quality of lighting, look at the temporal motion blur, the shading of the skin. Those things would become only more obvious in motion. I'm not saying there's no possibility it can be done on next gen hardware, but it looks better than shots that followed.
 
Gamestop is taking pre orders for Madden with free overnight shipping. Big deal huh? Well they're using these renders for the ads -_-
 
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Marconelly said:
The first shot with two guys looks better. Just compare the quality of lighting, look at the temporal motion blur, the shading of the skin. Those things would become only more obvious in motion. I'm not saying there's no possibility it can be done on next gen hardware, but it looks better than shots that followed.
I disagree, the only difference I see is the grass. The other shots have the blur and lighting.
 
op_ivy said:
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?! what is going on? AM I IN THE MATRIX? So we're still being fed renders? This shot is okay but the rim lighting around the coache's face to the right so it is clear is not indicative of any soft of realtime lighting

and can the snow already. particles can make anything look more impressive than they are.
 
The other shots have the blur and lighting.
Not the same kind :)

They have depth of field blur which is trivial compared to temporal motion blur in that first shot. There are also obvious misses in lighting quality compared to the lighting model used in that first shot. Pointless to argue anyways, EA people confirmed long time ago the first shot was just a CGI pre-render.
 
This commercial beats the hell out of nothing, but I wish they were more up front about it without IGN having to report the truth 4 days after the shots come out.
 
truffleshuffle83 said:
that first shot was on here moths ago, i definatly think it was a render of some sort, thes new ones are pretty believable
All of them are renders. They've already admitted that.
 
Why do you guys think EA would show these pics if the actual game couldn't look like that? It would be really bad press for them later if they release actual pics of the game, say at E3 and it looks worse. I believe they are not far enough into the development process to show actual gameplay screen. They probably have the core game running but with graphical glitches here and there, slow down problems, crashes, etc. The game will probably be game of show at E3 if it shows its real face. Let remember, EA is trying to build up hype, they will not do anything stupid to miss it up.
 
sportzhead said:
Why do you guys think EA would show these pics if the actual game couldn't look like that? It would be really bad press for them later if they release actual pics of the game, say at E3 and it looks worse. I believe they are not far enough into the development process to show actual gameplay screen. They probably have the core game running but with graphical glitches here and there, slow down problems, crashes, etc. The game will probably be game of show at E3 if it shows its real face. Let remember, EA is trying to build up hype, they will not do anything stupid to miss it up.

They do it all the time with their photoshopped screenshots and stupid mainstream gamers don't even notice..
 
They do it all the time with their photoshopped screenshots and stupid mainstream gamers don't even notice..

What?The Madden 06 screens for the current systems are jaggy to hell and back,the screens they release usually look alot worse than what it really looks like in motion.
 
u_neek said:
They do it all the time with their photoshopped screenshots and stupid mainstream gamers don't even notice..

Mainstream gamers are not the stupid ones. They buy and enjoy the game for what it is. They don't bitch about why the game looks different from what they saw, say 7 months ago.
 
You guys may not remember the PS One screenshots of that James Bond driving game from EA, but those were heavily Photoshopped (EGM did an expose on it, as I recall). The artist who did it? I work with him now. :lol
 
You are kidding right Duane? There's a big differernce in the jerseys alone. The way they're rendered and the way the jerseys deformed in the first render.
 
sportzhead said:
Mainstream gamers are not the stupid ones. They buy and enjoy the game for what it is. They don't bitch about why the game looks different from what they saw, say 7 months ago.
How true!

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The only difference I see is they are showing a grass closeup and the skin is shinier in the latest shot. The motion blur is present in the original but there is no movement so there wouldn't be motion blur in the latest screen.
 
Do you still work at EA bish? Do you think you can kinda influence the direction their NHL series is headed? :p

And to keep this on topic...I'll reiterate that we saw this in the early DC US ads on TV, where CG was used, using approximate game models to represent the characters. There is a big difference between that situation and this one, and that is that the lighting done in CG can mostly be done on current hardware, where the DC couldn't.

