Did somebody say...
Humberto Ramos?
every now and then he'll draw something where I understand what he's going for and it'll look cool
then there's the other 99% of his work where I'm just like....really?
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First Spider-Man: Homecoming reactions
- Thread starter Biggest-Geek-Ever
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every now and then he'll draw something where I understand what he's going for and it'll look cool
then there's the other 99% of his work where I'm just like....really?
Biggest-Geek-Ever
Member
Did somebody say...
Humberto Ramos?
The face of a man who just came back to life
The Real Napsta
Member
What's thatNo matter what, Homecoming is just a bump in the road to the bigger picture:
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Cut what shit?
What are you even talking about.
all of the classic Spidey suits are "homemade" suits. Because Peter Parker made them. Because making a Spidey suit isn't really out of bounds. Not for normal people, not for poor people, and not for boy geniuses with access to the materials Peter Parker has access to.
Hell, this movie shows that his high school is kitted out with enough shit (that he uses to make stuff in) that the idea it's somehow far-fetched or ridiculous for him to make the suit we're seeing him wear in Civil War and this movie doesn't make any sense.
Spidey looks like SPIDEY in this universe because Tony Stark made him look that way.
MisterHero
Super Member
No. Comics take shit too far sometimes. Let it goNo matter what, Homecoming is just a bump in the road to the bigger picture:
George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
I enjoyed the run but I never want an adaptation.No matter what, Homecoming is just a bump in the road to the bigger picture:
waitwaitwaitwaitwait
That's what you consider being taken too far in comics?
That's TAME.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Let 'em know about the godawful trash that is the Iron Spider, Toa.
(because it's probably coming sooner rather than later)
(because it's probably coming sooner rather than later)
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
No matter what, Homecoming is just a bump in the road to the bigger picture:
Yes, but only if it's actually Alfred Molina in this skintight suit.
SmackAttack
Member
HAHAHAHA
The face of a man who just came back to life
now that's a bad suit by stark
MugiwaraCole
Member
Spidey looked Spidey in this universe before Tony arrived on his doorstep. You show that homemade suit to anybody without context and they'll tell you that's Spider-Man.
You don't credit the creation of the suit to the guy who dresses up the original template of the thing. Peter created that look. Not Tony. This is just a universe where Tony gets to him before he upgrades the damn thing himself.
I pray we avoid the Iron Spider. Don't let that thing be anything more than a gag/Easter egg. Ugh.
we don't know anything for certain yet!
stop why are you doing this
Biggest-Geek-Ever
Member
Stop.
Stop.Did somebody say...
Humberto Ramos?
I SAID STOP
The face of a man who just came back to life
George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
Please no
MugiwaraCole
Member
If I must...
(Coming to Infinity Wars part 2!)
It'd be a really awesome joke though. Tony tries to get Peter to wear it and not even Peter think it's appropriate lol
Bobby Roberts
Banned
No he didn't. Because when you ask someone "what's Spidey look like"
They don't say this:
Or this
You're talking about "templates" like that means anything. And it doesn't. I'm crediting Tony Stark with what Spider-Man looks like because in this universe, Spider-Man looks like Spider-Man because Tony Stark gave him his costume.
Unless you're going to try and make the argument that Spider-Man's costume is really just the combination of red and blue colors + a spider, combined with very big goggles incorporated somewhere around the head. But I think that's a pretty bad argument.
Tony Stark created almost everything that is identifiable about Spider-Man as iconography in this universe. Not Peter. Tony.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
Member
This is not the worst conceivable Iron Man esque suit Spidey could wearIf I must...
(Coming to Infinity Wars part 2!)
Every now and then you've gotta remind people of who the GOAT is.
The Real Napsta
Member
You guys don't like Iron Spider? I think it looks badass.
George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
I'm sorry, guys. Have some good Spidey art to heal your eyes and souls.
Superior did the metal legs better.
Choose the worst pic possible to suit your narrative brehs
No he didn't. Because when you ask someone "what's Spidey look like"
They don't say this:
Or this
You're talking about "templates" like that means anything. And it doesn't. I'm crediting Tony Stark with what Spider-Man looks like because in this universe, Spider-Man looks like Spider-Man because Tony Stark gave him his costume.
