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First shots of Peter Jackson's King Kong

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Not sure why there's so much hate for Cabin Fever. I wouldn't call it a masterpiece, but I thought it was a refreshing departure from the generic slasher flicks and overused horror franchise sequels. It had a very campy feel to it and, if you didn't take it seriously, was really enjoyable.

That being said...I also loved "Freddy Got Fingered"...
 

ManaByte

Gold Member
AstroLad said:
Geez, looks like someone wants this movie to fail.

As for me, I don't give a shit, but Jack Black plays a mean PGR2 I'm told.

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whytemyke

Honorary Canadian.
Somehow reading an article about a movie in production and liking it translates into a deserved permanent injury or death to you. This arguement went from "I don't think it looks too great," to "Shoot everyone who likes the idea of it."

Yeah. Because it's not like I wrote "Serious sarcasm implied" after it or anything. So really, this argument went from a common euphemism used to portray disdain to said euphemism being taken seriously so as to paint me as some kind of maniacal serial killer. Hm.

And why do you keep trying to argue that critical acclaim is only possible after something else has been acclaimed? And why are you linking drawing power to critical acclaim? Your arguments are all over the place.

The only reason I linked the two is because you equated the success of films such as Troy, etc, at the box office worldwide with critical success. I merely stipulated the difference to make sure that we were on the same page, and that this probably will have boxoffice success. Our only disagreement is over whether it will have critical success.

Let's not really argue on the basis of how well our arguments are put together, as yours is chock full of logical fallacies, with proctor hoc bullshit all over it. We both do it, but being as you're not really on a higher ground than me in this instance, you really shouldn't go about critiquing the way I'm arguing. Kettle; Pot; black.

1. You said that "King Kong + the guy that did LOTR = huge box office and probable critical acclaim, whether deserved or not."

Ok, fine. If that's your opinion, that's just fine. My opinion is just the opposite-- King Kong + Peter Jackson doesn't necessarily = critical acclaim.

2. You also said: "All but two of her recent films have had fresh ratings at Rotten Tomatoes". This doesn't really mean anything, as the only movie she was singled out in was 21 Grams and The Ring... Mulholland Dr., too, if we're going to be picky. You're saying that because those movies are acclaimed, then she must be, too, and this isn't the case. Maybe she just chose good movies to do. Or maybe she really did make those movies good. The simple problem is, though, that there's no way to tell. Thus we're forced to go by movies she was popularly and publically lauded for, which are the two or three aforementioned films.
 

whytemyke

Honorary Canadian.
Before this gets needlessly dragged out anymore, let me say a few things. I was wrong, obviously (and embarrassingly) about the actors in it. I don't WANT the movie to fail, by any means, either... as a matter of fact I hope it's completely AWESOME (I've seen so many bad movies in the past couple years, I'm ready for a string of good ones). I'm not denying the fact that Jackson is capable of making great work, either. My basic point in being so anal about this is that just because the movie looks to be awesome, it doesn't mean it will be awesome. Anyone who's familiar with the Matrix series knows that.
 

Socreges

Banned
My basic point in being so anal about this is that just because the movie looks to be awesome, it doesn't mean it will be awesome.
And how many posts did it take for you to reduce your ignorance, arrogance, etc to such an obvious, obvious statement? Jesus...
 
whytemyke said:
My basic point in being so anal about this is that just because the movie looks to be awesome, it doesn't mean it will be awesome. Anyone who's familiar with the Matrix series knows that.
So basically no one's allowed to anticipate or project probably success for any movie that comes out ever from now on.

Also, which, in your opinion, cast features better drawing power;

Adrien Brody, Naomi Watts, Jack Black

or

Sam Neil, Laura Dern, Jeff Goldblum

?
 
so we're all idiots for thinking this movie is gonna be good and make a lot of money, but you're some kind of misunderstood genius because you are in the .000001% minority of people who think it will bomb? C'mon, even if i wasn't anticipating this movie...its a Peter Jackson flick, its coming out in December...its gonna be a license to print money for crissakes.
 

Willco

Hollywood Square
What the fuck. It's King Kong. There shouldn't be two pages worth of hate in this thread.

It's King-Fuckin'-Kong.