Another issue I want to bring up is that is there any indication that this Saturday they'll be showing real time footage of the game? I'm sure E3 will have it...but this Saturday could be a whole other issue.

Plus, I do wonder if this title will be shown at the MTV unveiling. It would be what I consider a killer app...but is EA ready to show the game before E3?

Mainstream gamers are not the stupid ones. They buy and enjoy the game for what it is. They don't bitch about why the game looks different from what they saw, say 7 months ago.

And mainstream gamers buy game like The Matrix.
 
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Fight for Freeform said:
Do you still work at EA bish? Do you think you can kinda influence the direction their NHL series is headed? :p
Fuck no. If I could, you think they would have released those last two steaming turds in a box ? ESPN NHL 2K5 fo' life!
 
Fight for Freeform said:
Another issue I want to bring up is that is there any indication that this Saturday they'll be showing real time footage of the game? I'm sure E3 will have it...but this Saturday could be a whole other issue.

IGN said:
It turns out that the commercial and all visuals released are actually an artist's interpretation of what Madden could look like on the Next-Gen systems.
So no, the commercial is not real-time, and not even running on any actual next-gen system.
 
human5892 said:
So no, the commercial is not real-time, and not even running on any actual next-gen system.

well..

let's see:

spend big to lock down franchise/genre
spend big to make faked cg movies for advetising
sell new game on a new console with no installed base

A) just how much money do you think the game will cost when they do sell it?
B) how involved do you think MS is in this shenanigans / marketing blitz?
 
Razoric said:
This is for Madden 2006 am I correct?

Then why does Gamespot, on their front page, link to this:
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/sports/..._6122758.html?tag=boxcar_all_preview_headline

I don't believe Maddon 2006 is even coming to PS3 yet they link it on the front page and not Xbox 360 (a system it is coming too)? How can anyone not say that worthless website is beyond biased. First all those lowballing reviews, now this.

Lame Gamespot, Lame.
I don't get it... Why is Gamespot misrepresenting that footage?
 
Teddman said:
I don't get it... Why is Gamespot misrepresenting that footage?

Hell yeah what's the other guy on to?

Where does it say it's an Xbox 360 game? On EA site? Show me some proof before launching an anti-Sony, anti-GameSpot attack.

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PS3/ Xbox 360/ Revolution (mayhap)
 
I think it's that most people don't expect PS3 to be released here before summer 2006 (march/april in Japan, summer in US), and by then it would be too late for Madden 2006, I guess? I thought that was the reason PSP didn't get the madden game at launch at least. Madden obviously won't make much sense at the Japanese launch either.
 
Odnetnin said:
well..

let's see:

spend big to lock down franchise/genre
spend big to make faked cg movies for advetising
sell new game on a new console with no installed base

A) just how much money do you think the game will cost when they do sell it?
B) how involved do you think MS is in this shenanigans / marketing blitz?
Hmm?
 
Razoric said:

"Madden NFL 06 2005 Draft Commercial Preview - Madden NFL 06 Previews for Playstation 3"

And? It's a PS3 hub, title's correct.

There should be the very same article with a different title in the 360 hub.

"Madden NFL 06 2005 Draft Commercial Preview - Madden NFL 06 Previews for Xbox 360"

...

Well they don't have the 360 hub yet it seems. I tried 360/ xbox360/ xbox2/ xenon and nothing worked.
 
But Madden 06 is not coming out for the PS3. At all.

Gamespot surely is aware of that, as is anyone following videogames... The implication is that it's almost as if Gamespot is trying to misdirect the hype that will be generated by Saturday's commercial into the PS3 camp.

I agree that sounds like a conspiracy theory, but the context in which they're framing this news on the site is odd.
Borys said:
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Well they don't have the 360 hub yet it seems. I tried 360/ xbox360/ xbox2/ xenon and nothing worked.
No 360 hub yet, and it's coming out sooner than the PS3, with details far more concrete at this point in time... Hmm.
 
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