Unless you're going to try and make the argument that Spider-Man's costume is really just the combination of red and blue colors + a spider, combined with very big goggles incorporated somewhere around the head. But I think that's a pretty bad argument.
Tony Stark created almost everything that is identifiable about Spider-Man as iconography in this universe. Not Peter. Tony.
Bobby was goddamn right.
Spider Man Blue <3
MugiwaraCole
Member
No he didn't. Because when you ask someone "what's Spidey look like"
They don't say this:
Or this
You're talking about "templates" like that means anything. And it doesn't. I'm crediting Tony Stark with what Spider-Man looks like because in this universe, Spider-Man looks like Spider-Man because Tony Stark gave him his costume.
Unless you're going to try and make the argument that Spider-Man's costume is really just the combination of red and blue colors + a spider, combined with very big goggles incorporated somewhere around the head. But I think that's a pretty bad argument.
Tony Stark created almost everything that is identifiable about Spider-Man as iconography in this universe. Not Peter. Tony.
So you're crediting him with creating this suit while ignoring the inspiration he took from Peter Parker's own design? That's what you're doing here? Lol.
Never mind the fact that both those homemade suits also look like Spider-Man. As do most of the various alternate Spidey suits.
broncobuster
Banned
I'll start out by saying: you're right. Yes. But at the same time, had Peter shown up with the same suit that he made himself, we'd have folks asking how he made it, like they did with the last two Spidey origins. Had Peter shown up with his homemade hoodie suit, folks would be complaining about how it didn't look right, like what's happening with JL Flash wearing a cobbled together suit. Basically, people into comics and movies and comic movies like to nitpick. Although, maybe if Peter's introduction wasn't so rushed in Civil War it could've hit a better balance.
The face of a man who just came back to life
That was the moment i stopped reading Spidey.
Fancyarcher
Member
Did somebody say...
Humberto Ramos?
Watch me fly.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Using "lol" as punctuation ain't helping you, Mug.
Peter didn't create the Spider-Man costume. Tony did. I don't know how you can argue differently.
Inspiration != creation. This is fairly obvious. The idea that Peter gets the credit for that costume design because he wore a red hoodie and goggles doesn't make any sense. The gulf between the two actual looks is so far that even if you argue (and you easily can) that Tony used that cam footage as a starting point for his costume design, the actual design itself is so wildly different that there's no way you could give Peter credit for it.
have you seen Homecoming yet?
it is possible Peter confirms he designed the suit and had Tony manufacture it
its possible you guys
MugiwaraCole
Member
So you can't give Peter credit for the webbing and the lenses, so, the Spidey look isn't something he created? Lol.
That ain't punctuation. That's just me laughing at you. But I'm sure you'll be aight.
Eh, I doubt it. Possible. But not likely given the footage we've seen. He really does seem surprised with what Tony hands him.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
you sound dumb right now, Mug.
And I'd argue that's a dumb fuckin' question, and people asking it should be answered with "why do you care and what does it matter."
Grant Morrison, tires on the batmobile, etc. etc.
Again: The idea a kid genius can't gussy up a leotard real pretty in his spare time doesn't make any fucking sense when I can hit a comic-convention and see someone pounding down artists alley in a goddamn film accurate POWER LOADER made out of cardboard boxes.
broncobuster
Banned
Again, you're right here.
But 15 years later we're getting... http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1396203
George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
As Alienous (I think it was you) said earlier, this could all have been fixed with a simple additional line in Civil War. Have Tony invite Peter to make a new suit after he's recruited.
MugiwaraCole
Member
I'd argue you sound even stupider, but *shrugs*
Though I do agree that people saying Peter couldn't possibly make that suit don't actually know what the fuck they're talking about. Nigga manufactured the webbing, he's got the know how and tools to make a proper suit. And likely would have, this is just an iteration that Tony got to first.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
There's always gonna be some slackjawed yokel who needs to have it explained to them how the Coyote can look down and see he's not standing on a cliff before he pulls a placard with the word "yipes" on it from his butthole and lets gravity claim him.
That doesn't mean you need to carve time out of your narrative to build explanations into the movie for Cletus' confused ass.
He'll make it.