Respect, bitches.
 

sprsk

force push the doodoo rock
naomi watts is great.

im not a peter jackson fan but i like a good giant monster movie.
 

hiryu

Member
Not to mention she is an excellent actress. Who gives a flying fuck what their box office draw is like as long as the people can act.
 
Godzilla makes King Kong his bitch.

Peter Jackson is going to have to work really hard to impress this King Kong hater. OMG! A giant ape. . . weak!

The potential for a modern dinosaur versus giganto-ape fight is pretty good, but I'm hard pressed to buy a giant ape beating a T-Rex. King Kong ain't got shit on Denzel Washington!

Now Godzilla Final Wars, I can't wait for that giant monster movie.

Pancakes! Pancakes!
 

Belfast

Member
whytemyke said:
Hahahaha, someone insults jackson and everyone gets angry? Hahaha. Well, I know his name was tied to Cabin Fever, and being that I saw it bombing horribly at rottentomatoes, and the few friends who saw it said it was godawful, I steered clear.

Oh well, I guess you all will just have to choke on the fact that I think this film is going to bomb. After other crap that's been hyped-- Van Helsing, Troy, Alexander, Day after Tomorrow, etc-- I'll believe that this film is good when I either see it myself or go to RT and see that it's above an 80 percent.


They're getting mad because you don't have a freakin' clue what you're talking about, Peter Jackson or otherwise. You've yet to get one fact straight in this entire thread.
 

Tenguman

Member
The Take Out Bandit said:
I'm hard pressed to buy a giant ape beating a T-Rex. King Kong ain't got shit on Denzel Washington!

Pfft! A giant ape the size of a dinosaur can EASILY take down a T-Rex. Why? APES GOT HANDS. T-Rex can only strike with his mouth. He can't grab...at most he can kick (and probably fall doing so). He can't climb, he can't do anything but chomp with his mouth. Fucking King-Kong can climb, grab a tree and use it as bat, hell he can just grab T-Rex's head and hold it there while he kicks him with his ape-feet. T-Rex lunges? King-Kong jumps too!
 

demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
Yeah seriously. Have you ever seen a gorilla in action? Those things are fucking NASTY. Now imagine one 90 feet (or whatever) tall. T-Rexes were slow as hell, and they have useless midget hands.
 

COCKLES

being watched
Most un-neccesary remake of all time but....

....I'll give Jackson his dues if he includes giant killer spiders in it. Ie: ones that kill people and not bumble around ineptly like the ROTK one.
 

demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
The Take Out Bandit said:
NO SALE!

Since we're dealing with complete fantasy material here, dinosaurs > giant apes!

T-Rex will just bite that big dumb monkey's hands off - OWNED!
Hell no.

kingkong.jpg
 
Hell yes.

Unfortunately this is King Kong's big dumb movie, so we won't get to see the super awesome dinosaur ass beating of epic proportions I'd have to pack Kleenex to watch.

Oh well.

One for Godzilla Final Wars plz! ^_^
 

bob_arctor

Tough_Smooth
hiryu said:
Not to mention she is an excellent actress. Who gives a flying fuck what their box office draw is like as long as the people can act.
poster2.jpg

2 words: Audition Scene

Naomi Watts is the new Nicole Kidman, except way hotter.
 

Loki

Count of Concision
The Take Out Bandit said:
Godzilla makes King Kong his bitch.

Peter Jackson is going to have to work really hard to impress this King Kong hater. OMG! A giant ape. . . weak!

The potential for a modern dinosaur versus giganto-ape fight is pretty good, but I'm hard pressed to buy a giant ape beating a T-Rex. King Kong ain't got shit on Denzel Washington!

Now Godzilla Final Wars, I can't wait for that giant monster movie.

Pancakes! Pancakes!

As pointed out, an ape that size would DESTROY a T-Rex. Do you have any idea how strong normal apes are? Never mind the mobility advantages afforded them due to their body structure and the longer and more mobile appendages. T-Rex owned! :D
 

Shinobi

Member
Ned Flanders said:
Roy. Roy Scheider. Also of "Blue Thunder" fame (an old school fav of mine).

Ah right...thanks for the correction. Jaws is my favourite movie ever along with Raiders, so I should know this shit. I haven't seen Blue Thunder in years...hopefully someone shows it on TV.




whytemyke said:
Before this gets needlessly dragged out anymore, let me say a few things. I was wrong, obviously (and embarrassingly) about the actors in it. I don't WANT the movie to fail, by any means, either... as a matter of fact I hope it's completely AWESOME (I've seen so many bad movies in the past couple years, I'm ready for a string of good ones). I'm not denying the fact that Jackson is capable of making great work, either. My basic point in being so anal about this is that just because the movie looks to be awesome, it doesn't mean it will be awesome. Anyone who's familiar with the Matrix series knows that.

That goes without saying...won't stop people from getting hyped up over a movie though (or a game, car, album or whatever). I'm hyped up beyond reason for Batman Begins, but if it sucks then it sucks...no great loss, just great disappointment. If people wanna get excited about King Kong or any other movie based on nothing but the participants involved, I don't see a problem with it.

BTW, it works in reverse...if you're trying to say that people shouldn't be positive about a movie in production, then they shouldn't be negative about it either. Can't have it both ways.




Spectral Glider said:
....wait, take that back, the Psycho remake was the most un-neccesary remake of all time.

:lol Without a doubt...not even Julianne Moore could save it.




demon said:

:lol :lol :lol

You do NOT want to fuck with an angry ape. The scariest animal I've ever seen in person was a group of chimpanzees at the London Zoo when I was a kid. These damn things kept hurtling themselves into the glass window at speed, some seven or eight feet high. It was absolutely frightening...if they'd been able to make a crack in that window, anyone in that vinicity was dead meat. A gorilla of Kong's size would destroy anything on the face of the earth. Hell, a chimpanzee of that size would destroy anything on the face of the earth.

And yeah, I'd hit Naomi Watts...very attractive woman, if a shade too thin.
 
Oh, so now we're grasping at specious - "I've seen it" straws?

HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A T-REX IN PERSON AND LIVED TO TELL THE TALE?!

I think not. :p

Dinosaurs > Apes, suck it!
 
The Take Out Bandit said:
HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A T-REX IN PERSON AND LIVED TO TELL THE TALE?!

I think not.
Do you know why we haven't seen any of them? Because they're all dead. They all died because they're god damn stubby armed pussies. As for apes? They're still alive. Because King Kong would kick that dinosaur's ass. And it will. It could give it a noogie and all the T-rex could do would flail it's arms around like little windmills.
 

levious

That throwing stick stunt of yours has boomeranged on us.
The Take Out Bandit said:
Dinosaurs > Apes, suck it!

But not if they're the same size... that's a key point.

And T-Rex was just a stupid scavenger, does that keep you up at night?
 
Do you know why we haven't seen any of them? Because they're all dead.

It took an act of cosmic cataclysm to destroy the thunderlizards! Oh ho ho ho - rest assured, a monkey will be the undoing of all the monkeys if Bush continues to get his way. :p

And T-Rex was just a stupid scavenger, does that keep you up at night?

Not really, and this is only incidental discourse for my own amusement. I'm a long time anti-semit. . . errr, King-Kong person. Jane Goodall hates me personally.

My favorite dinosaur of all time is an herbivore, so you're not going to get much logic out of me. I'm just going on what looks cooler and lemme tell you gigantic reptiles > gigantic apes any day of the week.

Now you want to get nerd-tastic throw down, Godzilla vs. King-Kong. But that's totally unfair as the King of All Monsters would roast that oversized weenie.

Radioactive Breath vs. Giant Monkey Jerking Off. . . :X
 

levious

That throwing stick stunt of yours has boomeranged on us.
Godzilla's a different story... unless he's stupid enough to knock King Kong into an electrical plant... then it's on!
 

levious

That throwing stick stunt of yours has boomeranged on us.
Yet another odd feature of this film is the relationship between the two monsters and electricity. We are informed in this movie that Godzilla is afraid of electricity, and he won't cross even modest power lines. Compare this to Godzilla's reaction to the power line defense that was used to protect Tokyo in the original Godzilla. King Kong has also gained some sort of affinity for electricity, and lighting makes him stronger. The reasoning behind this seems to be that King Kong really was sort of a god back on his island. King Kong's ability to manipulate electricity also serves to help even up the odds between the two monsters when they fight, because otherwise Kong has no way to counter Godzilla's atomic ray.

http://www.stomptokyo.com/movies/king-kong-vs-godzilla.html

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Weak.

Well, hopefully Peter Jackson can make this worth watching. Although waiting three years for the conclusion of Lord of the Rings was a bit of a let down. Though, that has more to do with bad source material than Jackson himself.

Is it too much to hope that he'll direct one more over the top gorefest before he gets too much clout in Hollywood? :/

Heck, I liked Congo. Not so much that I'd buy it. Lasers and crazy albino apes = good fun.
 
An ape the size of a T-rex would stomp the snot out of the T-rex.

As for Kong vs. Godzilla, forget that cornball movie and the cornball electricity. Kong is 30 feet tall, Godzilla is about 150 feet tall. The movie should have been all of 2 mintues long. Godzy wouldn't even have to waste any of his breath, one well placed foot and it's over.
 

jett

D-Member
This film looks ridiculous. Is it going to be completely serious or campy shit? I hope it bombs, the world needs to realize that Peter Jackson is a worthless director.
 

Willco

Hollywood Square
jett said:
This film looks ridiculous. Is it going to be completely serious or campy shit? I hope it bombs, the world needs to realize that Peter Jackson is a worthless director.

:lol
 

jett

D-Member
Willco said:

It is true. He got lucky with FOTR. TTT and ROTK have some of the most insanely boring battle sequences ever "shot". And The Frighteners is a big, nice, piece of shit.
 

Willco

Hollywood Square
jett said:
It is true. He got lucky with FOTR. TTT and ROTK have some of the most insanely boring battle sequences ever "shot". And The Frighteners is a big, nice, piece of shit.

I guess those are the only four movies he's ever directed!
 

Loki

Count of Concision
Mike Works said:
Do you know why we haven't seen any of them? Because they're all dead. They all died because they're god damn stubby armed pussies. As for apes? They're still alive. Because King Kong would kick that dinosaur's ass. And it will. It could give it a noogie and all the T-rex could do would flail it's arms around like little windmills.

:lol
 

Socreges

Banned
The Take Out Bandit said:
It took an act of cosmic cataclysm to destroy the thunderlizards!
A new theory is emerging that it was actually a virus. They couldn't develop an immunity to it. Viruses are nothing. They're like... microscopic. I mean, those pussy dinosaurs died from something that you can't even SEE, let alone put up a decent fight.

King Kong is so bad-ass that not only has he never been extinct, but he's never even existed. How are you supposed to fuck with that? You can't. You can't fuck with that.
 
Socreges said:
King Kong is so bad-ass that not only has he never been extinct, but he's never even existed. How are you supposed to fuck with that? You can't. You can't fuck with that.
And if they tried? They'd get an STD. And die like pussies.

Vaginasaurus.
 

DaMan121

Member
In all seriousness, I dont see how this is going to be um...a "serious" movie at all. Im not saying Jackson cant do drama, Heavenly Creatures is great, and some moments in LOTR is heart-felt (imo alot of it is drowned out with soppy melo-drama), but its about a giant ape with a giant bonner for a blonde gall.. I just hope it doesnt suffer from the "bringing-back-old-movie-monster" movies ala Frankstein (URGH!), Wolf (URGH!), Dracula (SNOOOZE! and URGH!). Now if this was a camp spallter fest like BrainDead / BadTaste, THEN you would be talking.
 
Jack Black played very straight roles up until High Fidelity. Tony Scott put him in many of his films in minor roles. I think the computer hacker role in Enemy of the State was his biggest up to that point.

IMDB is your friend.
 

Drozmight

Member
If Sam Raimi can turn Spiderman into one of the best movies ever made, PJ (or Pjubbles as his friends call him) can sure as hell turn King King into a great movie. That being said, I want him to do sometihng original next time.
 

ManaByte

Gold Member
Drozmight said:
That being said, I want him to do sometihng original next time.

He wants to do a WWI epic (he's a HUGE WWI buff), but there's Kong and The Hobbit to do first.
 
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